Martial law declaired at all NFL football games!!

[O Holy P]

I search back, when they pat me down, I pat them down...try it sometime. They get all huffy & puffy, but I say "hey!...what's good for the goose is good for the gander!"

 

[BUSA CRUSEN]

Unless goverment officials are doing the search its not unconstitutional. I don't agree with it though.

 

[GNBRETT]

honestly I have no clue but there's a ton of them. A lot of cruisers/HD but a fair amount of sport bikes as well. There are some pretty nice roads here, now that the stupid season has ended the roads are a lot less crowded these days. Its less of a place to haul tail and more of an area to cruise and enjoy the sights. Sights can include the water/area, seeing the gross national deficit of oh say all of central america sitting at the stop light beside you or the 2 leg wild life walking around the towns/beaches. Living here I guess I take some of it for granted but the area is very pretty and a massive difference from the first 80-90 miles of long island as you drive east

very kool. I got a buddy that comes up from jersey who rides a Ducati. we will check that area out. ya know ive never gone further then west babalyon so I have always wondered what it looks like in more remote areas.

 

[SLO MO]

The NFL has ordered all franchises to conduct PAT DOWN searches of AlL fans entering stadiums!! Yes you to can be a witness an willing participant to this historical violation of our constitutional right of unreasonable SEARCH and siezure all in the name of you looking the other way in the name of "security"!!!! This is one step closer to martial law folks...if i appear to give probable cause to warrent search...yes by all means i am subject to a search ( ie acting wierd, gun like bulges in clothing, nervious or jittery, ect ect) NOT because i PAID to go WATCH my favorite football game with thousands of similar thinking folks!!!! you cannot excuse away your rights in the name of "security" and desensitise you or your children to the concept of GOVERMENT CONTROL!!!

You are aware of the incidents that lead to the NFL asking stadium security to tighten up right? Incase you missed it, there were two shootings in the parking lot of a stadium and last week on tenth anniversary of 9/11 a fan was able to get a taser in, when the gentlemen who was 59 years old was attacked on his way to the bath room he used it.

Needless to say, this was probably very embarrassing to NFL security, especially on a day when security should have been at it's tightest. The response for this week no one should be surprised about, the NFL is more concerned about fans and especially family's feeling safe at games. I mean they already have to deal with the drunken idiots ruining the game day experience don't need them armed.

South Carolina Man Uses Illegal Taser At Cowboys-Jets Game | Fox News

 

[zukracer]

very kool. I got a buddy that comes up from jersey who rides a Ducati. we will check that area out. ya know ive never gone further then west babalyon so I have always wondered what it looks like in more remote areas.

let me know if you are coming to the area, I'm local most of the time. There is actually a mad maps route around the east end, there are however some "local" routes that help avoid some of the less fun traffic areas.

 

[Busa1166]

What about concealed carry with a license? In Georgia, there were no stipulations about me carrying a gun into a stadium with my license. I see where you are going with this, and I think it is BS as well, one more step to not being free.

In FL can't carry into those events I think

 

[GNBRETT]

let me know if you are coming to the area, I'm local most of the time. There is actually a mad maps route around the east end, there are however some "local" routes that help avoid some of the less fun traffic areas.

will do. thanx

 

[Busa1166]

You are aware of the incidents that lead to the NFL asking stadium security to tighten up right? Incase you missed it, there were two shootings in the parking lot of a stadium and last week on tenth anniversary of 9/11 a fan was able to get a taser in, when the gentlemen who was 59 years old was attacked on his way to the bath room he used it.

Needless to say, this was probably very embarrassing to NFL security, especially on a day when security should have been at it's tightest. The response for this week no one should be surprised about, the NFL is more concerned about fans and especially family's feeling safe at games. I mean they already have to deal with the drunken idiots ruining the game day experience don't need them armed.

South Carolina Man Uses Illegal Taser At Cowboys-Jets Game | Fox News

Didn't hear anything about that..... Interesting though, shooting in the parking lot? Are they planning on searching everycar that goes into the parking lot ???


That would cause some serious backup on the roads and highway here since we have a direct exit to the stadium... People may need to show up a day ahead to get all the cars searched and parked.. hhhmmm If they can't search all the cars before the game shooting people in the parking lot shouldn't be a problem...



A man was attacked and used a tazer to defend himself, that low life had the attack coming probably the nerve of him to defend himself I think they should let everbody come in with a tazer gun probably keep the drunken idiots from getting violent... If the NFL was really concerned about protecting thier fans they would ban alchol from games and being on the property of where the games are held... they park a few blocks away and drink but drunks hate walking after being trashed

 

[smac]

Like Ben Franklin said "If you give up liberty for safety you will have neither" Food for thought..

 

[lil charlie]

More people are killed by snakes in the U.S. Than by terroistic acts... Why in the name of security are we not pat sown n stripped searched before we go into the woods? Yes its obsurd but there is a POINT!!

Did you ever stop to think its because of all the security we have that americans don't die very often from terrorists in our own country? I agree with most of what your saying. Pat downs at football games is over board but they got to do something with all the beatings and stuff we have been seeing at sporting events over the last few years. If they don't american sporting events will be like soccer matches across the world where the fans riot and kill each other. I like my freedoms but understand that some sacrifices come with it. I do not tolerate airport security, I welcome it. I would reconsider going to a football game if I was subject to a pat down but may still go anyway. Shopping malls and road side are over the top.

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[Sous]

Just because you have a license to carry a concealed weapon does NOT give you the right to go where you want with it. Let me give you an example: nobody walks into me home carrying a gun. Your choice is to leave your gun at home or not come into my home. I see no reason why the rules should be different for my place of business. Do you?

My businesses are in Texas and several of my employees have concealed handgun licenses. They are not permitted to bring their guns to work. If they do, I will fire them. Is that wrong just because they have a license?

I agree with your statement, but you are talking about a private residence or private business. In GA, you are permitted to carry a hand gun just about everywhere, besides government buildings, nuclear power plants and a few other places. Of course, if the business owner does not permit it, then you cannot carry there. I agree with that and was not trying to start another pointless argument with you about gun laws. I carry my gun most places I go, and to be honest feel weird when I do not have it.

 

[SLO MO]

Didn't hear anything about that..... Interesting though, shooting in the parking lot? Are they planning on searching everycar that goes into the parking lot ???


That would cause some serious backup on the roads and highway here since we have a direct exit to the stadium... People may need to show up a day ahead to get all the cars searched and parked.. hhhmmm If they can't search all the cars before the game shooting people in the parking lot shouldn't be a problem...



A man was attacked and used a tazer to defend himself, that low life had the attack coming probably the nerve of him to defend himself I think they should let everbody come in with a tazer gun probably keep the drunken idiots from getting violent... If the NFL was really concerned about protecting thier fans they would ban alchol from games and being on the property of where the games are held... they park a few blocks away and drink but drunks hate walking after being trashed

Here you go, the story on the parking lot shooting and I think as a result of this what they did was step up security and police presence in the parking lots. Mayors, NFL speak out after post 49ers-Raiders game double shooting - Crimesider - CBS News

 

[busabobh]

I was patted down at the BRONCOS game that was the last straw , I will not go back.

 

[kitchener rider]

nice I guess your country is now land of the sorta not free and home of the afraid...... from what we see up here is a country whos media wants to instill fear in its people and will stop at nothing to drive that point home....

 

[Gpmo]

I think it's kindof weird that there is such a huge problem with people getting assaulted at these pro sports events.

I will not participate in the pat downs by not going.

 

[chrisjp]

ok...let me expand on this...the talk and request for federal funding for tsa is to expand into checkpoints at bus stations, subways, and roadway check points. there is now private business's requesting security representation at malls and schools. imagine this continueing to expand uncontrolled because you are TOLERABLE of this. its already in the works folks....and to turn a blind eye is paramount to saying...yes in order for me to feel safe from "terrorists" i give you the "goverment" all rights to search me whenever and however you darn well feel like it...uhhh welcome to 1930's germany and russia...oh wait... even they didnt even grope the children and wives and remove diapers ect ect ect....are you starting to see the point yet?????

 

[BusaBret]

Think about all those new jobs! The feds will be able to make unemployment rates look better.

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[Gpmo]

ok...let me expand on this...the talk and request for federal funding for tsa is to expand into checkpoints at bus stations, subways, and roadway check points. there is now private business's requesting security representation at malls and schools. imagine this continueing to expand uncontrolled because you are TOLERABLE of this. its already in the works folks....and to turn a blind eye is paramount to saying...yes in order for me to feel safe from "terrorists" i give you the "goverment" all rights to search me whenever and however you darn well feel like it...uhhh welcome to 1930's germany and russia...oh wait... even they didnt even grope the children and wives and remove diapers ect ect ect....are you starting to see the point yet?????

It's almost like our fore fathers thought of this and wanted to prevent this with our bill of rights...

I feel like some of our rights protected by the bill of rights are being considered whimsical wishes to our current political structure.

 

[The Tekken]

I agree with your statement, but you are talking about a private residence or private business. In GA, you are permitted to carry a hand gun just about everywhere, besides government buildings, nuclear power plants and a few other places. Of course, if the business owner does not permit it, then you cannot carry there. I agree with that and was not trying to start another pointless argument with you about gun laws. I carry my gun most places I go, and to be honest feel weird when I do not have it.

I fail to see the difference between my small places of business and a football stadium other than, obviously, the size. Both are privately owned correct? Nobody has the right to come and go in there as they please. I have the right to deny service to anyone I please for any reason I please (other than sexism or racism of course), so why would an NFL franchise owner have less right than me?

The real point here has been missed I think, which is it probably won't make any difference anyway. People will still be able to get guns in there if they really want to...no WAY they can pat down every single fan that goes through the gate surely.

 

[skydivr]

Wait a sec, the NFL isn't a GOVERNMENT, it's a PRIVATE ENTERPRISE. Your ticket is a contract between you and that private enterprise, and I'll bet if you read the fine print somewhere it will say you are SUBJECT TO SEARCH. If you don't like it, don't buy the ticket and watch on TV. I don't like it, but I have a choice of whether or not I'm willing to accept the rules to attend. Free enterprise.

I don't want intrusion by the government, just as much as I don't want government dictating to private enterprise. This was voluntary by the NFL. If the Government had mandated the NFL to do it, I'd be suing the Government, not their call either. I guess you never saw "Black Sunday"?

Black Sunday (1977) - IMDb