we do those one and many more as well(99vette @ Oct. 03 2007,16:18) where do you guys go? foresthill? icehouse? salmon falls? if you guys want my car club is doing a Leukemia & Lymphomia run on the 13th. there should be a couple bikes as well. the plan is to go up 88 to tahoe and come back on 80. if your interested let me know and i will get you the details.