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But on the other hand I tend to trust him since he made the point to inform me of the mileage before we even started with the paperwork because he didn't want me freaking out afterwards. He was like "hey, just so you know the odo is showing 7 mile but that is not because of us, I'm telling you because you made it a big deal you did not want it joyridden" So I guess a few different scenarios could play out, the mechanic took it for a long ride and the salesman was covering for him and doing the role of damage control by warning me first so I don't put him on the defensive in front of customers, or the bike actually had those miles, or a salesperson joyrided it, but that would be seriously blatant to joyride the bike when you tell them it would obviously bother you. They seemed like supernice people and I would honestly be surprised if they did joyride it , f I would almost feel like a ##### pushing the 7 mile issue especially since I have to use them for warranty issues and whatnot.
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Mine too... They ride them and make sure everything is functioning, come back to the shop, make any needed adjustments and ride again. If all works well they then let it sit and idle until the fan comes on and they monitor the temperature. They make sure it's operating PROPERLY before they will turn it over to the customer, PERIOD. Personally I appreciate that. I have no problem with them putting a few miles on it and making sure it's "right" before I leave with it because it's about 50 miles one way to take it back if it's NOT right when I get home. And if I ride it home (like I prefer to do) I don't want to be stranded on the side of the road just because I didn't want them to ride my bike before I took it.
Oh, and as long as they let it warm up thoroughly first and don't crash it I'd prefer they flogged it on the test ride to give me a head start on my hard break-in.
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they have between 0-1.0 out od the crate the rest the shop put on. the last dealership I worked for we were required to put 3.2 miles on every bike. This is very important due to the TECH IF THE ARE GOOD can find something and correct it so you have a uneventful ride. ie chain adj, burping the coolant you know the stuff all the newbies complain about
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I wonder why he would lie about how many miles they put on...
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really watch them put oil in???mine had 2 tenths or something I think.. hell I watched em' put the oil in.. not quite as cool as coming outta the crate but close ya know.
watched the dude right it up the road.. bring it back and pull in beside me and said "it's all yours dude."
"THANK YOU!"
why you wanted it over filled?
they come full I never had to add one drop on any suzuki street bike out of the crate
7 Miles out of the crate?? LOL!
They never come out of the crate w/ 7 miles on them. Your salesman is a friggin liar. No biggie though. Just sucks that they cant be honest with you.
Johnny is right.
Road testing is common practice with any reputable dealer. If you get a bike w/ less then a mile on it, you should be concerned. I know I would be.
Anyways. If your happy and the bike is running well - good for you. Thats all that matters!
7 miles...... "It came that way outta the crate." "Honestly!" LOL! What a horse-toothed jackass!
They never come out of the crate w/ 7 miles on them. Your salesman is a friggin liar. No biggie though. Just sucks that they cant be honest with you.
Johnny is right.
Road testing is common practice with any reputable dealer. If you get a bike w/ less then a mile on it, you should be concerned. I know I would be.
Anyways. If your happy and the bike is running well - good for you. Thats all that matters!
7 miles...... "It came that way outta the crate." "Honestly!" LOL! What a horse-toothed jackass!
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You think I should go back and call him on it?
<--- had 1.8 miles on mine .. btw.. heres ( .50 ) ...start callin.
No need for all the "Dealer Conspiracy" stuff. Basically most dealers have all their new bikes test rode by a technician before it's handed over. So, depending on where the dealership is located and their test route milage will vary. I would be pretty damned spooked with a zero milage bike.
I watched mine being uncrated, then watched my mechanic take off down the road on her. It's a liability thing and something taken very seriously. I have not seen anyone "Joyriding" ANY bikes at the dealership. Romping on a new bike will quickly get you fired. They are serious about it.
Anyhoo, the route the mechanics take is about 5 miles I think. They take the same route most of the time, if it's raining they will shorten it a bit. But allmost all the bikes on the floor have 3-5 miles on em'
I watched mine being uncrated, then watched my mechanic take off down the road on her. It's a liability thing and something taken very seriously. I have not seen anyone "Joyriding" ANY bikes at the dealership. Romping on a new bike will quickly get you fired. They are serious about it.
Anyhoo, the route the mechanics take is about 5 miles I think. They take the same route most of the time, if it's raining they will shorten it a bit. But allmost all the bikes on the floor have 3-5 miles on em'
Rev ... ! Dealer Conspirancys ...keep the blogs alive !!!!! < just doin my part > ..but, your correct, most Dealership " technicians have to ride said ---> ( bike ) around to make sure everythings .. appropos .. Hell, I followed the " tech" around the short block he took ..testin mine .
Yeah, I actually have grown a lot less suspicious of the whole dealer network after working at a dealership for the last few months. The Sales process is still pretty gross and full of ignorant a$$-Hats, but the service guys (The actual Techs) are some real pros, riders themselves they really treat each bike as if it's there own. The parts guys do a pretty good job of making sure the customer gets what they want, sometimes we screw up nut for the most part we got it nailed. I feel much better about the shop after seeing how this dealership works.
Best advice is same as it's allways been for picking a shop though. Make certain it's clean, and talk to your mechanic before any work begins. Try to get around the Tech Writers though. Some of them are just hacks with no business behind the counter. It's best to talk to the mechanic personally if you can.
OH and try not to expect too much personal attention on Saturdays and between 11-1 and 5-7 PM M-Fri. During these peak hours its nearly impossible for us to spend the time we want with the customers.
Best advice is same as it's allways been for picking a shop though. Make certain it's clean, and talk to your mechanic before any work begins. Try to get around the Tech Writers though. Some of them are just hacks with no business behind the counter. It's best to talk to the mechanic personally if you can.
OH and try not to expect too much personal attention on Saturdays and between 11-1 and 5-7 PM M-Fri. During these peak hours its nearly impossible for us to spend the time we want with the customers.
Why? that would be a waste of your time.
There is nothing wrong with having 7 miles on the bike when you picked it up. The sales guy just doesn't know what he is talking about. The prep guys probably prepped the bike and checked it out and test rode it and the sales guy just doesn't know that they do this.
Don't worry about it just as long as the bike is running and performs to your satisfaction.
Yeah - that would be a waste of time.... Just give him that funny smirk everytime you go in, knowing full well that he's full of crap, you will always have the upper hand.
Its just weird. I'm a Sales Manager - I, for the most part, am brutally honest. After all - I'm from NY!! I believe in telling it like it is. Some people cant handle that ####. But it works for me. The Texans down here eat it up usually too. Some of them are backwardass-bumpkins that can't understand why I don't sugar coat crap. Its just not my nature.
I don't badmouth other bikes. I just can't do it. I educate the hell out of myself on the other product out there and just try to inform my buyer. If I lose one or two - well I just know that it was not meant to be and move on.
Its easier to say to a customer - "We had it set-up for another customer but it fell through" "The dealer let a customer try it out - but it fell through" "I had to try it for myself"
You would have still bought the bike. Even if they flogged the bike like Ricky Gadson on a funnybike - it would not have hurt the damn thing......
Naaaaa..... don't make a stink. Just take what 'that particular guy' says w/ a grain of salt. Some people are just full of ####!
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Its just weird. I'm a Sales Manager - I, for the most part, am brutally honest. After all - I'm from NY!! I believe in telling it like it is. Some people cant handle that ####. But it works for me. The Texans down here eat it up usually too. Some of them are backwardass-bumpkins that can't understand why I don't sugar coat crap. Its just not my nature.
I don't badmouth other bikes. I just can't do it. I educate the hell out of myself on the other product out there and just try to inform my buyer. If I lose one or two - well I just know that it was not meant to be and move on.
Its easier to say to a customer - "We had it set-up for another customer but it fell through" "The dealer let a customer try it out - but it fell through" "I had to try it for myself"
You would have still bought the bike. Even if they flogged the bike like Ricky Gadson on a funnybike - it would not have hurt the damn thing......
Naaaaa..... don't make a stink. Just take what 'that particular guy' says w/ a grain of salt. Some people are just full of ####!
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Thanks guys, I have a warm fuzzy...haha
Oh come on...who could resist taking a brand new Busa for a spin when no one's looking?!
Guy's probably been eyeing it for a while and figured he'd see if he wants one...
I'm kidding...I had 2 or 3 miles on mine...figured the guy that test rode mine was just skeered...
I'm kidding...I had 2 or 3 miles on mine...figured the guy that test rode mine was just skeered...
A customer of mine recently asked me to ride his brand new GSXR 600. He stated that he thought there might be a clicking noise at speed.
So I jumped on, took off like a bat outta hell right out of our driveway, rode out a 80 FT wheelie and hammered up through the gears.... i grinned and pulled back in - told the kid... "Its fine!" because it was - he just smiled - said thanks and was on his way. Now we ride together on Wednesday nights!
So I jumped on, took off like a bat outta hell right out of our driveway, rode out a 80 FT wheelie and hammered up through the gears.... i grinned and pulled back in - told the kid... "Its fine!" because it was - he just smiled - said thanks and was on his way. Now we ride together on Wednesday nights!
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It all boils down to the relationship you have, or would like to establish, with your dealership. I've been buying my bikes from the same place for over 10 years and know everyone on a first name basis. They know that I buy only from out of the crate with me watching as they assemble. I DO THE TEST drive myself (zero miles on odo) and if I think anything needs adjusting or whatever, I tell them BEFORE I sign the papers. The assembly guy here is 45 years old and really takes pride in his work. They don't even attempt to clean/detail the bikes I buy, I do all that myself.
Like stated above, if your bike seems OK, I'd forget about calling them on it; it did have zero miles out of the crate though, too bad they aren't honest enough to admit it.
Like stated above, if your bike seems OK, I'd forget about calling them on it; it did have zero miles out of the crate though, too bad they aren't honest enough to admit it.
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