Hayabusa MC / Colors

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OB_Dirty Pete

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POINT OF ORDER: I am a 30 year member of a now loosely knit MC called the Immortals MC. I am also co-founder and honorary chairman of the IMC. Is it OK for an MC member to belong to another MC, virtual or not? I don't mind Immortals being members of ice racing clubs, vintage clubs, etc, but those aren't MCs. I know I wouldn't want an Immortal to also be an active member of the Satan's Choice or the Outlaws. Isn't there a colors conflict here? Anyone else an MC member? Got an opinion?

Maybe it's OK because it's virtual.

NB: In Canada, or in Ontario at least, the courts have upheld the special right of police to detain anyone wearing colours, riding or not, and photograph them and ask many questions that cops are not permitted ask routine pullovers. This is because of special organized crime legislation.

"Colors" means any patch with MC on it. When the cops see MC on a guy around here, they go ballistic.

Is this the case anywhere else, especially in the States?

Maybe we should rethink the MC part of this.

We can still have a mean looking patch without MC on it.
 
Good thing you don't have a AMA patch Dirty Pete.

So what you are saying is that Dudly Doo Right will bust my balls for wearing an AMA patch.

"Hells Falcons" salutes you, the internet fraternal order of Hell Angels who have gone Japanese.
 
Help me out here fellow Bussaphiles,
Were living a dream. We own the fastest bikes ever made, we have the best web board,
our lives have been collectively enhanced and
focused through our association with Bussa',
Now its time to "show some class". Its time for our own colors, MC style jackets with "Hayabusa ORG" proudly embroidered on the back "MC Patch" style. Were bad. Lets show it.
ducmanic
Los Angeles

[This message has been edited by ducmanic (edited 30 August 1999).]
 
Excellent idea Ducmanic.

A jacket might be a bit rich, and you'd have a hard time choosing a jacket style that suited everyone. How about making a high quality, full-color, 4"- 6" wide, computer-embroidered sewable patch that we could put wherever we wanted...on our riding leathers or a jacket we already own.

Just a guess but I think we could have 25 made up for $15 a unit.

What graphic do you see? The one at the top left of this page? We could do it in 2 versions, copper bike and black bike. Big Dog can you e-mail the original art file on that graphic?

But here's the big problem Ducmanic. What about the initiation to qualify to get a Hayabusa MC patch? How are we gonna roll guys in mud and hang them upside down by their legs from trees and piss all over their jeans and do wheelies on them then have them do 30 rotations in a commercial laundry drier?

There are definite limitations to being a virtual motorcycle gang.



[This message has been edited by Dirty Pete (edited 29 August 1999).]
 
Pete,
Your right, there are issues. Proof of
registration maybe. I was thinking of a patch for sew on, like you explained. I like the Levi style jacket that can quickly be put on over leathers, whatever. Personal preference. The graphics need to be worked out. I want it to say MC. I just threw this out for general discussion. What ever the group consensus is will be fine for me.

ducmanic
Los Angeles
 
You crazy bastards.

Pak-a-loons fer sher.

I don't wear MC stuff around my own neighborhood, and I'm not going to start.

My offer still stands to design the patch, and I'm willing do it and make it available with and without MC on it.

Unless, of course, the MC guys don't want non-MC patches riding around out there.

Then you make your own patch.
 
TeamHayabusa: You said "(MC) Without it, it's just another patch."

A Suggestion from Me to TeamHayabusa and KawAbuser: To call yourself an MC, you've got to BE an MC.

Otherwise, you're just another association like the AMA.

You wannabe Hell's Angels who have gone Japanese?

Then call yourself Yakuza.

Forgive me and banish me from this site forever, but you two sound pretty naive.
 
Uh-
This is exactly the type of precedent setting discussion i was hoping to start. The fast approaching need to merge Cyber etiquette with established long standing precedent regarding inter club policy. There is nothing virtual about a group of several hundred people riding around on nine second bikes blowing away everything on the road. Think globally, act locally.
Definitely sew on, muti-piece, Hayabusa ORG arched at the top, sew on Falcon wings
embracing MC, maybe a bird scull. Simple. Not to gaudy.
Thank you Pete for your mature and knowledgeable input. A voice of reason to be
sure. LA is Red Machine / Vets country. I don't know where or how sanctioned
chapter policy is established. There is a thin line of etiquette here. Lets do this right.

ducmanic
Los Angeles
 
I like the falcon wings idea as the graphic basis. Very traditional.

I see the wings being blurred, maybe asymetrical as if in a prey-pursuing maneuovre, and in the climbing mode as opposed to a dive.

Bird skull's nice, too, Ducmanic.

We still have to figure out the MC part.

I propose that members be able to order it with or without MC, so they can deal with their local situation as they see fit.

Those who buy with MC on theirs have to be prepared go to war for each other or have their patches laughed at.

Those who buy with no MC are association members only, like the AMA.
 
If we're going to go MC style,then the graphic symbol of this website is a bit sucky. Great for a mainstream website, sucky for a motorcycle club.

I think it would OK to have a mean looking patch, modeled on Hell's Angel's type patches, but with a bit of a POWER twist, as befits the Busa.

The words could be HAYABUSA.ORG MC or, so we don't come off like commercial shills, BUSA.ORG MC. On this point, please read my notes below...it may not be OK to have MC on a patch at all.

I have a Graphic Artist at my shop who specializes in corporate design (logos, etc.)
He'd do a great job and could develop a number of designs that could be put on my company's website in our Virtual Boardroom. I just give you the URL and the password and you're in. Then you could make comments and see successive changes.

If you want to do this, I need the input of anyone interested as to what they would want their colors to look like.

Greasy biker stuff? Greasy biker with class? Modern or traditional. What size patch? What words? What's the basic visual symbolism...the Japanese character for Hayabusa? The bike's distinctive snout? Dragons, skulls, fire, screaming women, a dragstrip christmas tree, checkered flags, a nuclear mushroom cloud, a high caliber round, a cartoon wheely, rifle cross hairs, a wheel engulfed in burnout smoke, a tree blown over by wind.

I GOT IT!!!!!!...the Hayabusa Falcon on steroids looking REAL mean and hungry. Face on with nasty blood red killer eyes.

Or we could do a lovely, colorful butterfly. I'm sure that would catch everyone's eye. Not.

If you'd like my Art Director to take shot at it, please post your suggestions and let's all agree on the basic components of the patch before I start using his expensive time.

You call it, Ducmanic. It was your idea to make us all look like hooligans so the police will know who to harrass.



[This message has been edited by Dirty Pete (edited 29 August 1999).]
 
Well this idea is a great one and I would think the patch idea may be more realistic.

This is a cheap thought, you have seen the Nascar die cut window stickers with the angry youth pissing on the race number of his most disliked racer. How about a similar drawn youth with a helmet pissing on a ZX12(instead of the mfg.name that is currently available)

A jacket would take forever to get (Chase had to chase too far to get paid for the T-shirt peoject- punn intended)designed and then for the money part, it could take forever.

A patch could be associated with membership date and verification from Chase as to member/nonmember status.
 
Dirty Pete, I think you should carry on in your generous offer to start a patch design.

It would not look very good with the existing clip art at the top of the Hayabusa page.

Pete what is the smoke from the tree fort from? Keep an eye out for FalconCop161!

Maybe FalconCop161 will offer the rights of passage through his township to patch wearing members.
 
Kawabuser: I'm happy to lighten up.

Some of us still love our tree forts, though.

I agree that a lot of people take the MC thing too far. The letters MC have special meaning to some. I once went into a tattoo parlour to get IMC discreetly tattooed on my upper arm and the proprietor, himself an MC member, had not heard of my little club and put me through all kinds of grief "proving" it and gave me a lecture about how my tattoo could "start a rumble in a bar." I told him to check who we are with his road captain and left and never went back. Who needs attitude like that? That tattoo parlour got a hand held rocket through the front door a week later. Jesus...and I had been in there with my wife!

I'm at work now at 6:30 A.M. on Monday...blecch. Does anyone want me to do anything about getting a patch designed or has someone else got a good resource that they'd like to use?

Until I hear back, I'll get a quote on producing them. I'll cost out quantities of 50 and 100 and post the result here.
 
Wow are we sensitive, nope no body or club affected my purchase of the Hayabusa. Clubs are like tree forts something you outgrow as a child. Hey on the internet you can even become an ordained Minister if you want. A club is an association of people with an actual social basis, a little more than jammin at a keyboard for laughs. Well Grand Pu-Ba didn't mean to ruffle your falcon wings. Pete you must have got your papers wet, lighten up. Who Cares??
 
Sorry I was slow to get back on the quote for the patches.

My work has been interfering with my riding and my .ORG activities. Work: The Curse of the Hayabusa Class.

My lowest quote on a quantity of 100 is $4.00 Canadian per unit. I'm not sure what the quality would be like.

For a 6" patch with 45,000 stitches (this is serious, near photographic quality), it would be about $15.00/unit Canadian.

Assuming youze guys would be willing to part with that plus taxes and shipping, I'll move ahead on designing the thing.

You'll see some alternative concepts probably in 10 working days.
 
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