Need opinions, To young for a Busa?

[Nazgul]

I wonder what bikes will be like then

?? 19 years from now ..... compare the busa with a 19 year old bike and imagine what they can do !!!!!

wow.. that is a cool thought.  

My own theory isn't as "happy" as yours though..

I think motorcycle are about to hit their apex.. and regulations, laws, and limiters will be the "norm" of the future.

We are already being restricted to 186ish MPH.. with rumors that in another few years it will be down to 160, 150. 120.. etc.

In my mind we are enjoying the "muscle car" era all over again.. only it's the motorcycles.. not the cars.. and we all know what happened in the 70's and 80's.. cars .. all cars basically sucked.   The only difference is it won't be gas mileage that kills us.. it will be the ungodly speeds they are capable of.  

I for 1 am VERY happy I got a 2001.. even though I'm pretty sure it's restricted.  (haven't tested it, but it was built late in 2001 so I figure it is)  Because in another few years I expect the hayabusa, zx12, blackbird to be considered the 3 fastest bikes EVER made, and ever to be made.


.. OH.. and I dont' think you should buy the Hayabusa.... "You'll put your eye out!"

I agree. My bike IS 19 years old. In 1984, it was the benchmark of sport bikes, the fastest, best handling production bike ever made. By today's standards, it's a slug. It's heavier than a BUSA, and the newer 600's make just as much, if not more hp than my 900! I want a BUSA! Sign me up! But even nowadays, folks differentiate between the 99 Busa and others, when asked what the fastest ever is. I don't think anybody will ever top the 1999 Hayabusa.

 

[monsterspeedfreak]

I agree. My bike IS 19 years old. In 1984, it was the benchmark of sport bikes, the fastest, best handling production bike ever made. By today's standards, it's a slug. It's heavier than a BUSA, and the newer 600's make just as much, if not more hp than my 900! I want a BUSA! Sign me up! But even nowadays, folks differentiate between the 99 Busa and others, when asked what the fastest ever is. I don't think anybody will ever top the 1999 Hayabusa.

Let me guess, you're on the original Ninja the 1984 900.
The ultimate bike for it's time, but you owe it to yourself to try the Bus.
They are the shi! !!!!!!!!!

 

[CorrodedAlien]

One thing to add... Even if you are "Experienced", go take the MSF Basic Rider course again.  You don't know how much you have forgotten.

I started on a 900 when I was 22 and am now pushing 40.  The Busa is the most powerful tool I've played with that stays on the ground.  (I've been in the Navy and Air Frce for 20+ years, the Busa is way cooler than the jet's I've messed with!)

Keep you head out of your azz and this bike will be you best friend.

 

[BulletTrain]

Ok guys im new and want to get a hayabusa. Im 18 and have looked at many dealers and they all treat like a kid who hasnt researched what i want at all and im just gonna get hurt. Ive ridden bikes since i can remembetr and have a 600 right now and this was going to be my graduation gift. So then the dealer calls my mom and tells her this isnt a bike for 18 year olds and proceeds to get her worked up about the entire situation so now it all relies on my dads opinions. What do you guys think, i mean my family will buy me a fox body 5.0 modded to all hell but not a stock bike that i wont go out and be an idiot on? I just dont understand, lend your thoughts

Ben

God, this sounds familiar! Wait, this was me several years ago!!! The only difference is that I wanted a Ninja ZX-11...

I'm not going to tell you what to do. Why not? Because I know what being told what to do at 18 does. You tell an 18 year old that they can't handle something or don't need it and they will have it or bust. It's pure ego, plain and simple. At 18 you are 10 feet tall and bullet proof and when someone tells you that you don't need, or can't handle something they have effectively thrown down the guantlet. An 18 year old just can't resist that kind of challenge.

What's my point with all of this? Hmmm... I'll say it like this. At 33 years old I now understand why my Dad didn't want me to have that ZX-11. He didn't stop me but he voiced his opinion. What stopped me was the insurance rates. I probably wouldn't be here today to type this if it hadn't been for that. Even though I thought I had enough sense to ride the big Ninja I realize now that I would probably have killed myself on it.

There is a saying that I use a lot when talking about a lot of the laws and regulations that the US Govt likes to impose on us. It goes like this... "You can't save an idiot from himself.". I think it's just as accurate to paraphrase that and say that you can't save a teenager from himself.

Understand that I'm not calling all teenagers idiots. In dealing with family squables as a cop I have seen pre-teens that had a better grip on things than their parents and most other adults I know have. However, just as all idiots have traits in common, so do all teenagers. The biggest common factor that comes to mind is a lack of LIFE EXPERIENCE. Think about that one...

Signed,

Bullet <~ Wonders if he's mature enough at 33 to own a busa... So far, so good...  

 

 

[Revlis]

Standard answer for this is,
"...This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Farewell; my blessing season this in thee!"

Good Old, Billy Shakespeare...

Basically, Do not fool yourself, or talk yourself into something you know may not be a good idea.  It's important for a lot of things, Drugs, drinking, yadda yadda.  But it applies quite well to buying a particular bike.  Know enough about yourself, your skills and abilities, your level of self control, to make the right decision, on your own, not what your buddies say, or your ego begs for.  Besides majority of young ladies will be just as impressed with a CBR600F4 as a Busa anyway...

Or...buy what you can insure...

 

[BulletTrain]

Besides majority of young ladies will be just as impressed with a CBR600F4 as a Busa anyway...

Hey, the F4i is a really interesting bike. I wouldn't mind havin' one.

 

[BulletTrain]

And don't even think it Rev! Any comments comparing me to a young lady'll get ya flogged!

 

[Bugsy]

Why not? But handle with extreme care.

 

[ndakbusa]

This is a very interesting thread, Ive seen it alot of places, whether or not a Hayabusa is a good first bike, am I old enough, whatever the situation, so heres my 3 pennies.

First bike: you're nutz

18 and wanting one: good luck finding insurance

I love squids, best supplier of spare parts!

I came up through the ranks of over 12 sportbikes, buying, tinkering, selling for a bit of a profit, paid cash for my 2000 Busa with profits made from fixing "squiderized" bikes, so I'm familiar with alot of the power curves, and Ive never felt anything accelerate as hard as the Busa. If you want it, buy it, if you're a squid, this bike will control your population. if you respect it, its a kick ass ride.

 

[chrispy]

Data point: I was 24 when I bought my ZX-11. I had been riding motorcycles for about four years by then, for more than 10,000 miles per year on average, and had taken the MSF course a couple of years before. I was fortunate to have been schooled by a rather conservative, safety-conscious group of riders by that point in my life, and it rubbed off on me.

It took me THREE WEEKS to gradually work up to cracking the throttle WFO, getting used to the new bike as I went. I always wore (and still wear) full safety gear every single time I rode (at that time that meant full-face helmet, leather jacket and chaps, steel-toed boots, and heavy leather gauntlets. Now it means full-faced helmet, armored Aerostich suit, steel-toed boots, and good leather gloves). After eight years and many good times, I traded the ZX-11 (with 61,000 miles on the clock) in for my Hayabusa.

Many have remarked to me about my ability to restrain myself, commenting that they'd surely lose their licenses if they bought such powerful motorcycles. I ride fast--within reason--but I pick and choose the times and places in which I do so, and I do not habitually overdrive my sightlines (I'm a twisty roads kind of guy, not a pure speed in a straight line kind of guy). I am always looking to improve my skills, and one of these days, I'll be taking C.L.A.S.S.

If you think you fit that description, then you might survive owning a Hayabusa at age 18. That said, a 'busa is a whole different dimension of power than your 600, and if you don't have much experience on the street in varying conditions of traffic and traction, then you'd do well to wait and get a few more years (and a few tens of thousands of miles) under your belt, just so that you have a mental memory built up of what to do when a particular brand of poop comes your way, without having to think about it. Things can happen so fast on a 'busa--unbelievably fast--and it's just prudent to have a well-developed skillset (and a well-developed sense of self-restraint) before you decide to partner up with one.

If all of that describes you, great. If it doesn't, then give it a few years. Be honest with yourself--this is your LIFE we're talking about. You owe it to yourself and to your loved ones to not damage or kill yourself out of sheer ego, or "kewlness," or what-have-you.

I highly encourage you, whatever you do, to always wear complete safety gear each and every time you ride--the pavement isn't any kinder when it's hot out than it is when it's cool, and most motorcycle injuries begin and end with massive skin loss--good gear will save you much agony.

And never, NEVER ride while drunk.

Good luck, whatever you decide.

 

[fstbusa]

busa was my first street bike.....had dirt bikes since I've been 8 yrs old....granted I'm a few yrs older than 18 but not many

 

[She-Busa]

Ok well lend your thoughts on this one... I am 17 year old female that has never ridden a bike or dirtbike and i haven't ridden a normal bike in awhile.
Parents say "well buy you anything" so i said "ok i want a hayabusa ... Motorcycle"
Parents: "NO! you can walk" well is it cus i am too young or what?

 

[Revlis]

Ok well lend your thoughts on this one... I am  17 year old female that has never ridden a bike or dirtbike and i haven't ridden a normal bike in awhile.
Parents say "well buy you anything" so i said "ok i want a hayabusa ... Motorcycle"
Parents: "NO! you can walk" well is it cus i am too young or what?

It's a real bad Idea to start with something the size and mass of the Hayabusa. It is something that you would want to wait a few years before getting on.

1st Take an MSF course, Motorcycle Safety Foundation. Let them teach you how to ride.

2nd If your bound and determined to get a Busa, First get a Katana 750 or a used Honda VFR 750. WHY? Because they are roughly the same weight as the Busa but without all the horsepower. They are fun Fast bikes, but are just a little less likely to get you in over your head before you even know it. Check into the New owners FAQ a little deeper and you will find a litany of reasons for not starting with a Busa. Give yourself some time, Learn how to handle big bikes, make certain you actually enjoy the sport first. Then buy a busa in a few years and I promise, you will be able to enjoy it a whole lot more.

Age is an important factor for insurance reasons anyway, trying to insure a Busa at 17 would be very difficult, even for a lady...

Good luck, and Before you do anything else take the Motorcycle Safety Foundations Beginners course. 17 years old is a great time to learn how and the Pro's at MSF will give you a solid foundation to work with. Not to mention that you will get to spend two days riding bikes.

Rev

 

[thrasherfox]

Ok well lend your thoughts on this one... I am  17 year old female that has never ridden a bike or dirtbike and i haven't ridden a normal bike in awhile.
Parents say "well buy you anything" so i said "ok i want a hayabusa ... Motorcycle"
Parents: "NO! you can walk" well is it cus i am too young or what?

She-Busa -

Please please please..

We get so many young people on here asking if they should buy a Busa as there first bike, and usually the general consensus us no.

Most of them get mad… Guess what, you are 17 and I am 41… you know what the difference is? I have 24 more years of experience on this planet than you do.

That is all that means, you are not a kid, nor a child, you are a human being that is just starting on the road of life experiences.

All of us humans pretty much start out the same way, when we are all young we have what is called the superman complex, we have not experience enough death around us, and most of us at a young age have not had many close calls, so the lack of experience kind of makes us feel like we are supermen / superwomen. That we are indestructible and nothing is going to hurt us.

As we all get older we each obtain more first hand experience of death, we lose family we lose friends we lose people we love and care about. Death becomes a real thing to us.

As we get older we begin to realize through personal experience that death can happen to us at any moment, that we have been living in a fantasy world.

So now when we each get to that point in our lives we then start to make conscious or unconscious decisions about our life, some of us decide life is more important, those people tend to back off the dangerous stuff and start to take life easy.

Then there are those as myself, who realize I am not invincible and if I take risks I stand the chance of screwing up and getting hurt real bad or killed. But I accept those risks, and we each have our own reasons for accepting those risks.

For me, I believe in God, I know for one I am not going to check out until God wants me to. For one, I am not going to walk around in life being afraid to die, 3 I have a good enough life insurance policy so if anything does happen, my family is taken care of.

I have made sure that I am at peace with my death and my family is taken care of in that event. I live life as I wish.

I am 41 and just yesterday I was tearing up the roads, high speed having a blast.

Sweety…. When people tell you at 17 that you should not get a Busa, it is not because we think we belong to some elite club and we don’t want anyone else to join, and it definitely isn’t because you are a female, if you read the boards most of the guys think chicks that ride Motorcycles are the poop, and if they ride a Busa OMG we are in heaven.

And if you did buy a Busa you would be welcomed with open arms.

We say no it is not a good idea because most of us are experienced riders, most of us are older and have been through what I previously described and we all know that statistically speaking the chances are if you have a Busa at 17 you will kill yourself.. no bullshit, serious as a heart attack, if you buy a Busa and ride it at 17, you will either sell it within 6 months because you wont be riding it to its potential, or if you do ride it to its potential you will probably crash it and maybe kill yourself.

We don’t want to see that. It seems like often we get newbies, young people saying they are going to buy a Busa, then they buy a Busa and then within a few months we never hear from them again? Why? Did they wreck it? Sell it? Chances are something bad happened, most people who get on this board and ride Busa's stay active on here to some extent.

Just like this post, this is along winded fricken post, if I didn’t care would I be wasting my time trying to explain it in a way to not offend you and try to make you listen?

Think about it.

Just as a closing note, the Busa is a fun arse motorcycle, nothing I have ever ridden compares.. I am 41 with no tickets on my record, an awesome job, good family but on a regular basis I find myself doing stupid things on the Busa, because I can and because it is fun, and so far, when I have had close calls I was able to get out of it because of the amount of years I have been riding.

Hope this helps She-Busa..


Ron



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[She-Busa]

Well thank you everyone I am now reconcidering a bike i am young and well i have many years in my furture but I will get one one day but untill then I'll stay in touch with everyone. I yet again wanted to say thankx!

 

[thrasherfox]

Well thank you everyone I am now reconcidering a bike i am young and well i have many years in my furture but I will get one one day but untill then I'll stay in touch with everyone. I yet again wanted to say thankx!

She-Busa.. yesh please stay in touch, stay an active member of the board, read the posts. You will learn alot. And the more you learn before you buy your first bike, even if it is a Busa, the better off you will be.

Ask questions, search posts, pick peoples brains.

Figure out what might be a better bike..

Someone around here has mentioned a Suzuki SV650, I guess it islike a half Busa, probbaly half the price, and half the insurance.. which is another thing to consider when buying a motorcycle, especially a BBusa, find out what you insurance is going to run you. depnding on your driving record, agge etc. you could spend anywhere from probably $400.00 a ytear to over $2500.00. Sometimes the cost of the insurance a deterining factor for someone not tp buy a Busa.

Stay involved, ask questions...

 

[frisbee]

Sorry a 10 second car is not NEAR as dangerous as a Busa . Judging by your comments I wouldn't let you get one ethier .

 

[TAZEONE]

if it was your money, then do what you want. but it's up to your moms.
are you too young? eh, if you were born on 2 wheels, burn rubber.

 

[FHL]

I'm 16 and my dad doesn't have any problem with my riding my 600 or even getting a Hayabusa and letting me ride it.

I'm an extremely safe rider, I am conservative with the revs and I always wear full gear: 1 piece race suit with armor, helmet, armored race gloves, and boots.

I don't think you're too young to have one, you just need to respect it and most of all wear your gear. Don't get stupid and think you can go on a 220mph run on the highway just cause Ghostrider does.

The worst thing you can do is speed so much on the highway and then try to outrun the cops, that'll only end with you dead.

 

[edouard_g]

dude,

If your are willing to cough up for the insurance at your age, then nothing will stop you getting one.

Although I'm with kawafaski, I sometimes find myself gigling in my lid like a damn fool, and I'm In my late 30's.

You will do "stupid" things on this bike, no matter what your age, so why wait? You have been warned.

eD