How to make a gen 2 the best bike you ever owned

[Pit Bull 13]

get those dyno numbers up, keep focused, motor and suspension first , eye candy can come when ever. Post up some video with sound as well, My guess is 526

Im not sure Im gonna have the Dyno #'s posted I have to keep something's on the down low.. and is your Guess 526 on pump gas or C-16?

 

[Jacobs]

Its so easy to spend someone elses money. but when you spend " $25K+ " you have to draw the line somewhere.. I know most of you havent spent that on the past 3 of your bikes all combined. so until you spend that kind of money hate on. I did this build for me not anyone else you dont like it dont look at it.

I think you're build is seriously awesome, but I feel like you have some thin skin on this. Not one person is "hating" on you or your bike. They're simply pointing out that the silver pegs don't match anything at this point and it's sort of an eye sore considering the extent of money and parts that are already on the bike... ie your stealth stock appearing swing arm. Of course most of us haven't put that much money into one bike, let alone 3, no need to dangle your big money in front of us

 

[arthur39]

Im guessing around 400 on pumps 5+ on c-16, if you tune it for both. May as well dyno for both while Frank has it have him give you 2 maps, one for the street one for the strip

 

[Pit Bull 13]

I think you're build is seriously awesome, but I feel like you have some thin skin on this. Not one person is "hating" on you or your bike. They're simply pointing out that the silver pegs don't match anything at this point and it's sort of an eye sore considering the extent of money and parts that are already on the bike... ie your stealth stock appearing swing arm. Of course most of us haven't put that much money into one bike, let alone 3, no need to dangle your big money in front of us

I never ever said anything about how much was spent nor will I ever tell anyone how much this cost. I respect all Riders and makes 2 wheels is all the same to me.

 

[Pit Bull 13]

Im guessing around 400 on pumps 5+ on c-16, if you tune it for both. May as well dyno for both while Frank has it have him give you 2 maps, one for the street one for the strip

Im going to have 2 maps. one for pump and for C-16

 

[2wicked]

No need for 2 maps? The map table is based on manifold pressure. So as the boost increases the injector pulse changes, so if your cutoff is 18 psi on pump fuel and you plan to run more boost, all you need to do it fill up on c16 and turn up the boost, the mapping for 20 psi and more is in the same table.

Richard

 

[Pit Bull 13]

No need for 2 maps? The map table is based on manifold pressure. So as the boost increases the injector pulse changes, so if your cutoff is 18 psi on pump fuel and you plan to run more boost, all you need to do it fill up on c16 and turn up the boost, the mapping for 20 psi and more is in the same table.

Richard

Thanks Richard I didn't know that. Sure will save me time switching between 2 maps. I cant wait to fire your kit up and show it off to people.. you and Frank are Awesome

 

[Pit Bull 13]

Im guessing around 400 on pumps 5+ on c-16, if you tune it for both. May as well dyno for both while Frank has it have him give you 2 maps, one for the street one for the strip

Ill definitely post up some video's. cant wait.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

yall really gonna grill me on that.. I guess Haters gotta find something.. the amount of money invested and you gotta find the one thing I didnt change. im down for some sponsor to pay for it.. or fellow pilot's.

I can even see them in your avatar! Yuck....uke:

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

And ps......it will never be truly fast cuz it ain't white.....

Slow Blue....poor thing.......pshaw....

 

[Pit Bull 13]

I can even see them in your avatar! Yuck....uke:

damn them.

 

[Pit Bull 13]

And ps......it will never be truly fast cuz it ain't white.....

Slow Blue....poor thing.......pshaw....

One day ill be as fast as you. Ill paint it white after I coat the pegs.

 

[mysticblu999]

Get some rear sets you cheap ass!

 

[GsxrBots]

 

[busabobh]

I think it must be penis envy, worrying about rear sets. Would like to know dyno results, I know yours is bigger than mine

 

[Ragu585]

I want to go fast too.

 

[mysticblu999]

I think it must be penis envy, worrying about rear sets. Would like to know dyno results, I know yours is bigger than mine

Uhh... Look at my build thread bro, I'm going to make well over 600rwhp. That means I'm cooler than you and I can make fun of ugly rear sets

 

[oemmk1]

Just quickly on the 2 map option are you saying richard that up to the pump gas limit of 18psi say, the c16 and pump map will be the same, surely with the same inj pulse the 2 fuels would have different a/f ratios? is it closed loop? Just like your 2 cents thanks.

 

[POWERHOUSE]

Just quickly on the 2 map option are you saying richard that up to the pump gas limit of 18psi say, the c16 and pump map will be the same, surely with the same inj pulse the 2 fuels would have different a/f ratios? is it closed loop? Just like your 2 cents thanks.

You can map for pump up to the limit of 18 pounds of boost and then map the rest of the way on C16. What that means is that on C16 when you are below 18 pounds of boost the bike will run rich, and the map on that fuel in that area will not be correct. You can either accept the compromise or do two maps. I prefer to map for both fuels, since this street bike will be doing double-duty. I want this bike to be perfect regardless of the fuel that is in the tank. That will be my approach on this particular build . . .

 

[2wicked]

Just quickly on the 2 map option are you saying richard that up to the pump gas limit of 18psi say, the c16 and pump map will be the same, surely with the same inj pulse the 2 fuels would have different a/f ratios? is it closed loop? Just like your 2 cents thanks.

Yes you are correct with the same injector duties, the differing fuels will have different air/fuel #s, but we typically tune for 1 map, basically the c-16 will run about a half a point to 3/4s of a point richer when in boost, not quite as much off boost. So the tuning can be done with one map, however if the customer wants 2 maps, we have done that too, my biggest concern is if the customer is unsure which map they are using or have loaded, so the single map, with slightly richer air/fuel ratio is not a big deal. Also most bikes that can run up to 18 psi on pump fuel run pump fuel on the street, and switch out to race fuel for a drag race or land speed event, something that is somewhat of a rare occurrence, so again running a little rich in the lower boost levels is not a big deal. I would think most individuals are not street riding much with c-16, and if they are, then the mapping would be tuned for it. Frank has tuned a lot of bikes and he definitely knows what he is doing, he just does it a little different then we do, both work, and both ways have pros and cons, Powerhouse is our #1 dealer for our turbo systems, so every customer can rest assured that they are dealing with professionals.


Richard