People on here that have rode Gen I and Gen II

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Just wanted to see, from experience is there a huge difference?? My biggest concern is handling. Honeslty i dont think there would be a huge difference other than cosmetic.

I do think the GEN I looks waaaay meaner though and heavier , in a way I like the fact that it looks bulkier.
 
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Put 36K on an '06 and have had the '08 for over a year now. Yes, there's a difference. Go for the Gen II :thumbsup:
 
I rode both and don't drink the kool-aid...

Chasis is virtually identical, engine has 15 extra horses (yawn)
(but to be fair, you can tell...it's just far from earthshaking)
brakes are better on the gen 1.5 but it's a more a testiment on how
inept suzuki was to even minor updates on their "flagship", and what
they really think of busa owners...they can't even update sucky breaks in
a decade.

You buy a Gen 1.5 for $13,000 or...
buy a pristine Gen 1 for 6-7,000 and have 6 or 7 grand for extras
like a turbo and tell everyone to kya and STILL have 3 grand left over.

7 grand for 15 hp...$2,000 a hp...hmmm???
4 grand for 75 hp...plus 3 grand for a full brembo system and/or ohlins shocks
or...

Yeah I know it's not all about hp...you get that lovely gen II tail :puke:


https://www.hayabusa.org/forum/general-bike-related-topics/115135-turbo-kit-group-buy-rcc.html
 
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i own gen one and have rode gen 2. like everyone else here i love both. but the gauges on the gen 2 are far superior. the brakes are better and its faster. the one i rode was pretty new and my gen 1 is an 07 with lots of mods and over 22k. with that in mind i will say the gen 2 just felt literally tighter. more precise.
you can't lose with either but i am looking to sell my gen one. and soon after doing some home improvements i will be getting a gen 2. at least that my plan
 
Any thought between the bikes performance needs to be quanitified by what you intend to do with the bike. I have rode a new Gen II and already own a modified 2001 Gen I. After my ride on the Gen II I was suitably impressed with it as a stock bike but it can not beat the performance that I have already achieved with the mods that I have done to the Gen I. Steel braided brake lines and race pads ( not too good for street use because of the long warm up time) front and rear solve the brake issue. My brakes actually take extreme abuse to show hint of fade. On the power end modded mufflers ( I am a pro welder) air box mod, Iridium plugs, synched throttle bodies, rerouted vacuum lines, TRE, PC with my own map ( smooth over all out power) and -1 front sprocket +2 rear. My bike cost less than $1,500 in mods over the years but will run canyons with some of the best liter bikes out there. I routinely embarrass GSXR-1000's, Duc 1098's, R-1's and even surprised 600 riders. Maybe the rider more than the bike in that one :whistle: The point is the Gen II bike has better fit and finish. It works better in a stock to stock comparison but if you intend to mod your bike then all bets are off. Gen II was just not worth the extra coin for me for what I do with my bike at this time but the future may see a Gen II drag bike in my garage:thumbsup:
 
I mostly see people saying Gen II, and a few grouchy Gen I owners saying a modded Gen I is better... well duh:duh: an modded anything is usually better than stock. I love my GenII and I'm having fun modding it to be the perfect bike for me. I personally prefer the Gen II but also love the look of the original. It's all what you want to do with it and how much you have to spend IMHO. Have fun ride safe and as long as you're happy who cares?:poke:
 
No doubt, the Gen II is superior in more ways than are ever mentioned.

Better cooling system
more power
better brakes
better spring rate
smoother
different sprockets to ease stress on the chain
drive mode selector (if you're into that sort of thing)
smoother transmission
comes with a windscreen that is similar to the double bubble
passenger pegs are better damped for vibes
less unsprung weight
better fuel injection, no need for a fast idle lever (it definitely starts better in the cold)
Plus many other things.

All of these little things, make for a nicer bike. Looking at horsepower numbers alone it may seem difficult to justify the extra cost. But if you start to add up these little things like coolant system upgrades, they get expensive quick.

I had no intention of giving up my gen I for a gen II, but my gen I overheated and cracked the head. It ended up being more economical to give it up and get a new one. I loved my gen I, but have no reservations in saying, if you can swing the finances, you need to get the gen II. :bowdown:
 
Justyntym said:
I rode both and don't drink the kool-aid...

Chasis is virtually identical, engine has 15 extra horses (yawn)
(but to be fair, you can tell...it's just far from earthshaking)
brakes are better on the gen 1.5 but it's a more a testiment on how
inept suzuki was to even minor updates on their "flagship", and what
they really think of busa owners...they can't even update sucky breaks in
a decade.

You buy a Gen 1.5 for $13,000 or...
buy a pristine Gen 1 for 6-7,000 and have 6 or 7 grand for extras
like a turbo and tell everyone to kya and STILL have 3 grand left over.

7 grand for 15 hp...$2,000 a hp...hmmm???
4 grand for 75 hp...plus 3 grand for a full brembo system and/or ohlins shocks
or...

Yeah I know it's not all about hp...you get that lovely gen II tail :puke:


https://www.hayabusa.org/forum/general-bike-related-topics/115135-turbo-kit-group-buy-rcc.html
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damn straight

bench
 
jetsetter said:
No doubt, the Gen II is superior in more ways than are ever mentioned.

Better cooling system
more power
better brakes
better spring rate
smoother
different sprockets to ease stress on the chain
drive mode selector (if you're into that sort of thing)
smoother transmission
comes with a windscreen that is similar to the double bubble
passenger pegs are better damped for vibes
less unsprung weight
better fuel injection, no need for a fast idle lever (it definitely starts better in the cold)
Plus many other things.

All of these little things, make for a nicer bike. Looking at horsepower numbers alone it may seem difficult to justify the extra cost. But if you start to add up these little things like coolant system upgrades, they get expensive quick.

I had no intention of giving up my gen I for a gen II, but my gen I overheated and cracked the head. It ended up being more economical to give it up and get a new one. I loved my gen I, but have no reservations in saying, if you can swing the finances, you need to get the gen II. :bowdown:
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Passenger pegs, cooling system, and drive mode selector...???
your reaching...



Imagine the bike that isn't...
All new lighter stronger frame (they do it on gsxr every 2 stinking years) where
the bike actually weighs less but will handle more power. Moving the motor
foreward to reduce wheelie issues.

A 200 rwhp stock motor, 1400+ cc. Smoother and get rid of that annoying 4500
rpm buzz.

Brakes that are actually at least as good as the 14.

Real traction control to handle the extra hp (see BMW, honda, or Ducati) or
actually come up with your own instead of the generic weenie button.

I certainly think that after a decade the busa faithfull have paid for the R&D and
the retooling. The current warming over was just plain CHEAP.

Maybe if that were the bike we wouldn't read stories of how Suzuki's "flagship"
gets walked by GSX1000R or ZX10s or 14s. After 10 years...they shoulda done more.

The "flagship" should be no freaking contest period kill the flea with a sledgehammer.
 
Hello to you,

I have a gen1(2004) and a gen2(2008).
They are not the same.
As much as I love my 04, the 08 is what I find myself riding.
Properly tuned, the 08 is much stronger, the brakes are much better, the handling is crisper. Just they way it is. Most females that express an opinion like the 04's looks.
Oh well :)

2busas.jpg
 
I own both a Gen1 ('03) and a Gen2 ('08)...Gen2 is by far the better bike :thumbsup:
 
Justyntym said:
Passenger pegs, cooling system, and drive mode selector...???
your reaching...



Imagine the bike that isn't...
All new lighter stronger frame (they do it on gsxr every 2 stinking years) where
the bike actually weighs less but will handle more power. Moving the motor
foreward to reduce wheelie issues.

A 200 rwhp stock motor, 1400+ cc. Smoother and get rid of that annoying 4500
rpm buzz.

Brakes that are actually at least as good as the 14.

Real traction control to handle the extra hp (see BMW, honda, or Ducati) or
actually come up with your own instead of the generic weenie button.

I certainly think that after a decade the busa faithfull have paid for the R&D and
the retooling. The current warming over was just plain CHEAP.

Maybe if that were the bike we wouldn't read stories of how Suzuki's "flagship"
gets walked by GSX1000R or ZX10s or 14s. After 10 years...they shoulda done more.

The "flagship" should be no freaking contest period kill the flea with a sledgehammer.
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I thnik you forget the orginal purpose of the two bikes, of course they lighten and give more horse power to the 1k, its the flagship race bike. The Busa is not, its a sport touring/hypersport. I mean until the 14 was introduced what comp did they have. I think now you will see improvements similar to other models, maybe not every 2 years, but I dont see the bike going another 10 without any tweeks.
 
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