I love Obama!

[Zerks]

It is starting to look like Obama did a few good deeds and with Biden when they were planning to do an internal audit line by line within the Federal Government.

I came across a lawyer, Tom Renz, who actually read Trump's DOGE Executive Order and, expecting some illegal power grab, found it to be airtight. Turns out Trump and Musk didn't create anything. Obama did.
Obama created United States Digital Service (USDS) in 2014. It was meant as a bureaucratic patch job to fix the Obamacare website meltdown.
Fast forward to 2025. Trump rebrands it DOGE (United States DOGE Service). Keeps the acronym, keeps the funding, but gives it a whole new mission: Find the Receipts
Legally untouchable because it was already fully funded and operational. Trump invokes 5 USC 3161, which allows him to create temporary hiring authorities. DOGE teams get embedded inside every single federal agency. Each team consists of a lawyer, HR rep, a zoomer nerd, and an investigator. They report to DOGE, not the agency they're embedded in.
But wait, there's more! Trump invokes 44 USC Chapter 35, which governs federal IT and cybersecurity oversight. Since USDS was originally an IT oversight body, DOGE now has full access to all federal data systems. Yes, that’s right. All of them.
His executive order is written to block legal challenges. Includes language that overrides conflicting executive orders. Orders every agency to comply. Refusal means they violate presidential authority.
Congress can't defund it because it's not a new program, just a repurposed one. DOJ can't sue for overreach because Trump used existing laws exactly as written. Democrats trying to file legal challenges run into standing issues because DOGE operates within existing frameworks.
Obama literally built the perfect Administrative (read: Deep) State IT backdoor. Trump and Musk just hacked the system and took the admin controls. Musk now has legal oversight of every major agency's internal systems. The Administrative State can't stop it without rewriting multiple federal laws.
They legally outplayed the system and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Obama created DOGE.

This explains a little bit of what Obama and Biden were talking about.

 

[Red05]

I find your obsession with Obama interesting. The financial audit of the government is a good thing. Musk is treating the Federal government like a business which is probably a good thing. Hopefully he can keep his personal emotions out of it. Musk is to Trump what Obama was to Biden.

 

[Zerks]

I find your obsession with Obama interesting. The financial audit of the government is a good thing. Musk is treating the Federal government like a business which is probably a good thing. Hopefully he can keep his personal emotions out of it. Musk is to Trump what Obama was to Biden.

Most everything I address you consider an obsession of mine. We are living in period of time that is changing in ways never seen before in history... so... there is plenty to consider when it comes to how the future is shaped for all of us. Its likely you will never expose yourself to Dinesh's documentary regarding Obama's history, influences and tendencies... it would be too much to consider.

 

[Red05]

Dinesh DeSouza, since I don’t know him personally like you seem to, is another Obama obsessor. His film and book about Obama, which basically unreadable because of the ridiculous bias, have been completely rebutted, which you ignore because it doesn’t fit in your world.

 

[Red05]

Most everything I address you consider an obsession of mine.

Please expound. I may have mentioned your obsession with Obama before, but your statement is otherwise unfounded.
Given Obama’s moderate views, it seems a conservative would only focus on him because he’s black or maybe because he is so popular. If you want full on liberal, Bernie Sanders or Nancy Pelosi come to mind. Just an observation.

 

[Oz22]

Actually Obama wasn't Black, he only identified as Black
Obama's wider ancestry is made up of people of Kenyan (Luo), African-American, and Old Stock American (including originally English, Scots-Irish, Welsh, German, and Swiss) ancestry.
He was a racist too, he was once quoted as saying he'd never marry a white girl. Why? What's the difference... Other than their skin color.

in a blistering new biography, Pulitzer-prize-winning journalist David Maraniss has pulled his exes out of the shadows.
In so doing, he has revealed an unflattering picture of a president so desperate to sell an image of himself as a pioneering race warrior that he has air-brushed many of the ‘white’ elements from his life — including that string of well-heeled, well-educated white girlfriends. ww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163468/Barack-Obama-The-white-girlfriends-US-President-erased-past.html

He just exploited them for casual sex. Disgusting!

Barack Obama proposed twice to a long-term girlfriend but ultimately decided that her race made her a political liability and married Michelle. Mr Obama fell in love with Sheila Miyoshi Jager, whose ancestry is Dutch and Japanese, before attending Harvard Law School. He continued to see her after he began dating the future first lady, according to Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by David Garrow, the author who received a Pulitzer prize for a biography of Martin Luther King Jr.

So the author was no racist himself, just an honest journalist telling the truth.

 

[Red05]

Actually Obama wasn't Black, he only identified as Black

So the author was no racist himself, just an honest journalist telling the truth.

So our eyes are lying to us as far as him being black, huh? Kenyan can very well be black, Oz. I'm not going to discuss race with you because that will get ugly really fast and this thread will become history. As far as Sheila Jager, he proposed to her twice, and was twice refused. That doesn't do much for the point you're trying to make, though.

Obama did a great job and was a perfect candidate for a third term.

 

[Zerks]

Dinesh DeSouza, since I don’t know him personally like you seem to, is another Obama obsessor. His film and book about Obama, which basically unreadable because of the ridiculous bias, have been completely rebutted, which you ignore because it doesn’t fit in your world.

Only unreadable and ridiculous because you said so... millions of others don't agree with your assessment. Dinesh has a much wider body of work than simply having focused on Obama... The point is... look how Obama reacted to Dinesh's biography... instead of suing him for liable, slander or whatever he has him arrested and jailed for an over limit campaign contribution. Looks like another example of weaponizing the DOJ against what Obama considers a a political enemy to me.

Ever notice the left doesn't have any talk show host? They can't do it because they would get caught lying to much. Limbaugh, Hannity and several others have ( or use to before dying ) succeeded at high levels for years. This is why the leftist MSM is dying... promoting lies and deceptive messaging is a recipe for a failed media company.

 

[Zerks]

So our eyes are lying to us as far as him being black, huh? Kenyan can very well be black, Oz. I'm not going to discuss race with you because that will get ugly really fast and this thread will become history. As far as Sheila Jager, he proposed to her twice, and was twice refused. That doesn't do much for the point you're trying to make, though.

Obama did a great job and was a perfect candidate for a third term.

The 1st year Obama was in office he traveled the world apologizing for American exceptionalism to foreign leaders. Obama ACA spent a billion dollars for a website that failed miserably. What kind perfection are those 2 examples?

 

[Red05]

The Affordable Care Act is still here. You don’t agree with how he handled Foreign Relations?
I’m not surprised.

 

[Oz22]

So our eyes are lying to us as far as him being black, huh? Kenyan can very well be black,

So why not mention his white heritage too? He grew up with white grandparents in the US, that's how he got his privilege. As for your eyes, they are clearly lying to you, I have friends who are full blood blacks and he looks white compared to them. You stand on some high horse railing against racism but you're clearly racist against whites and want to expunge them from history, Barack's history in this case. I don't tolerate that!

But I won't discuss it any further, as you say, this thread will be around a while, I just wanted to set the record straight as to his achievements, which are due in large part to his having white blood, white heritage, white privilege.

File picture. I don't use pix of friends without their permission.

 

[Red05]

I just wanted to set the record straight as to his achievements, which are due in large part to his having white blood, white heritage, white privilege.

Just like in chess, sometimes it’s best just to wait.

 

[Oz22]

When you realize you've made a wrong move, there's not much left to the game.

 

[Red05]

I just wanted to set the record straight as to his achievements, which are due in large part to his having white blood, white heritage, white privilege.

Attribution of achievement or failure to heritage or color of skin is the basis of racism.
Wrong move? How about checkmate?

If only this were a game that we could just rematch.

 

[Zerks]

Attribution of achievement or failure to heritage or color of skin is the basis of racism.

No it's not... it was individuals doing the best they can regardless of the real challenges or simply perceived as challenges they must overcome to succeed.

Exceptions regarding skin color as an impediment to success and other so called labeled racist labels have been proven countless times to have been overcome.

We permit ourselves with the power within each of us to create ourselves in the ways that show our ability to over come whatever is in our way.

Some people are better at creating the life they want than others.

Wrong move? How about checkmate?

If only this were a game that we could just rematch.

 

[Red05]

No it's not... it was individuals doing the best they can regardless of the real challenges or simply perceived as challenges they must overcome to succeed.

How is that your definition of racism?

 

[Zerks]

How is that your definition of racism?

I thought you knew the answer to that question.... let it be known racism works in both directions... just look how the words "white privilege" has become something that is used to demean whites by certain groups. Looks to me the minorities are doing just fine with all the cultural adjustments and labels like "Black History Month". Other races don't have a month identifying them, do they?

 

[Red05]

.. let it be known racism works in both directions... just look how the words "white privilege" has become something that is used to demean whites by certain groups

No shidt

Looks to me the minorities are doing just fine with all the cultural adjustments and labels like "Black History Month". Other races don't have a month identifying them, do they

Other races didn't have to sit on the back of the bus or use other restrooms or drinking fountains, did they? The white privilege you refer to was not having to endure that BS. Today it's more subtle, but still definitely there. That's real, not a label.
Before you were born, did you have an interview asking you what heritage you wanted to be? Neither did anyone else.
If you're no better than Oz22, so be it. I thought you were.
Politics and religion, slippery slope. Racism, no room for it AT ALL

Jimmy, come take it. this thread SUCKS

 

[Zerks]

No shidt

Other races didn't have to sit on the back of the bus or use other restrooms or drinking fountains, did they? The white privilege you refer to was not having to endure that BS. Today it's more subtle, but still definitely there. That's real, not a label.
Before you were born, did you have an interview asking you what heritage you wanted to be? Neither did anyone else.
If you're no better than Oz22, so be it. I thought you were.
Politics and religion, slippery slope. Racism, no room for it AT ALL

Jimmy, come take it. this thread SUCKS

You remind of the custom side view mirror words on fast cars... it says... Cars in mirror are losing. Is that you I see in the mirror? lol !

 

[Oz22]

Politics and religion, slippery slope. Racism, no room for it AT ALL

Jimmy, come take it. this thread SUCKS

Racism is just a construct to blame White people for the ills of the world. We are just doing what we always did, getting on with the business of building a better world, not tearing it down like the blm and antifa protests.
And if you don't like the thread it's because you've cluttered it with your angry Bleeding Heart posts, like you do on half the other threads you infect. Mr. Angry.