Well, add this: the Gen3 system (polished) is $1054 from Tom at Veltune and the Yoshie tri-oval in titanium is $1060 from Pipecity, both "to your door". I was so hoping one or the other would be cheaper and I would make that the decision point. Now, I'm no further along then before, still undecided. The PC3r is even the same price, $315 w/ purchase of system. The only thing is, BDE comes loaded with a good map, the yoshies don't. Kyle at Pipe City told me he would download a map off the yoshie web site that would be close. Since I don't have a Johnny Cheese close by, I may have to run with what ever map I get until this summer. That may have to be the decision point. Or, maybe I should just take this money and buy her a new dining room table. Or not...