the thread has been up on the board since early august , it was a public invite alls you had to say was im in ! all were welcome including non longislanders, off to the left check track this topic , there will be another ride shortly , we are goin to hammer out the dates it will be an up state ride , when i say upstate its only about 70 miles to get to the area ,when we do 3 to 400 miles in a day it goes easy , plenty of breaks , stops and some realy awsome riding in that area !