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I guess when they own the brand, they can do whatever they want....I'm not a snob or anything like that (and I'm not into muscle cars) but to me, the OG Charger (and Challenger) is the only one.
I find it so silly that a company thinks a name badge gives them the right to succeed an older model with a newer one that lacks whatever made the older model special.
I don't know where the line is drawn, though.
We could name Suzuki in this as well...I'm not a snob or anything like that (and I'm not into muscle cars) but to me, the OG Charger (and Challenger) is the only one.
I find it so silly that a company thinks a name badge gives them the right to succeed an older model with a newer one that lacks whatever made the older model special.
I don't know where the line is drawn, though.
Oh well, I'll stop using the term here then, it's just common on the advrider forum that's allI don’t know (what) you’re talking about.
The Pontiac GTO is a Holden Monaro coupe over here , my brother has a nice 5.7 ltr. example . When Holden made the import version for US market , they had to make a lot of extra quality additions , and put the steering wheel on the left side .Well.....Dodge was an American company when a car like this was made afterall......
Straight six, and they wonder why it wouldn't outrun a 351 Ford?
Some interesting cars came out of Australia....the newer Pontiac GTO that we didn't here was a great looking car...
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The originals are classics and best for sure , still , the late model Monaro Comodore actually go and handle pretty well .Those late model monaros were never popular here, they went to the US I believe because some state wanted a rear wheel drive and the options there didn't? They were basically a Holden commodore with a modded rear window.
These were the real monaros, some with 327 chev engines but the keepers were the 350 V8 versions.
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I don't remember ever seeing one of these on this side of the pond....Those late model monaros were never popular here, they went to the US I believe because some state wanted a rear wheel drive and the options there didn't? They were basically a Holden commodore with a modded rear window.
These were the real monaros, some with 327 chev engines but the keepers were the 350 V8 versions.
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I only twigged that you were an Oz after I'd posted Yes they do cut the mustard, much better than a stock commodore. I always wanted a senator but couldn't find one at the right price.The originals are classics and best for sure , still , the late model Monaro Comodore actually go and handle pretty well .
A lot of these 70's cars were built for the race track and expensive but to qualify for Australian touring car championships the manufacturers had to sell at least 1000 through the dealerships to the public at basic prices. Often they only made 1000 odd so once they were snapped up it was over rover. I think the Ford GTHO touring cars originally sold for about $2500. A Phase-3 version today sells for half a million. My brother briefly owned a Phase-2, sold it after 6 months for $5000. Boy did he kick himself in later years, no one had any idea they would become so rare and in demand. They were powered by 351 Cleveland blocks but with modified heads, "4-dot", huge valves and huge carbs, special cranks from memory and modded exhaust systems. They also came with special suspension, that's where the "HO" came from, Handling Options.I don't remember ever seeing one of these on this side of the pond....
We had Ford SHO products here in North America...the Taurus SHO was an awesome car for it's day....it had a Yamaha engine in itA lot of these 70's cars were built for the race track and expensive but to qualify for Australian touring car championships the manufacturers had to sell at least 1000 through the dealerships to the public at basic prices. Often they only made 1000 odd so once they were snapped up it was over rover. I think the Ford GTHO touring cars originally sold for about $2500. A Phase-3 version today sells for half a million. My brother briefly owned a Phase-2, sold it after 6 months for $5000. Boy did he kick himself in later years, no one had any idea they would become so rare and in demand. They were powered by 351 Cleveland blocks but with modified heads, "4-dot", huge valves and huge carbs, special cranks from memory and modded exhaust systems. They also came with special suspension, that's where the "HO" came from, Handling Options.
It appears Australia had/has a robust car culture like the US has/had....
When I think of a limited run on a car strictly for the purpose of racing, this car comes in mind...they had to make 500 civilian versions for dealerships in order to qualify it for racing....
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That kind of looks like what we had here made by Mercury called a Capri....That's a pretty wild looking car alright.
The late 60's and 70's were certainly the peak here, there were lots of super cars and a few surprises among them. The straight-6 RT chargers could out run the heavy 351 V8's in the corners and smaller straights but lost overall, this little one though was another matter. Light compared to many on the track it had a trick inline six too, triple SU carbs, all sorts of kit. The Holden Torana GTR XU1. It won the 1972 Bathurst 500 mile enduro race, partly I suspect because there was rain in the early stages and definately because of the driver, Peter Brock, he was called "Peter Perfect". The race is on a rural road section, quite long and convoluted and it included all manner of cars, even slow shiteBoxes that really shouldn't have been in a race of this caliber. But it was a race designed to show which cars could run all day and not fall apart, a proving ground open to all classes. I said 'WAS' because it's not now. Now it's a joke.
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