Robert 0046
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Very nice the touring windshield
Motor fix has carbon winglets finally
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InfiniteReality
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MotoGP winglets that are enclosed, don't they generally face forwards? The ones they have point inwards, way inwards. Looks more like it creates drag than anything?
Robert 0046
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They hold on to bolts that means holes in the plastics ill pass on this one
Pass on them all.
It has been well said here before;
the Busa is still one of, if not the, most aerodynamic motorcyles in the world, wind tunnel designed, with each generation improving on the last.
If the gen3 needed that wing, Suzuki would have put it on there.
Look at the trials and testing MotoGP does with wings too, there's alot involved.
I don't really see anyone in the wing business paying for wind tunnel R&D for gen3 wings either, as there's no profit and huge debt in that.
So, unless you just cruise around at the speed limit, and even then, these wings will upset handling.
I know the Puig winglets I put on the '18 Gsxr1k caused a few eerie handling situations, some at 60-70mph too.
So buyer beware.
It has been well said here before;
the Busa is still one of, if not the, most aerodynamic motorcyles in the world, wind tunnel designed, with each generation improving on the last.
If the gen3 needed that wing, Suzuki would have put it on there.
Look at the trials and testing MotoGP does with wings too, there's alot involved.
I don't really see anyone in the wing business paying for wind tunnel R&D for gen3 wings either, as there's no profit and huge debt in that.
So, unless you just cruise around at the speed limit, and even then, these wings will upset handling.
I know the Puig winglets I put on the '18 Gsxr1k caused a few eerie handling situations, some at 60-70mph too.
So buyer beware.
InfiniteReality
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I like the look of them being pretty subtle, but the more I see that inwards direction looks kinda goofy.
Meeteepao
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Amazing thread and just what I was looking for. Valuable inputs from a lot of guys. I was excited for a while but fully agree with @sixpack577 's take on it.
At this point, I'd only consider the winglets designed by TTS Performance UK, if I ever go down that route. But I think they don't sell them separately.
At this point, I'd only consider the winglets designed by TTS Performance UK, if I ever go down that route. But I think they don't sell them separately.
Busa3Fan
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TTS do sell winglets separately for £1700 for the winglets and subframe.
I think it depends on how they approach the wings. Most street bikes don't go that fast and those small wings and pretty traditional body panels just aren't going to do much. In fact, I bet the wings are positioned to be as neutral as possible aerodynamically. Still, who knows what will happen to pass that truck at 90 mph on the highway? But think about it: We ride with stuff tied down to the rear seat, clothes flapping, moving all around in the air stream, or even with a passenger, so how precise can the airflow really be? I am sure these wings are designed so that don't actually work!
On the other hand, my BMW K1600 was the spookiest ride ever in the wind. I have gotten EST (excessive sphincter tightening) even just passing an SUV. It was a combination of the huge flat front of the bike/shield and the very twitchy balance of the bike. That was a really dangerous bike. With panners, BMW limited the speed to just a little over 100 mph. Made me wonder what the complicated 6-cylinder engine was even there for! The Busa is exactly the opposite - super stable. So I doubt the wings will matter (at normal speeds of course).
I concur, Suzuki spent a lot of time and money developing the Hayabusa in a wind tunnel so it could maximize it's potential......and many on this forum have gone well over 200 mph without an issue with aero stability....
A wing would be just for appearance the same as on a front wheel drive tuner car with a huge wing on the back..
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Rojo
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Winglets | Gen 3 Busa Information
What do you think about adding winglets to your Hayabusa? I personally like the idea but I can’t find any nice winglets. The ones that I like are from the M1000RR and RSV4 2022. Probably are not so hard to make.
Sinister#4
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Soon as I have a look at the actual wind tunnel data and all test results i`ll think about them......................................no data, no sale. This bike is stable as a rock at speed, nfw id bolt any untested aero on it for looks. And ill agree with the BMW 1600 data, grand america is a great looking bike, but its a death trap at speeds over 100.
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While I agree with you about the Busa and it's design the thing about FWD cars and rear wings isn't true. Aero and downforce is aero and downforce. There are time attack, touring car and road racing FWD cars that benefit from the downforce a rear wing provides in the cornering department.
Some wings are very functional, but the big ones on fwd cars are pretty funny.
These guys don't realize that even if the specific design does provide good downforce, that the drag they cause really slows them down...alot.
I remember way back in 1994 when the Mustang was redesigned.
Most of the GT's came with a small factory wing on the trunk lid, while a few of them did not.
A magazine tested the times, 0-60, 1/4, braking, etc.
After several passes at the quarter, they removed the rear wing as a drag test, and ran the car 3 or 4 more passes.
They found that once they removed the wing...they gained 2/10ths and 2mph!
And all from a very small wing.
So every time I see a 30 pound, 3 foot high wing on a Honda Civic, I just laugh.
These guys don't realize that even if the specific design does provide good downforce, that the drag they cause really slows them down...alot.
I remember way back in 1994 when the Mustang was redesigned.
Most of the GT's came with a small factory wing on the trunk lid, while a few of them did not.
A magazine tested the times, 0-60, 1/4, braking, etc.
After several passes at the quarter, they removed the rear wing as a drag test, and ran the car 3 or 4 more passes.
They found that once they removed the wing...they gained 2/10ths and 2mph!
And all from a very small wing.
So every time I see a 30 pound, 3 foot high wing on a Honda Civic, I just laugh.
I agree with @sixpack577
An FWD would need a front dam to gain traction and a smaller controllable rear spoiler to plant the rear tires....but not a great big huge 4 food wing like I see around here as their effects would counter the front dam destabilizing the car inn my opinion....
Race teams use wind tunnels to set their wings whereas "Joe Baloney" just finds a cool one in a catalogue and bolts it on...
Cruising180
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Right that's why I specifically left drag racing out of my statement. Also no street car needs any aero for downforce. I was more responding to the blanket statement that NO FWD car benefits from a large rear wing.
Cruising180
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Hey apparently you can bunny hop street bikes now! Who knows what the future holds
Rojo
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