si-lo
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My thoughts exactly.
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My thoughts exactly.
Not saying I would go without a lid but why do some people ride Busas and some ZX14s and others Harleys? Why do some not ride at all? The answer is personal choice! Right wrong or indifferent it is THEIR choice. Maybe not the smartest but theirs none the less.
Who decided they should have a choice? Oh, I forgot about the idiot train.
Their are so many riding the "idiot train" it is standing room only and they have to add cars every day.
The idiot train is pulled by the tax payer engine, some day it will blow up under the extreme load of the idiots it is required to carry. It looks like that day is very near..
Sorry about the sarcasm.... it is what it is.
The argument about it is my choice not to wear a seat belt went away................ same thing, when enough bodies pile up... the my choice not to wear a helmet will go away...
MelodicMetalGod
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FYI: Please take this as the friendly advice that it is.
Well, I have to say, it sounds like they weren't hard but you were out of compliance. Of the three things you mention, it sounds like they did nothing more than hold you accountable to what we all know to be the rules:
1) Shades up: I assume the ticket was for lack of eye protection. Perfectly valid. I won't even go into the "you should wear a helmet littany".
2) Talking to girls: I assume this was for the distraction from driving aspect of the scenario b/c talking to girls at Daytona shouldn't be, in and of itself, a crime. We complain all day everyday about cagers that aren't focused on driving, why should we not hold ourselves to the same standard?
3) No insurance/no proof of insurance: If it's required where you're riding, then you need to have it. Again, they're just holding you accountable.
4) Alternative plate mounting: Once again, this is cut and dry. If it's law to mount the plate in a certain manner and you decide to do otherwise, you can't blame it on the cops when they call you on it.
By behaving as above, you've not only given the cops perfect reason to pull you over and/or ticket you, you've furthered the stereotype that they use to villainize all riders and you've put yourself at greater risk for loss of control, injury to youself and others and financial devastation to yourself and others.
We all understand how easy it is to get caught up in the fun side of riding, but what you must also understand is that riding always carries risks that must be managed. There is always a risk of loss of control which leads to a risk of injury which leads to risk of losing the right to ride through anti-motorcycle legislation which leads to uniting the general public AGAINST bikes and riders and increasing the chance that our sport will simply be outlawed.
Ride, but be safe and ride smart.
MelodicMetalGod
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Who decided they should have a choice? Oh, I forgot about the idiot train.
Their are so many riding the "idiot train" it is standing room only and they have to add cars every day.
The idiot train is pulled by the tax payer engine, some day it will blow up under the extreme load of the idiots it is required to carry. It looks like that day is very near..
Sorry about the sarcasm.... it is what it is.
The argument about it is my choice not to wear a seat belt went away................ same thing, when enough bodies pile up... the my choice not to wear a helmet will go away...
With your permission, I'll be using the Idiot Train analagy.
As far as bodies piling up removing the choice to not wear a helmet, I don't think so. Last I read, less than 2% of the US population rides. They'll just outlaw riding altogether. There are already communities throughout the country, including NYC, Denver, Myrtle Beach, etc...that are creating laws specifically designed to make it difficult to ride within the law.
If we wanna keep riding, we gotta be smart about it. In fact, we could take a lead from the motorcycle industry and the voluntary top speed limiting that they started almost a decade ago after the Hayabusa became the top speed king. The industry read the writing on the wall and realized that if they didn't chill on their own a little, then the government was gonna FORCE them to chill a LOT. They did the smart thing we're all riding Hayabusa's thanks to that choice.
If our community doesn't get smarter soon, we'll be racing on foot. And if ya think wearing a helmet on your bike is a pain, wait until you're in full gear trying to do the 40 yard dash.
Who decided they should have a choice? Oh, I forgot about the idiot train.
Their are so many riding the "idiot train" it is standing room only and they have to add cars every day.
The idiot train is pulled by the tax payer engine, some day it will blow up under the extreme load of the idiots it is required to carry. It looks like that day is very near..
Sorry about the sarcasm.... it is what it is.
The argument about it is my choice not to wear a seat belt went away................ same thing, when enough bodies pile up... the my choice not to wear a helmet will go away...
I agree with you completely but my point was until that time comes it IS a personal choice. We as the peer group have the responsibility to try and lead those we can in the most sensible and safest direction but that will never happen by calling them idiots or stupid. That immediately closes any avenue of communication. There are better ways to get the point across than sarcasm and degradation. Of course that is only my opinion and that as well may go away someday!!
badazgtp
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Being, military, I have no choice in not wearing a helmet. Could I get away with it if I didn't, yes. But, if something happened while riding, that would be my @$$. I don't care if I am only going around the corner, I am always in full gear. Like said many of times, it's not our riding that we have to look out for, it's all the other people on the road that don't know what they're doing.
That was supposed to be funny, now your ruining it for me... lighten up ....
helmet or no helmet... it is their choice.....
TallTom
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I'll offer this as to a why. If you have never been to Daytona Bikeweek let me explain the atmosphere. Once you get into the main gathering parts (Speedway) (Main St) etc., you will hardly ever get out of first gear or go over about 8 MPH. It is basically stop and go mostly stop.....for a LONG LONG time. Now compound that with some 100,000 bikes generating heat and an ambient temp well into 70s or 80s and you start to cook. I can fall down from running with more energy than I can by falling of my bike. It gets FRAKIN HOT inside that helmet in these conditions. I wear mine to the gathering places and then keep it on my helmet hook while in those areas and then back on once clear.
While I completly support the use of gear, I will openly say that I will take my chances on injury before I subject myself to cooking for hours in a helmet in those circumstances. Bikweek is supposed to be fun, a helmet in these conditions IS NOT!
As to the other post re: Bikeweek and the cops. It has become clear that Daytona does NOT want Bikeweek to take place there. They are trying to shift it to Rossmeyer's Desitination Daytona location in Ormond Beach. My opionion of that is, while it is a great location, it is far too small to accomodate the numbers that come to enjoy bikeweek.
But for Daytona until it goes "somwhere else besides here" the hassling and the tickets etc will only continue. They have eliminated Black College Week, they are trying just as hard to uninvite the Spring Breakers as well. Soon it will be a NASCAR only venue, because that is where the money is at for them. Over $150 just to get into the infield then untolds more to actually be able to do anything once there.
I went up this year (an hour drive for me). Attendance was HUGELY down. Demo rides were impossible unless you were willing to devote a whole day to ride a bike, no more nudity, prices are outrageous. I stayed there about 4 hours total and drove home. I'll take a Poker Run anyday of the week to Daytona now.
As said above, wear a helmet and no insurance is required. Off with the helmet and you must have personal injury insurance.???
Rayabusa0818
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I've never had a problem in Florida...
Rayabusa0818
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May be hard to swallow but all are excellent points and had these rules been followed as outlined, you would still have that hundred beans you gave to FL on your trip.
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