Hidden info held on bike\'s computer??

[OB_Badagindo]

I'm a computer programmer, and was thinking... The 'busa's computer must be able to hold info like: highest rev, time spent there, avg speed, etc, etc. ANy thoughts? Or definite knowledge?? Interesting! Thanks!

P.S. The service manual doesn't seem to mention this.

 

[OB_VegasDude]

Oh s h i t, I'm in trouble............if thats true.............

 

[OB_KawAbuser]

No Dave you are just BAD..........

Vegas the fastest daily top speed member of these sites.........

 

[OB_VegasDude]

er, geeze, I just cant help it.........lol

 

[OB_Badagindo]

Well, I heard that the Kaw12 has a longer break in period, and if you don't stick to the rev limit, etc, it invalidates the warranty. How else would they know about your riding habits? Also, the 'busa OEM manual says the bikes computer remembers several system faults back for diagnosis.

They know.......they always know.....heh heh

 

[DaveO]

Big papa,


LOL...good one!!!


On board diags- From my sources, OBDIII proposals include the ability to detect engine/emissions defect on vehicle, then using RF, broadcast this warning out to "listening stations" located near roadways. This warning includes your ID#. This will allow goverment agency to mail you a "fix it" ticket. If not repaired in XX days then your registration is revoked.

This may not happen in the near future, but is NOT farfetched....

Dave


[This message has been edited by DaveO (edited 27 April 2000).]

 

[OB_Hooshy Bushy]

wire cutters and solder gun ready...BRING IT ON!!!

 

[OB_Badagindo]

I know the other computer guys here will back me up. You would not believe what things are possible NOW, and in the next few years.

If I were a manufacturer I would definitely want that info on a chip. As a customer....probably not.

 

[Guest]

Does anybody have a junk Busa ECM I can dismantle, dig the PROM chip out and disassemble the object code into a readable program? That would answer a multitude of questions, like restrictions.

 

[Guest]

JohnnyCheese or any other pro wrench.... What is the big connector hanging off the ECM for? I'm not talking about the dealer mode connector. Rather the bigger one with the multitude of wires terminating in it.

I can guess but I want one of the pro's to say for sure.

Thanx.

 

[OB_Jeff Arnold]

Last weekend I disassembled my ECM, and sure enough there was some really tiny etching towards the left side of the green chip just above where the blue wire exits through the grommet. I could barely make it out with a magnifying glass, the light in the garage was dim so I stepped into the sunlight but the reflection temporarily blinded me, my glasses fell off and shattered on the driveway so I have to order new ones tomorrow.

 

[OB_Bikenut]

I walked into my local suzuki dealer and asked him to show me the part # for the '99 busa's ecm. Then I looked at the 2000 model's. Both are identical. If they put any restriction in it it must be the blue paint job.

 

[OB_JokerJ]

I don't know for sure that the ECM holds that info, but I would guess that it could without a problem. The end justifies the means if Suzuki has it programmed that way. The cost to write the code, download it and have the data retained would be minimal compared to repairing a bike that was not broken in as required by the service/owners manual. That data would take up very little room in the ECM's memory.

Now I'm curious about the capacity of the memory, class of processors, etc in that thing.

 

[OB_gsx1300rguy]

I`ve heard that the OBDII computers now in cars hold that very information,for what and why only big brother knows.

 

[OB_valklex]

Busa ECM doesn't hold the info, becuase when you have an error code, once you get out of dealer mode, it's erased. Computers on bikes are on the very early stages. Have you seen the ones on cars? OBDII is mandated by the government for emissions reasons, not because the manufacturers want to spend the money on it; but it's a great diagnostics tool. Once the 2006 emissions take effect, OBDII-like requirements might be enacted. For now, don't worry.

 

[jzdad]

do faster bikes get faster chips. does intel sell to suzuki and amd to kawasaki???

 

[Guest]

The internal ROM chip is what's likely to be different. If someone can get the version and serial numbers off a '99 that would be good. I will get the '00 numbers.

 

[OB_Bob]

You can not order a 1999 ECM with the exact article number any longer. I have asked Suzuki to tell me what the differences are. I have not heard back yet. That was on Monday.
The 1999 article number has been superceeded to the 2000. I am out of town now, or I would post the part #. Probably just a vendor change or timing change, but if you need a new ECM it will set you back approx. $650.00 and you can only order the same number for the 2000 or 1999.

 

[OB_bruce]

Seeing as the Suzuki computer can not recall a fuel injection error code after you turn off the ignition switch what makes you believe it will store anything else boy you americans are paranoid.

 

[OB_NumbNuts]

G'day Bruce (he he)

I was born not too far from you and I'm more paranoid, what about these new speed cameras that automatically send you speeding tickets in the post and record the offence direct to DVD??
If this was interfaced to your bikes ECM, plus the GPS (as discussed before) ......see you in 25 yrs!!!!!!(maybe less if I'm a good boy)