Pit Bulls are not ALL bad!

[2hip]

Shannon...that last picture of your Pit Bull putting a sleeper hold on the little dog should be fair warning to you of its viscious nature
first pic of Maximus conked out...second pic...Max at full attack on the vacumn...any burglers to our house would be well informed not to have their vacumns on when they enter our house last picture...Max being confounded by a springy Great Dane.. Shannon..we love our dogs...da? 2hip

 

[Supergank1]

i`ll stick with my boxers...

 

[CaBusaGirl]

i`ll stick with my boxers...

Boxers are great dogs. My parents had boxers growing up. They have about the same mentality as my bullies.

 

[skydivr]

I agree with you 100%. We have taken precautions due to the breed's of my choice. My guy's are not allowed to have squeaky toys (don't want them getting excited when they hear squeals ie. small pets or children) and they are not allowed to play tug of war (getting what they want with their mouth.) Our dogs are well socialized and very obedient. I never tell anyone that they are harmless because they are not. They DO posses the power to hurt someone. But that's where training, respect and responsibility for the breed comes in.

I applaud you for recognizing and take necessary precautions. BUT, for everyone one of YOU, there are about a thousand that don't recognize the danger, and don't train/watch/guard their dog(s) properly.

 

[Mr Brown]

Which would be too late. Think how would you feel if your child was attacked and maybe killed or permanently disfigured. My dachshund has the heart of a lion, and would bite if aggravated, but he probably can't kill anyone.

Getting a little off the subject of the thread admittedly.

Of course I would feel horrible if my dog attacked my or any other child. The point of this thread, the point of my response is to pass along the knowledge that any large dog can be dangerous, and that the bully breeds are not any more or less dangerous due to breed. This is a lie that has been perpetrated by the media to sensationalize tragedy, as they always do.
Suppose people were to want to eradicate sportbikes: Since your Busa is capable of 186 mph (except we will wildly exaggerate it as they do with dogs, locking jaws, 1400psi bites etc) so it's now capable of 300 mph, we want you to surrender it to the scrapyard to be crushed. You kid has a mini-bike, decked out in full fairings sportbike style. Since it LOOKS the same as your Busa to us, (we don't bother to check and see if it's actually the same kind, looks are enough) it too will be surrendered. Your wife has a Bandit 1200. Since it came from the same factory as your killer Busa, it too will be destroyed. That old CB750F in your garage? That's gone too, since it has the same motor layout it must be one of those killer Busas also.....

 

[Mr Brown]

I applaud you for recognizing and take necessary precautions. BUT, for everyone one of YOU, there are about a thousand that don't recognize the danger, and don't train/watch/guard their dog(s) properly.

That's like saying the MAJORITY of sportbike owners, or gun owners are careless and irresponsible. The huge majority of bully breed owners are responsible, intelligent, watchful people. Just like with cops, it's the few bad apples that get spotlighted in the media and taint the entire barrel...
If you are dead set in your beliefs that all "pitbulls" are bad dogs, nothing I can do will change that. The bully breeds themselves are their own best ambassadors. Spend some time at your local pound with some, you will see what I mean.

 

[m_ridgeway]

That's like saying the MAJORITY of sportbike owners, or gun owners are careless and irresponsible. The huge majority of bully breed owners are responsible, intelligent, watchful people. Just like with cops, it's the few bad apples that get spotlighted in the media and taint the entire barrel...
If you are dead set in your beliefs that all "pitbulls" are bad dogs, nothing I can do will change that. The bully breeds themselves are their own best ambassadors. Spend some time at your local pound with some, you will see what I mean.

I understand what your saying but the actions of a sportbike or gun are the direct reaction of the user. If you come in my garage my bike's not gonna jump up and run you over or my gun not gonna come out of the safe and shoot on its own.
Like I said before I belive you should be able to own whatever. Just realize the danger they posses and think about the trouble you'll be in if it does bite someone and is provoked. You'll be in deep shid just because its a pit. Which isn't right.
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[Mr Brown]

The actions of a dog are a direct result of its owner, just like that of a gun or bike. If you neglect the dog, or worse encourage aggressive behavior bad things can happen. Just as a person handling a gun or riding a bike without proper precautions, knowledge and respect. I understand what you mean, my point is that the breed isn't any more or less dangerous than any other dog of equivalent size.

 

[ike]

Certain people shouldn't even have dogs PERIOD. If you raised a dog of ANY BREED and it one day accidentally attacks a human or animal, I could tell you this. YOU DID NOT PROPERLY TRAIN OR SOCIALIZE YOUR DOGS IN THE 1ST PLACE. I've had pits,Argentine dogo's and other breeds that would NEVER BITE ANYTHING BY MISTAKE. WHY? Because I trained and socialized them correctly. I'm sure there are people out there that know what I'm talking about, people out there that shouldn't own dogs of this breed type and people out there that shouldn't even own a dog.

 

[2hip]

Mr Brown, I agree in general with you that a dog's behavior can be directly influenced by how it is treated. However, there have been certain breeds associated with attacks on children where there wasn't abuse of the dog...I can't remember which post here..hit it on the head...with maybe the child provoking the dog by looking directly in the dog's eyes...and the dog perceiving it as a challenge...then the dog's behavorial instincts kicking in once the child is screaming and thrashing about...I am a dog lover and personally feel they are God's gift to mankind and womankind..Every pit bull I have ever had contact with was just a big lump of love...but I know that there have been situations where children have been severly maimed or killed and it they weren't abused dogs...something just set them off...and I don't subscribe to revisionist theories...I wouldn't hesitate for a second to own a pitbull..they are beautiful, sleek, so athletic, and interesting personalities...but that's just me. My German Shephard can snap a pork rib bone in two with almost no effort...His molars in the back are like industrial tin shears. He is 100 lbs and I trust him more than I do my wife when she is cutting my hair with sissors2hip

 

[Mr Brown]

Ike, agreed 100%
2hip, kids have been attacked, killed and maimed by all breeds of large dogs. Kid here in town was attacked by his parents shepherd. Did a lot of damage, kid still has scars. Tragic situation, but you didn't see police officers being called upon to have their dogs destroyed after it....
Any dominant dog will feel threatened by a child or adult looking into its eyes. Proper training eliminates the dominance.

 

[mjrfd99]

Remember The Little Rascals and their viscous attack dog?

Petey musta been the greatest kid loving dog that ever walked this earth.

 

[ike]

Ike, agreed 100%
2hip, kids have been attacked, killed and maimed by all breeds of large dogs. Kid here in town was attacked by his parents shepherd. Did a lot of damage, kid still has scars. Tragic situation, but you didn't see police officers being called upon to have their dogs destroyed after it....
Any dominant dog will feel threatened by a child or adult looking into its eyes. Proper training eliminates the dominance.

As Mr Brown said. "Proper training eliminates the dominance."

 

[slngshott]

I have been around Pits and Rotties my whole life and they are great dogs. Its the idiots raising them badly that give them a bad name. They should look at the owner when you hear about the bad ones its all in how they are brought up.

 

[m_ridgeway]

So can a tiger or bear be trained? Or is it bad owners that get attacked. Just like the bear in the movie with will ferrel. It killed its owner. Or the snake that tried to eat and succesfully killed a baby. To deny an animal posses's a trait to attack because its been trained well is an oversight and denial.
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[Goatkart]

a pit bull i can understand as a pet... but a cat... ewwwwwww..

 

[Mr Brown]

So can a tiger or bear be trained? Or is it bad owners that get attacked. Just like the bear in the movie with will ferrel. It killed its owner. Or the snake that tried to eat and succesfully killed a baby. To deny an animal posses's a trait to attack because its been trained well is an oversight and denial.
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Tigers and bears (and lions oh my....) are wild animals, not ones that have been domesticated for centuries. Apples and oranges my friend.....

 

[ibified]

mattstang: flawed logic in your part. Sorry. While it IS natural instinct for a tiger or a bear to eat animals that are human size, and it IS instinct that tells a snake that a baby is good food, it is NOT instinctual behaviour for a dog to eat a human.

 

[m_ridgeway]

So a domestic dog cannot survive in the wild? Why because it has a cute face?

Most animals that are used in movies and as pets are not from wild they've been bred captively and lived captively their whole life, interacting with humans and everything.

Animals are animals folks. Just as humans still posses a nature to fight destroy breed and etc. Even humans turn on their own family. Your dog posses the same potential. Just something a lot of people can't come to terms with.
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[ibified]

Domesticated dogs would be fine in the wild. But, as was said, theres a HUGE difference in captive-raising a wild animal and a dog which has been domesticated by humans for centuries.