You would most likely strip the threads before you damaged the gasket enough to leak. Especially repeatedly.
HELP!!!! Blowing a lot of Oil Filter Seals
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You would most likely strip the threads before you damaged the gasket enough to leak. Especially repeatedly.
I am thinking the same lines as Blanca. I don't see how you can tighten a filter 2 turns after the seal touches and if you do it is going to be way to tight, most filters are 3/4 turn.
But he is repeatedly screwing all on same two turns. Maybe it is crushing gasket and allowing them to blow out pressure? Maybe?
Johnny Venomous
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I've used both types of wrenches Plier type and Cap Socket type. Mangled the filter with the pliers and didn't have any problem blowing out. Wanted to put new filter on (because mangled filter looked like crap) before mounting plastics so I bought a new filter and used the cap style wrench on it and had it blow out again. From all the post I've read on here the factory procedure for the filter torque is spin on till it touches then 2 full turns tighter. I have tried putting them on hand tight and hand tight plus roughly 3/4 turn. If I had pics they would just show the 3/4" piece of gasket blown out the side of the filter flange. On the K&N filters the whole filter gets blown out on one side and deforms the base of the filter flange.
Who has a writeup from the factory service manual so I know exactly what the correct procedure is???? I have just been going by what I have learned on the internet, especially here at this site.
Who has a writeup from the factory service manual so I know exactly what the correct procedure is???? I have just been going by what I have learned on the internet, especially here at this site.
Johnny Venomous
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Checked it in the owners manual (Thanks Sixpack). Spin filter on till contact then 2 full turns.
Got a new filter tonight, I'll throw it on Fri. night after work and see what happens.
Got a new filter tonight, I'll throw it on Fri. night after work and see what happens.
Agreed.
Mr Brown
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+1 Something ain't right. My bike saw 20+ lbs of boost on the dyno (oops...) and never pushed oil past the filter gasket.
i dont think its gasket if the filter is being pushed sideways, like gixerhp said theres something causing excess pressure, either you have a bad filter or not the right one, or its in the crankcase, what kind of oil are you using? maybe the oil pump itself
dmallord
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heya guys,
on cars there is a pressure relief for the oil pump, if this is stuck...excessive pressure could blow the filter off. old chryslers had an accessible spring that could be stretched for additional pressure.
typically if the breather is clogged, you will build excessive crankcase pressure, but that pressure is on the gaseous side as opposed to the liquid side. blow gaskets and seals, but ive never seen the filter blow, except for when the relief valve malfunctions.
i looked at the manual for the oil pump for a possible relief valve...seeing nothing, and never actually having a busa oil pump in my hands...i could be way off base.
builders out there?
on cars there is a pressure relief for the oil pump, if this is stuck...excessive pressure could blow the filter off. old chryslers had an accessible spring that could be stretched for additional pressure.
typically if the breather is clogged, you will build excessive crankcase pressure, but that pressure is on the gaseous side as opposed to the liquid side. blow gaskets and seals, but ive never seen the filter blow, except for when the relief valve malfunctions.
i looked at the manual for the oil pump for a possible relief valve...seeing nothing, and never actually having a busa oil pump in my hands...i could be way off base.
builders out there?
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Yes there is a relief, its inside the oil pan!
Johnny Venomous
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On the alphasport.com in the oil pan parts diagram there is an oil relief valve assembly part# 16440-24F00. I am wondering what this is connected to and if it could plug up with oil sludge and cause an overpressure problem.
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Bike was wrecked and has 6,700 miles on it. Needed forks, front rim, fairings, rearset, footpegs and Yoshimura RS3 slipon. Motor was in tact. Before mods are Ivans timing retarder, full Yoshimura RS3 exhaust and undertail I did the Pair valve removal and block off plates, bigger battery with #4 battery and ground wires, lowered it a lot front and rear and really ugly chinese plastics
:. Once I get the state theft inspection done and get the title it is getting stretched 10 over, then going drag racing. Oil level is at middle of sight glass with bike straight up off kickstand. Pics, still gotta paint the tank.
:. Once I get the state theft inspection done and get the title it is getting stretched 10 over, then going drag racing. Oil level is at middle of sight glass with bike straight up off kickstand. Pics, still gotta paint the tank.
