Illegal immigrants sue Wendys
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CrashBomb
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The most disgusting thing about the whole situation is the quote the lawyer made early on in the interview.
"You can't distinguish between illegal immigration and legal immigration."
Um...what kind of nonsense is that? The difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration is that the illegal kind is...uh...ILLEGAL...idiots.
We're sorry Mrs. Smith, we're unable to prosecute the man who murdered your husband because we're having trouble differentiating between illegal murder and legal murder.
"You can't distinguish between illegal immigration and legal immigration."
Um...what kind of nonsense is that? The difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration is that the illegal kind is...uh...ILLEGAL...idiots.
We're sorry Mrs. Smith, we're unable to prosecute the man who murdered your husband because we're having trouble differentiating between illegal murder and legal murder.
Projekt
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Excellent Bro, excellent.(Spigga @ Oct. 11 2006,08:12) We have overcame and will continue to do so. We as a people can overcome anything and everything bar one. Bigotry. For it will forever live in the souls of those who factitiously call themselves "men".
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Even in a new millenium some still carry the attitudes of some of those in the 60's. If only I had a dollar for everytime someone told me to go back to Africa ...
Give me a dollar for everytime somebody told me to swim back to Mexico...
That's funny because if I started life in Cali why would I swim to somewhere I am not from? (insert the statements about service to my country, patriotism, and medals awarded in combat hahahaha)
Irony and bigotry is everywhere even here at this wonderful place.
Fact of the matter is that United States policies go to serve somebody and their economic interest. That is a special interest (anything having to do with money). You have groups of illegals that are sub-groups of fringe Amerikana, those that are oppressed but used within that oppression to extract financial benefits without liabilities doled out by legitimate employers. Wendy's along with every other employer should man up and stop profiting from the illegal plight and just cut their loses.
Let all of the ignorant haters hate some more onto the "criminal element from cross'da border". You have seen it in writing here, terms such as "they are breaking the law", "they are criminals", "they steal our stuff", "take our jobs".
I would love to see the guys on this board who say that nonsense out in the chicken factory or cooking fries at Wendy's. It'll make me a more Patriotic American to spend some money on the stuff they make.
They display their ignorance about what it is to be an American.
Where we practice "good" life, liberty, pursue happiness as a national motto, but stopped allowing other "undesireables" to come and join the fun because they look differently and talk a language that has been made unwelcome here.
I am about to get insulting to the point that my posting rights might be taken away.
So I'll chill.
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(Charlesbusa @ Oct. 11 2006,10:26)I assumed that since you brought up the fact that some people have told you to go back to Africa, that you were comparing the people brought over here from Africa to the people illegally crossing our boarders today.(Spigga @ Oct. 11 2006,09:01)If the government is issuing them a check, you'd better believe Uncle Sam is getting his due. If they are being paid cash, then of course they're not paying taxes ... hell ... neither would I. And though many here won't 'fess up to it, neither would they.(Charlesbusa @ Oct. 11 2006,11:25)Dude you're comparing apples to oranges.(Spigga @ Oct. 11 2006,08:12) We have overcame and will continue to do so. We as a people can overcome anything and everything bar one. Bigotry. For it will forever live in the souls of those who factitiously call themselves "men".
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Even in a new millenium some still carry the attitudes of some of those in the 60's. If only I had a dollar for everytime someone told me to go back to Africa ...
Slaves brought over from Africa were just that, SLAVES. They were brought here AGAINST their will and forced to live here. When they were freed, they paid TAXES among many other things that benefitted this country.
Illegal aliens do NOT pay taxes. Illegal aliens are using gov services that are for citizens who pay taxes.
The only Bigotry I see here is what you posted in your thread. Not trying to bash you, just offering a different opinion.
PS ... I've never been a slave so how can I go "back" to a country I've never been to? I wasn't speaking about slaves, I was speaking about me. ~I~ have been told to go back to Africa on numerous occasions. Many of my black friends who were born here have been told the same. Many of my haitian friends who ARE citizens have been told the same. I'm not talking about slaves, I'm talking about modern day bigotry.
Serenity prayer:
"God, grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and the Wisdom to know the difference."
We can sit here and go on and on about this, but I'm done. I've accepted America for what it is and what it's becoming. If it gets to a point where I can't stand it, I'll either become a politician and make a change, or consider the kitchen too hot and leave. But one thing I will never do is pitch a fit and complain about it on a motorcycle website. (If you choose to do so, then go for it. I'm not knocking that. I'm just saying Spigga believes in actions over words.) I can't stand the way Bush is running this country ... but I accept it. I hate the fact that I feel we have lost 1000's of soldiers in a needless war ... but I don't come here ranting about it. Even when the topic comes up I don't post to it. We had/have a section here called "The War In Iraq" ... not once did I ever post there. Why ... ? ... cause it'll do no good.
This is modern day natural selection at its best. Those that can adapt ... will. Those who can't ... oh well ...
I think the people that have told you to go back to Africa are Bigots. But those of us who feel that illegals, that take from the system and don't pay into the system, shouldn't be here aren't bigots. We just don't want to pay for someone(anyone else) else's free ride.
Remember illegal aliens are ANYONE who enters this country. Whether they're from Central America, South America, Europe, Asia, Australia, etc...
That is what you are made to believe Charles.
Fact is again and again...
Illegals <span style='color:crimson'>DO PAY TAXES. THEY PAY TAXES ILLEGALLY AND NEVER RECOUP THEM.
THEY ARE KEPT ILLEGAL SO THAT THEY CAN NEVER FILE A TAX RETURN!!!!! BECAUSE THEY USE ILLEGALLY OBTAINED SS#'s TO PAY THEIR DUES. IT IS TRUE!!!!
ILLEGALS ARE ONLY ILLEGAL BECAUSE IT SUITS SOMEBODY AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN SO TO SPEAK.
THEY ARE ONLY ILLEGAL BECAUSE THAT IS A WAY TO CONTROL THEM LIKE SCARED LITTLE LAMBS IN THE FLOCK....
LAWMAKERS ARE THE DOGS THAT PUSH THEM TO SLAUGHTER.
IF YOU DON'T AGREE I PITY YOU AND YOUR POOR MISGUIDED SOUL. AND A PRAYER OF SERENITY DOES NOTHING TO SOOTHE ME AND MY PERCEPTION OF YOUR INDIFFERENCE TO THE TRUTH AND WHAT IS RIGHT. PHUG IT RIGHT, A LONG AS YOU CAN PAY YOUR BILLS AND GET GAS HERE YOU'RE GOOD.
THE IDEA OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AS APPLIED TO ANY HUMAN BEING SEEKING A BETTER LIFE BY TAKING EMPLOYMENT TO CLIMB OUT OF THE PIT OF ECONOMIC NOTHINGNESS IS A VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS.
YOU ARE HELPING TO CONTINUE THE PERCEPTION OF WEALTHY NATIONS BUILT ON THE SWEAT OF THE POOR. THE POOR BEING THE ILLEGALS THAT " RUN AROUND LIKE COCKROACHES" IN YOUR MIND.
YOU TALK ABOUT A FREE RIDE AND NOT PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM, YOU SIR ARE IGNORANT.
SOCIAL SECURITY RECEIVES AN INFLUX OF CASH THAT HAPPENS TO BE SAVING IT RIGHT NOW. DEPORT ALL OF THE ILLEGALS AND THAT LITTLE SLUSH FUND WILL DRY UP.
SO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE RIGHT AND I CAN KEEP MY BELIEFS TOO.</span>
I'll agree that there are businesses who are obviously profiting from illegal immigrants by not paying them a living wage etc. But that doesn't change the fact that those businesses - and the illegal immigrants - are breaking the law by perpetuating that system.
I'm all for allowing people to enter the country provided they are registered/authenticated the same way the rest of us "legals" are, provided they are contributing to American society the same way everyone else has to. I'm just not happy with people sneaking across the border, because we don't know who they are, where they're going, or what they are doing.
I'm also not comfortable with illegals telling me they should have the same rights as I do, when they've already blatantly broken the law in the country that's accommodating them, providing their kids with an education etc.
The system needs to change, because right now it's not fair for citizens or non-citizens.
I'm all for allowing people to enter the country provided they are registered/authenticated the same way the rest of us "legals" are, provided they are contributing to American society the same way everyone else has to. I'm just not happy with people sneaking across the border, because we don't know who they are, where they're going, or what they are doing.
I'm also not comfortable with illegals telling me they should have the same rights as I do, when they've already blatantly broken the law in the country that's accommodating them, providing their kids with an education etc.
The system needs to change, because right now it's not fair for citizens or non-citizens.
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All I have to say is I paid a shitload of money, waited a shitload of time, then paid some more money, then waited, paid, waited, paid, waited, and right now I have my green card and am a Permanent Resident... a couple more years and I will be a full citizen.... so what i think, is **** them. they should have to go through what everyone else has to go through. you can't run across the border, and without being a legal sue americans... sueing is an american thing.... and at that moment their status was "Illegal Alien".... Illegal Alien = no rights... right now I am a PERMANENT resident... and guess what? I dont have the right to vote for the person who is running the country... does it matter that i've been living here for almost 10 years now (legally)? NO... America is a great country, and that's why everyone wants to come here, but until you wait in line and go through this pain in the ass process, you are not an american, and you do not have certain rights.... if you dont like it, go back to where you came from... no one is stopping you...
AES
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im thinking SPIGGA is half black and half hispanic. am i warm. not to hijack the thread but i think the "race card" and affirmative action are a bigger problem than hispanics. yes i believe that we have problem with illegal aliens here in the U.S. but the goverment can solve that problem by shipping them back 1 at a time and strengthening our borders. if thats what it takes. i think we lack back bone in the respect that we refuse to stand up for what is right for fear of political fire. But i gotta say, ive lost a promotion because my employer needed a black man, i scored better, more educated 4 year degree in the field, and had more job knowledge than the black guy who had a G.E.D. now if you wanna tackle an issue. SINK YOUR FINGERS INTO THAT
THE IDEA OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AS APPLIED TO ANY HUMAN BEING SEEKING A BETTER LIFE BY TAKING EMPLOYMENT TO CLIMB OUT OF THE PIT OF ECONOMIC NOTHINGNESS IS A VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS.
YOU TALK ABOUT A FREE RIDE AND NOT PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM, YOU SIR ARE IGNORANT.
Please explain, Projekt.
YOU TALK ABOUT A FREE RIDE AND NOT PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM, YOU SIR ARE IGNORANT.
Please explain, Projekt.
my view on the topic? The country is gettin a little too liberal for our own good.
Circlin the drain....I can feel it.
Circlin the drain....I can feel it.
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Okay my Pacific brother...
Deal is that once the United States started taking census and running numbers it realized that it would quickly (within 4 generations) lose the desireable majority and it's political clout. All at the hands of the most accesible and attractive land crossing known to this age.
This is because it is natural for an oppressed people to migrate to where there is less oppression. So you have all of the people living in countries south of the border that happen to fit within the economically oppressed envelope. Much of it is caused by political and cultural leadership within those countries but lets face it, the United States has a large hand in why those countries are not viable capitalist nations.
Think about Mexico before the 1968 Olympics. It was a vibrant bustling and culturally rich nation. Then sometime around there it began a slide into the decay that has overwhelmed it economically. Maybe it never climbed further up the food chain and ended up behind the rat race because of a lack of proactivity, maybe it was because of the Catholic church. Comparing itself to the northern neighbor it finds itself underneath it both literally and figuratively.
But, you have to wonder how much this trend had to do when it Nationalized the petroleum industry and kicked out the American firms. Don't you wonder about that? PEMEX absorbed all foreign and domestic private petroleum ventures. Then all of a sudden Mexican Petroleum is low grade and not "attractive" or
"suitable" for American refiners. Gee whiz! Do you see something fishy with that? Because, I do see something FISHY with that.
Now back to your request.
People have been migrating for all of humankind. They ran across the Bering Strait back in the day to chase mammoth and caribou.
That is a natural human phenomenon. To Migrate, believe it, for that matter boiled down, it is a natural phenomenon period to include mammal, fish, reptilian and avian life. You watch discovery so fill in the blanks. I dare say that it is a Human Right to migrate.
So we have this border issue that causes hope and heartache due to one nation's wealth that the people within care not to understand is enough to spread around.
The people that make it across the mountains desert or rio are motivated mutherphukkers.. If they can walk the desert in scorching conditions and survive I say process them and welcome them to the USA because they will tough out the jobs others will not do and they will persevere when many modern Americans will hang it up. They will not collect TAX REFUNDS on the money that they contribute albeit via illegal means.
So who wants to argue that they take and don't give? Nobody, because I will shut you down.
And, another thing, as just food for thought. When was the last time you went for a walk that was farther than your car then to your office and maybe a little more to the grocery store?
If you do that sort of thing regularly then I will call you the exception and very fit relative to the general populous.
And you are also correct...
I am dealing with a situation like that right now...
An underqualified, less educated, handicapped minority bumped me from the position I have held for several years...
And there is not a damn thing I can do about it...
So, I just keep going from day to day and hope the obese POS falls over from a coronary...
David
The need for Illegal Aliens works hand in hand with our welfare system. As long as people (citizens) are paid not to work, the need for others to do the jobs they refuse to do will remain. When not activated and over here, I am a Deportation Officer for Fugitive Operations with ICE. I enter houses of third generation welfare citizens with 42 inch TVs and play stations almost daily. If we cut the amount of welfare (not all because some do need it) and forced Americans to work or starve, the need for illegals would diminish. The illegals are abused and mistreated but along with every five or six "hard working illegals" comes a gang banger who is also here to take advantage of naive Americans.
I think the fact that many Americans are big hearted but ignorant as to how this all works is a problem also. We do need to shut down the border and know who is here. I would deport all those that came here illegally and then start a worker program to let those that are sponsored in. No limit if sponsored. I don’t want to let those who cheated stay because I also know how hard it is to come here without cheating and those who did deserve the reward.
I think the fact that many Americans are big hearted but ignorant as to how this all works is a problem also. We do need to shut down the border and know who is here. I would deport all those that came here illegally and then start a worker program to let those that are sponsored in. No limit if sponsored. I don’t want to let those who cheated stay because I also know how hard it is to come here without cheating and those who did deserve the reward.
hmm...well, what about the theory that it is a violation of human rights to seek better employment to raise themselves out of the pit of economic repression?
I don't think that most people here have any problems with them having jobs.
I think that to a majority of them, it's more a matter of principle. Sure, there's nothing wrong with trying to better your economic situation...in fact, that is what I believe drives the current economy. But the manner in how you do it is what is more important.
They are there illegally , and they are crying for their rights. The only thing is, they just don't have any rights to begin with.
I'm not jumping on the oppresion bandwagon or whatnot, but I do think that they should at least go about joining the american workforce the proper way, you know what I mean?
In past immigration threads, a majority of the posters expressed the apparent consensus that they had no problems with immigrants doing the jobs or being here, just as long as they did it the "proper" way.
Becoming a permanent resident or a naturalized citizen (I think something like that) is definitely a way to start.
Not sneaking across the border and then setting up shop.
Your rebuttal?
You are partially right but only in a VERY VERY VERY few cases.
Generally, illegals do NOT pay taxes of any kind except sales tax at the counter (one of the reasons I favor a national sales tax as opposed to income taxes but I digress).
Your post sounds very much like a conspiracy theorist's thoughts, partly because it isn't backed by qualified references. Do you have such references you can use to back up what you're saying? I'd be curious to see them.
--Wag--
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