Yeah, kinda like Iraq is going to pay for ALL our cost in their country by shipping us OIL
. So, when does the spicket get turned on 
People losing jobs and homes and then this.
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Yeah, kinda like Iraq is going to pay for ALL our cost in their country by shipping us OIL
. So, when does the spicket get turned on 
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I'm sure we'd all like to have Hamas for neighbors right across our border. These people will now be our best friends for helping them out, right? They'll love us, as soon as they slice our little infidel heads off.
Not sure when we decided our best strategy was to help our enemies.:drinka: I'm with Captain on this one.
Not sure when we decided our best strategy was to help our enemies.:drinka: I'm with Captain on this one.
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no worries , isreal will one way or another deal the fatal blow that will wake us all up . Just hold on a little while . It's coming and the rest will be destiny ! Get ready for the big party .
last time I checked........WE DO NEED IT. I'm the first guy to reach in my pocket when its empty and pull a dime out and help someone else. I've done it a few times here when other members have needed it.....but this is crazy.
We are in a recession and our gov't in sending money to other countries....to help them in their tough times.
I don't get it!
The article seems to indicate that the funds are going to prop up the non-Hamas segment of what little governance is there...the one we support...not the one that was democratically elected. This is nothing unusual. It's one of the ways America works to advance our agenda throughout the world. $900 billion over the next ten years may be far more cost effective than finding our troops in the middle of that mess. None of us, including myself, have to like that potential reality.
Anyone got any statistics on how much aid America gives to Israel? I haven't researched that one in depth, but I suspect it's substantial.
I still don't have enough knowledge or details about this particular aid package to the Palestinian Authority to intelligently decide whether this amount is excessive or not. This article seems to have been written more to incite the wrath of the average person in America, rather than provide enough information to make a rational decision regarding the true need for the aid. Such is what passes for journalism these days.
This has been an interesting topic to discuss. Thanks for sharing it Captain. It is philosophical questions that have been uncovered here that keep me coming back to see what's going on at "the .org".
Anyone got any statistics on how much aid America gives to Israel? I haven't researched that one in depth, but I suspect it's substantial.
I still don't have enough knowledge or details about this particular aid package to the Palestinian Authority to intelligently decide whether this amount is excessive or not. This article seems to have been written more to incite the wrath of the average person in America, rather than provide enough information to make a rational decision regarding the true need for the aid. Such is what passes for journalism these days.
This has been an interesting topic to discuss. Thanks for sharing it Captain. It is philosophical questions that have been uncovered here that keep me coming back to see what's going on at "the .org".
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we tried staying out of the worlds politics.....it did not work. google WWI and WWII for the results.
Now you may have a point that I can start to accept. That's IF this donation is actually going to prevent us from sending troops down the road or offers some bilateral effect on our safety...THEN it's not a bad investment. BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM we are not making many other wise financial moves right now so it's not likely this is going to be one either.
The conflict is much older. A man named Abraham gave birth to two boys, Ishmael and Issac. Ismael fathered the Arabs and Issac fathered the Israelis. The current incarnation of Israel was establishes in 1948 when the land was purchased from Great Britian after World War 2. The Arabs had been inhabiting the land now known as Israel and Palestine for 2000 years and believe it to belong to them, still. That belief coupled with sibling rivalry equals war.
When I joined the military I took an oath to protect the Constitution from enemies, foreign and domestic. If I have to I will remove the government and we can start over - where is that reset button?
Granted, I have over-simplified things but you get the point.
Last time I looked, Israel was our ally. Wouldn't that make their enemies our enemies? Maybe I just need to get back under my rock.
skoot over brother i'm coming in
I'm aware of the history of religion, but thanks for writing that for some who are not.
Thanks for your service.
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Last time I looked, Israel was our ally. Wouldn't that make their enemies our enemies? Maybe I just need to get back under my rock.
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As I wrote before, the Palestinian Authority, while not probably Israel's closest ally, is a much more rational bedfellow in the peace process than the alternative. Therefore the aid goes to the team we want to see in power...not the one that was democratically elected. It's hypocracy at it's finest, but what's new about our foreign policy?
Who's left whom I haven't replied to? Oh yeah...99'busa:
I agree with your skepticism and reluctance regarding spending money we don't have. That mentality would have served us well had it been present over the last decade or two.
Ah yes, "racism"...an excellent current buzzword along with Going Green and Chipotle.
Please post ALL the facts, such as:
"Tested welfare expenditures by federal and state governments amounted to roughly $384 billion in 1998. Of that sum, $212 billion--55 percent--went to white recipients. Some $105 billion--28 percent--went to black recipients, and $69 billion--17 percent--went to Hispanic recipients.
Aid to black and Hispanic welfare recipients is greater in proportion to the size of their populations than is aid to white recipients. This can be seen by determining the average welfare expenditure per person for each ethnic group.
As a group, the 207 million white residents in the U.S. population receive $212 billion in benefits. As a group, then, they receive some $1,022 per person in welfare aid.
There are some 30 million Hispanic residents in the U.S., and Hispanics as a group receive $69 billion in welfare, or roughly $2,210 per person. As a group, the 33 million black residents in the U.S. receive $105 billion in welfare aid, or roughly $3,230 per person".
Did the liberals also force conservatives to buy houses and rack up credit card debt they couldn't afford? For all the botards getting kicked to the curb, it seems to be equal opportunity for both sides.
IMO it's like the Ant and Grasshopper fable. The morons that had to have the upscale executive style house, Plasma TVs, all current game consoles, SUVs, latest cell phones ect. deserve to sink into the cold winter abyss. I guarantee they weren't all liberals either. It's always spend the pay check before you get it, wait in anticipation for the tax refund to buy toys and apply for more credit cards all while not having one damn dime in the bank. Hell, I've seen people in here jumping for joy because after trying and trying they finally managed to "GET APPROVED" for some high interest loan on a Hayabusa. A high dollar item that serves no useful purpose other than joyriding. No F'n priorities.
I feel bad for those who busted ass for 50+ years only to lose their pension and end up on a sh!tty fixed income with health problems. Now they get to choose between food, heating the house or medication. That's were that $900 million should be going!
Sorry but I care more about all the bad things going on in my country.
Very true but that applies to BOTH sides of the politcal coin. I also think things will need to get a lot worse before reality sinks in....then again seeing reality may not even be possible for current generations considering all the mind altering drugs they get shoved down their throats (Ritalin!).
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Can You Really Blame Israel? | Politics
this is going to turn into an ugly conflict. "Every time that Hamas fires there will be a more and more severe response," he told Channel 2 TV on Friday. "I really recommend all the Hamas leadership in Gaza not to try us again. ... Nobody is immune there, not Haniyeh and not anybody else."...
Some would call that statement pro Palestine. Defend Isreal at all cost is what we’ve always done so we have to keep doing it, right?
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