MSF cost? Ridiculous?

[Big Bo]

$200 in Cali in 04.

 

[BAMBOOBUSA]

I was at the MSP bike show today and they had the course for $55 or $40 dollars apiece if my friend and I joined together.

 

[displacedone]

$250 here in Georgia and I think it was well worth it. I had never ridden and left comfortable with the basics of control. Parking lots and rush would have killed me if I hadn't taken the course.

 

[displacedone]

*rush hour
Being a newbie it taught me that you can only effectively/efficiently do one thing at a time brake, accelerate or steer. Being a trail braker in the mountains with my Cobra is fine.....same technique with my busa as a beginner would be expensive. They do a lot of slow speed maneuvers, figure 8's and the like, teach you outside, inside, outside (apexing.. why they won't call it that I don't know) and evasive maneuvers. They cover safety, bike familiarity and gear familiarity and control basics then tell you to go ride and come back for the advanced course with your own bike and they will do higher speed evasion and control drills. They never said what the advanced class covers in the classroom.

 

[Got-Busa?]

free for military

Not in Ohio.....$25 for everyone

Ohio might charge you the $25 but the Government is required to provide you the training. Some installations have their own training program, some pay for the training. Some a combination (ours is a combination) of the two. Some use other nearby installations to provide it. Some don't have a clue and don't enforce the requirement. However, you are required to have it and they are required to provide it. All it takes is talking to your safety office and elevate accordingly. I doubt if you will be reimbursed for any previous training. If your installation is not providing training, please get the balls rolling. Too many of our military members are being injured and dying in motorcycle accidents, some of which could be prevented with training. Do your fellow service members a favor and get them to start requiring and providing the training!  

DODI 6055.4 E3.2 Covers motorcycle training

E3.2.  MOTORCYCLE SAFETY (HSPG NUMBER 3)

E3.2.1.  Operators of Government and privately owned
motorcycles (both street and off-road versions) on DoD
installations must be appropriately licensed to operate
on public highways (except where not required by the
SOFAs or local laws).   A valid U.S. Government Motor
Vehicle Operator's Identification Card (OF-346) or a
Unit Level Logistics System (ULLS) Operator Qualification
record fulfills the licensing requirement for operators
of tactical motorcycles.

E3.2.2.  Where State or local laws applicable to the
installation require special licenses to operate privately
owned motorcycles, motorized bicycles (Mopeds), motor
scooters, or ATVs, such license requirements, as a minimum,
shall apply to operation of those vehicles on DoD installations.

E3.2.3.  Before operation of any motorcycle, personnel
shall successfully complete an approved rider or operator
safety course.  This training requirement excludes
those operating motorcycles with attached sidecars and
three-wheel motorcycles.

E3.2.3.1.  The safety course must include the following:
 the appropriate Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF)
or Specialty Vehicle Institute of America (SVIA) or
MSF-based State-approved curriculum taught by certified
or licensed instructors; hands-on training; and a performance-based
and knowledge-based evaluation.

E3.2.3.2.  Training required by this Instruction shall
be provided at no cost to military and DoD civilian
personnel.   Personnel shall not be charged leave to
attend training required by this Instruction.

E3.2.3.3.  Additional performance based evaluations
may be required for off-road recreational operation
of privately owned vehicles or vehicles controlled by
morale, recreation, and welfare organizations on DoD
installations.   Privately owned ATV and off-road motorcycle
operators should complete training.   Operators are
also encouraged to complete refresher training before
each riding season or after long periods of inactivity.

E3.2.3.4.  Curriculum and proficiency training for tactical
motorcycles will be tailored to satisfy specific mission
objectives.   Operators will have previously completed
a safety course as required in the above paragraph E3.2.3.1.

I know what the requirements are and Wright-Patt of all places takes it to the extreme.  It may be free over at the Springfield Guard base but not for WP guys because I am our Squadron rep for it.

I had it FREE at my last assignment but 6 of my coworkers had to pay for it locally.  A lot of things have changed in the last couple years since the AF leaders got involved in motorcycles.

The only problem is that they seem to enforce it for people that ride ON BASE only.  They don't have a clue about people that are active duty and WON'T ride on base, period.  That seems to be were the majority of our accidents are coming from....

E3.2.2. Where State or local laws applicable to the
installation require special licenses to operate privately
owned motorcycles, motorized bicycles (Mopeds), motor
scooters, or ATVs, such license requirements, as a minimum,
shall apply to operation of those vehicles on DoD installations.

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