I am now an official geek of "Sport Rider" mag

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Just got Jan, '10 issue and was going through Harbor Freight coupons on page 91. I have to say that Harbor Freight is coming up with more and more products catering to the motorcycling community - which I like a lot (shh..., don't tell my wife). Then scanning the other page... Hey, that's my name there! It takes me a minute to figure out they published word for word my entire email I sent them a few months ago about the G-forces graph in Sep issue (IIRC), and forgot all about it. :cheerleader:

Oh, the reason for a Geek is because it's in the Geek section they call Your abnormal Guide to things abnormal, or something like this.

Now, if they sent me their datalogger once they are done, that would be really cool.:please: :whistle:
 
I read that! Cool beans, congrats! I didnt understand a word of it, but i read it! :laugh:
 
Sport Rider has long been my favorite magazine as well.

How about posting up your email and their response for our peeps that don't receive the mag? :beerchug:
 
Sport rider is up there among my favorites, sometimes it reminds me a bit of SCC (Sport Compact Car) which bit the dust few years back. Anyone got links on the article?
 
Richard Was Busy This Month
Of the three motorcycle magazines I currently subscribe to, Sport Rider invariably delivers the best comparison information and test data of the three, period. I especially like the performance data you provide with your model comparisons. Rather than a lot of seat-of-the-pants subjective opinions, your staff provides graphs and charts to show why one bike is faster or laps quicker than another. As an engineer, this is the stuff that makes your comparisons meaningful and provides objective credibility to your bike recommendations.

However, there is one bit of data that you and your competitors are woefully lacking, that being the vertical and horizontal locations of the center of gravity of your test subjects as a means of explaining their various handling characteristics. Rather, there will be some type of vague reference to lower center of gravity or weight bias toward the front or rear that really tells the reader nothing. I find this omission very frustrating because it would be so easy to get this information with three scales, a plumb bob and tape measure. As the old saying goes, "data talks, and BS walks," or something like that.
Richard Koch
Keller, TX


We have listed center of gravity numbers in the past-way back in '02 we measured some bikes and printed the results as part of our open-class shootout ("Target Fixation," August '02). Since then, we've sporadically measured and printed CoG numbers, especially if one bike was significantly different from its competitors in that aspect. It's easy enough to find the horizontal position of the CoG, and we often list that as a percentage weight distribution. The trouble we found with measuring CoG height, however, lies in the observer effect. Finding the vertical measurement requires raising one end of the bike on a ramp, hanging the bike from a fixture or laying it down on three scales. Changing the orientation of the bike to take these measurements moves the oil, fuel and other fluids to a different position, which we've found is enough to affect the results.

One solution is to drain the oil and fuel before taking the measurements, but then the numbers don't represent the real world. Each bike would be affected differently, skewing the results to the point that they are unusable for the purposes of comparison. Once we realized we didn't have a reliable, accurate and repeatable way to find a bike's true center of gravity, we stopped running specific numbers in the magazine.

wild stab in the dark
 
Sport rider is up there among my favorites, sometimes it reminds me a bit of SCC (Sport Compact Car) which bit the dust few years back. Anyone got links on the article?


I am also a regular reader of Sport Rider. I don't suscribe because I do have a Motorcyclist sub (Sport Rider is its spawn) but I buy issues whenever I see articles I like and can't read while standing in the store. I emailed them recently questioning their conclusions about a BMW/Busa comparo saying the BMW won even though the numbers told a very different story.

Sport Compact Car was another subscription that I had and was a great tuner magazine. I liked it because it stuck with cars and the technical stuff and stayed away from the bikini models and thongs (kids in the house so not a good message). Unfortunately the recession killed it and March 2009 was the last ever issue. Very sad and much missed.
 
Just got Jan, '10 issue and was going through Harbor Freight coupons on page 91. I have to say that Harbor Freight is coming up with more and more products catering to the motorcycling community - which I like a lot (shh..., don't tell my wife). Then scanning the other page... Hey, that's my name there! It takes me a minute to figure out they published word for word my entire email I sent them a few months ago about the G-forces graph in Sep issue (IIRC), and forgot all about it. :cheerleader:

Oh, the reason for a Geek is because it's in the Geek section they call Your abnormal Guide to things abnormal, or something like this.

Now, if they sent me their datalogger once they are done, that would be really cool.:please: :whistle:

You provided the best article in that entire issue! :thumbsup: That was the best read I have gotten from that rag in a long time.
 
Sport Rider has long been my favorite magazine as well.

How about posting up your email and their response for our peeps that don't receive the mag? :beerchug:

Sorry, I assumed everyone here reads the mag. I will post it up later tonight. There is absolutely no point of reading what I wrote without seeing the actual graph they published, so I will need to find Sep issue and scan the graph in, along with their response.

And thanks for kind words. I was sort of down on my mood with my recent bike troubles, FI codes, screw in the tire... so that was a pleasant surprise.
 
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