New Owner, New Biker, New Problems

Necro1300R

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Hi friends, I'm new to riding and new to owning a bike, specifically the Hayabusa. Please spare me your comments about a new rider on a Hayabusa. Admittedly, I wasn't really all that into motorcycles at first, but I stumbled across a couple of Youtube channels where riders cruised at leisurely speeds and enjoyed the sights. I really wanted to be a part of that, as car cruising is fun but not quite as engaging as I'd hope. I knew I wanted a sport bike because I like their aesthetic; I was going to let the Hayabusa be a dream bike until I got my feet wet with something smaller and more reasonable. That being said, I was in the market for a bike and this 'Busa happened to appear on the marketplace for an absolute steal of a price. That being said,

"It ran when parked."

And here I am with an $800 'Busa in the back of my truck. The owner didn't have a lot to say about it and quite frankly I didn't ask. What I know, is that it sat for years and he pulled it out from under a lean-to from behind a clutter of other small engine vehicles with two flat tires, a bunch of missing fairings, and a whole lot of history written all over it in the form of road rashes. I didn't want to buy brand new not for fear of dropping the bike, but I like working on things and wanted a bike I could wrench on before riding such that I could get 'closer' with it per se. The old adage of 'ran when parked' is a red flag for most but I indulged it 'cause I wanted to work on something and needed a hobby. Sure enough, I get it home, throw a battery and some fuel in it and it cranked right up and ran. Noticeable misfire, but nothing crazy. I could've, and in the eyes of some maybe should've left it like it was and had my fun with it. Unfortunately, I'm a bit slower in the head than that.

So what was wrong with the bike?
  1. The wiring harness was a mess, specifically from the harness to the fuel pump, as well as a few stray wires.
  2. There was an inline filter on the fuel hose, but the actual filter mod had not been performed.
  3. The kickstand sensor is zip-tied closed.
  4. Both tires are flat and dry-rotted.
  5. Needs an alignment
  6. Leaked oil all over the bed of my truck.
  7. Misfire.

First thing I did was a really hap-hazard job of rewiring the fuel pump that had been simply hardwired into the harness. That's right, they clipped out the harness that was there and hardwired the fuel pump directly into the main harness. I've chalked that up to paranormal crack-tivities. I don't know any reason other than drugs that you'd want to do that without any other notable modifications being done to the bike. My poor soldering and liberal use of soldering joints has held up thus far, but may be related to the problem. Second, replaced the fuel pump entirely and performed the filter bypass mod, opting to go with an inline filter outside of the tank. What cracked me up the most was seeing that the last guy had placed an inline filter in the bike without actually performing the drilling part of the mod. Interesting, but see my last explanation for such erratic behavior. So I performed the filter mod properly. Changed out the inline filter. In this time, I learned that my fuel pressure regulator is zip-tied in. At first, I wanted to dog on the poor guy for doing that to the fuel pressure regulator. I questioned why he'd do that when all it needed was a plastic piece. As it turns out, I couldn't find just the clip and a full on assembly is a couple hundred bucks. I'd never doubt his genius again. I quickly re-zip-tied the fuel pressure regulator back into place and further secured it with self-healing tape. Cool, with the pump replaced and re-wired, I figured I was done with that. I then changed fluids and gaskets. Simple task, save for smashing my fingers in-between the stator cover and the casing a couple times. This solved my oil leak issues. Up next, I ordered new tires to go on the bike. This quickly bloomed into ordering several new rims, because he used slime to patch previous issues with the old tires and left it to sit for years. Turns out, it'll eat the aluminum after some time. Naturally, I tried to go the cheap avenue via e-bay and got burned a couple of times with the rims that showed up (tragic, I know). Ended up replacing the rear dampers with a new set of rear dampers because ole boy was missing three and the three that were there were torn up and likely not worth a damn.

So what's the issue now?

Well, it all goes back to that misfire. With each start of the bike it became harder to start and ran worse. The last time I got it to run for any extended period of time, it idle very poorly and after a couple minutes of sitting idle the coolant boiled over before it died the moment I put it in gear.

Now it refuses to start without starting fluid and won't stay running.


Things I've done in an attempt to diagnose and resolve this:
  1. Changed the spark plugs
  2. Tested the ignition coils with a multi-meter. (Each coil was 1.6 and 12.56 with a .4 reduction due to meter resistance.)
  3. Checked fuel pressure before and after the inline filter. 48-52 psi before the filter, 44-46 psi after the filter.
  4. Double checked that all appropriate connections and lines are hooked up at the airbox.
  5. Checked that the fuel injectors were spraying.
  6. To my knowledge, it doesn't have any serious aftermarket mods like a power commander. I can't get into the back hump storage to actually take a look, but there's no extra wiring that I've seen at the ECU nor coils.
I don't know what the issue is and that's why I'm here, asking for help. If I had to guess, it's my injectors. I'll outright admit that my 'check' on the injectors was just that. I pulled them out of the bike but left them connected. I hit the starter to see if they would produce fuel and they did, but the streams looked kind of pitiful. I don't know what the spray pattern is but they looked like wispy, straight lines rather than what I expected to be a cone shaped spray. If I had to guess, they're clogged after years of sitting. I plan on checking compression soon. I'll be sure to let you guys know if that yields any notable results. Otherwise, feedback is welcome with regards to other diagnoses. 'Til then, I'll be praying it's 'an easy fix' as opposed to having to take the motor apart for any reason.
 
Welcome to the forum....

.................and...................whew...........you will have your work cut out for you getting this thing sorted out.

What year is the bike, how many miles.....and how long do you estimate it has sat?

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If I were to guess, all the crap that was in the fuel system has made its way into the filters and into the injectors..

I has been my experience that any machine that has sat for a long period of time with fuel still in it, always ends up with fueling issues, you are going to have to do a complete fuel system cleaning from injectors to fuel pump and everything in between.

Having the wiring butchered doesn't help either....it might be your best interest to source a complete stock wiring harness and re-do the entire bike to avoid future issues and perhaps having to be trailered home from somewhere or worse....

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When it was idling, did the fans kick in? And when it boiled over, what did the temp gauge read?
 
This^
and yes, the injectors likely need cleaned from sitting, connected to a battery and flushed with spray cleaner in both directions.

You can open the rear hump with a paint stirring stick.
If it's a 99-07 then the stick slides in from the rear, in the small gap under the hump, and the arm the latch cable connects too gets pushed left or right(I can't remember which, but it only goes one way).

As for the 'alignment', you will need the bike on a rear swimgarm stand, and a front stand that lifts under the lower triple clamp.
Loosen both forks in the triple-clamps, set their heights the same, measure with calipers from the top of the fork tube to the top of the upper triple-clamp(exact height varies and is insignificant at this point, 2mm to 5mm is fine for ballpark right now).
The upper and lower clamp should not rotate independently of each other.
If the triple-clamps and fork tubes are not straight, then one or more of them is bent, and will need replaced, that is all the lining up that you can do.

Once the bike runs well,
Brake and clutch fluid should also be changed and bled, as it absorbs moisture and breaks down over time, it should be done every 2 years, and by the sound of your bike's condition, it will need done as well.
The chain likely has tight links and should be replaced, sprockets too if they are worn, but tight chain links will wear sprockets faster, can break sprocket teeth, and worst case, cause the chain to come off.
The chain needs to be properly adjusted with you sitting on the bike.
If all of that is good, learn to set the suspension, front and rear, as it is adjustable by body weight, and makes a big difference in how the bike rides.

welcome to the org
 
Thanks for the replies thus far! Injectors will be the next move. It is an 05 and has 28,xxx miles on it. As far as the fan kicking on and temps go, I can't say. I don't recall the fan kicking on and I believe the temp gauge isn't operable. Once injectors are done and the bike runs I'll be able to get a more definitive answer. Until then, we'll leave that to simmer. Here are some photos of the project as it progresses....

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Those twist caps are what I lifted the fuel tank to see. They are no longer apart of the fuel pump's ecosystem.
 
Welcome to the .org! Looking at the pics, I would add the flushing of the radiator to everything that @Bumblebee and @sixpack577 posted. A bit concerned at your statement regarding the need for an alignment. What needs an alignment? If you are referring to the frame, that makes this a much more complicated endeavor.
Nothing frame related, thankfully. Coolant flush was performed with distilled water and it's running the blue stuff now. The old front tire looked slightly out of line with the handlebars, but that seems to have resolved itself with the new tire/wheel that was put on. Maybe my vision was a little more crooked then.

To answer a question I missed earlier, if I had to guess it had sat for a couple years at the minimum.
 
Nothing frame related, thankfully. Coolant flush was performed with distilled water and it's running the blue stuff now. The old front tire looked slightly out of line with the handlebars, but that seems to have resolved itself with the new tire/wheel that was put on. Maybe my vision was a little more crooked then.

To answer a question I missed earlier, if I had to guess it had sat for a couple years at the minimum.
That's good. Don't rush with the rebuild. The bike was clearly neglected and the refurbishment will be beneficial.
 
Nothing frame related, thankfully. Coolant flush was performed with distilled water and it's running the blue stuff now. The old front tire looked slightly out of line with the handlebars, but that seems to have resolved itself with the new tire/wheel that was put on. Maybe my vision was a little more crooked then.

To answer a question I missed earlier, if I had to guess it had sat for a couple years at the minimum.

Good, and for future flushes, add white vinegar to the distilled water, it acts as a cleaner and breaks up any old coolant scuz stuck anywhere in the system.
 
This is awesome I just did a lil project rebuild

Here’s a tip

Unplug the sensor in the radiator on the left side, put a paper clip or jump the terminals of the plug some way and turn the key on. Fan should come on if it works.

Next remove the sensor and plug it in, turn key on and hit sensor with a heat gun. Just the sensor, don’t melt the wires lol- Fan should come on when it’s hot enough.

Check alllllllll the hoses for holes.

New plugs, and new gas, and drain the oil, check for chunks, if u see any, drop the pan.

Make sure everything is plugged in, I see a f1 light.
 
Nice shop!

I'd like to find something to play with someday. Maybe a basket case Harley. I built up a car once. Spent more on the refurb than I would have buying a nice car. But it was awesome fun.

The 'Busa is crazy popular, so you can find parts for them.

Newer rider / fast bike? Well, they are fast. But. They have the torque of a tractor which makes riding them easy and fun. Just respect her and you'll do fine.
 
Nice shop!

I'd like to find something to play with someday. Maybe a basket case Harley. I built up a car once. Spent more on the refurb than I would have buying a nice car. But it was awesome fun.

The 'Busa is crazy popular, so you can find parts for them.

Newer rider / fast bike? Well, they are fast. But. They have the torque of a tractor which makes riding them easy and fun. Just respect her and you'll do fine.

Basket case Harley?
Just buy any Harley...wait a little while...and presto...there you have it!

lmao
 
This is awesome I just did a lil project rebuild

Here’s a tip

Unplug the sensor in the radiator on the left side, put a paper clip or jump the terminals of the plug some way and turn the key on. Fan should come on if it works.

Next remove the sensor and plug it in, turn key on and hit sensor with a heat gun. Just the sensor, don’t melt the wires lol- Fan should come on when it’s hot enough.

Check alllllllll the hoses for holes.

New plugs, and new gas, and drain the oil, check for chunks, if u see any, drop the pan.

Make sure everything is plugged in, I see a f1 light.
Much appreciated, I'll go ahead and do this when I get a chance. It'll spare me some strife, for sure. F1 light, though? Means it's ready to go fast, right?

Truly, it's just gonna be a sport-tour-er.
 
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