How To Know If It's Time To Move On? Hayabusa.org

captain

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I read a few business articles recently that reminded me I needed to take a different look at Hayabusa.oRg Here are a few of the questions with the answers as I thought about them.

1. Is the excitement and thrill is gone.

Yes, the bike is still great but with nothing more than some bold new colors there isn't a lot of excitement.

2. Mission loses its creativity and drive:

Just as with the first point, we see new folks coming in and asking the same questions, digging up old threads and members don't have a lot to share.

3. There is no market for your service.
As the website Hayabusa.oRg if the members aren't excited then the site won't be exciting. The bike is a fantastic ride but we can see many threads in the forums today that there are a lot of other bikes catching up with the Busa or that look more appealing.

4. Your Mission Loses Its Luster
Our Mission has always been to foster an environment where Hayabusa Enthusiast could come together, build relationships and create memories. People still have the Luster, it's just on another bike.

5. You Love Your Product More Than Your Customers Do

I have to be cautious here, I have a lot of work in the site and at some point I have to let the old girl go. I often feel like that line in the movie The field of dreams, Build it and they will come! It's always been the members that kept this place functioning so let's not kid ourselves. The drive and desire for large masses (this is what it takes) to come to the site are just gone.

6. Your customers aren’t coming back for more

Even our long term members still lurk around but don't post images or talk anymore, what causes this? Could be that we have talked about everything on the Internet there is to talk about or it could be that Facebook and other social media sites have lowered our abilities to have real conversations but in the end we don't see folks coming back to use the site to build relationships in the manner they did in the past?


I recently noticed several threads on the site that spoke to the issue of Suzuki not releasing a bike comparable to other manufacturers or how Zook has fallen behind on the Hayabusa. It's interesting that you the members see this because the website lives and dies on the interest and support of the Hayabusa Community.

I am sure you long time folks have noticed traffic has continued to decline and I would call out specifically for the reasons listed above. I have watched as members have slowly moved on to other bikes, sites and hobbies or given up riding all together just to mention a few of the causal factors.

We have made adjustments over the years to try and keep up with the changes in technology and trends in social media but at some point we had to be our own site using the technology that matched who and what we were about. We have a mobile version of the site that allows users to upload pics right to a thread but this is seldom used on rides or get togethers anymore. Over the years other forms of social media have continued to grow and absolutely dominate the market. Facebook makes it really easy to create a group or a page of friends to all "hang out" in but try to go look up old messages or pictures and its next to impossible. Forums were created for conversations and community and Facebook was designed to check in, share and forget.

Because of the above mentioned factors we have been working for some time to keep the lights on and to be creative with what we do. We have tried to keep folks posting and showing interest with picture contest, inserting topics to discuss but the most use and one feature gets it the "Like" button. When traffic is down our advertisers don't see the return on investment and they pull out and one thing leads to another and in time we end up where we are.

We currently do not bring in enough cash to cover the cost of the site, the software, servers, renewals etc. With all of this said we have started to make the steps to wind things up.

What does wind up mean? I've discussed behind closed doors with the mods / admins the plan to start shutting things off. To plan out the eventual closure of the site completely and what steps that would take and in what timing we should do this. I have met with most of the advertisers already and explained where we are and what is driving the changes.

The downtime we experienced a few weeks ago was me moving the site to a new (lesser) server that is month to month hosting which allows us to break out when it's convenient for us. I could not justify a 12 or 24 month contract as we have not covered our hosting fees for several months.

As it stands right now we are notifying the members that our intention is to close shop, we want to give plenty of time for folks to make contact with old friends and get contact information of those friends. We want members to be able to get information that they might need from instant messages, media uploads they have made or post they participated in. We will continue to post up progress and status updates as we go with the next phase to turn the forum read only for a short period of time. The final chapter will be to take the site down to a single page that would essentially show that Hayabusa.oRg was on the Internet and we had served our time to the motorcycle community.

That landing page would be the marker on the Internet for us to simply say " We were here!"

Not much more to say other than after 18 years this is a day we could see coming but still hard to take action on since we have put so many hours of work building it, so many friends made and a lifetime of memories from some great people.

More details to come in the days ahead.

Before the "Save Ferris" banner goes up on the water tower let me say that we will never go back to donations.. While that might cover for a few weeks or months the long term plan has to be more stable than this, we have operated for years with our advertisers on the site supporting the community but they are feeling the crunch in the industry too. Powerhouse, TigerRacing, Boosted Cycle Performance, Boost By Smith, BallZMotorsports and Tobefast.com have been TREMENDOUS to work with and have stuck with us to the very end.. I will take care of them just as they have taken care of us.

Captain
 
Cap. I understand all you have conveyed here. It started as a labor of love and grew into what it became then and dwindled to what it is now. Love doesn't pay the bills and as you pointed out there isn't much about the bike left to discuss that hasn't already been.

It is with great respect that I wish you the best as you move on to other things. You showed a lot more patience than I ever would have here.
 
It's Facebook groups, they have put an end to specific interest forums. Mine is dead, busanation.com. Sport-touring.net is slow it used to be crazy busy. I know Scar has had a bit of history with the Org, but his facebook group, ISHOC is rocking busy. Just the changing face of the internet. The only forum I know of that is still busy is http://www.gtamotorcycle.com but they are a general interest motorcycle forum that is region specific to Toronto.

You are up against the changes social media has wrought over the last 10 years or so.

I'll be sorry to see you go.

cheers
ken
 
wow never thought i would see this day. Cap is it possible for someone else to take over and keep it up? Would you entertain any offers to assume "ownership".

On a side note i curse facebook and all involved with it!~
 
I’ve met some really great people because of this site, Cap and I’m sad but also am completely understanding of why. We all get old move on and the new kids on the block don’t want an outdated bike and can’t handle the forum life. Facebook is here and now, you will all be missed.
 
How about donations to keep it going one more year?
If, if, a gen3 shows up then, or is made known to definately be coming before an official release date, the internet is going to be all over it.
I would think a new Busa would bring the place back to life.
But, Captain, if you're done, we understand, and can't say thank you enough for what you have done!
Sad day
 
How about donations to keep it going one more year?
If, if, a gen3 shows up then, or is made known to definately be coming before an official release date, the internet is going to be all over it.
I would think a new Busa would bring the place back to life.
But, Captain, if you're done, we understand, and can't say thank you enough for what you have done!
Sad day

^^^^ THIS ^^^ :)
 
And why is the org closing again?

Oh that’s right... Vabs...

Love you too. :rolleyes:

Because you aren't here sunshine, that's why.......

Seriously though, if I hadn't logged in nearly 15 years ago, I would not be where I am today, trying to avoid awkward photos that Bots sends me and constantly changing my phone number :poke:

OK, honestly, I wouldn't know the love of my life, nor have the amazing network of friends that I have. There's no measure for what I've gained from being here all this time, even if for the last several years it's not nearly often enough. Life marches on, change happens.
 
Because you aren't here sunshine, that's why.......

Seriously though, if I hadn't logged in nearly 15 years ago honestly, I wouldn't know the love of my life...

Awe.... Don't tell Omar, he'll be pissed....
 
Thanks for all the memories and good reading over the years, Cap.
You always do things with class, including bringing this to a close.

:beerchug:
 
Well dam... I hate reading this, but can understand. Last week I was talking with the owner of the local Honda shop about the decline of interest in motorcycles as a whole.

It's been over 10 years since we placed the order for our 2008, I never thought it would stay in production this long. It seemed at the time like the GEN 2, for everything good about it was an intermediary bike, something to appease fans until the next latest, greatest version came along. That version has never came. I'm starting to doubt if it ever will.

I hope this site can continue in some way. There is so much information here that would be lost if it were taken down...
 
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