Port operations to the arabs ????

[SAMBUSA]

To be fair...
Yes, most Americans think the average Arab or Muslim types are possible terrorists.

It's human nature...
But can you really say that most Arab or Muslim types don't think the average American is an Infidel or Capitolist pig.

People all over the world tend to stereotype...
Right or wrong, that's life.

I try to get to know people before I judge them, but I am not perfect and do tend to judge some books by their cover before I really know them...

And if I'm wrong, I might have lost what could have been a good friend and ally...

David

yes.. you are right.. most people do.. its unfortunate.. but that is life.. almost everyone does (if not everyone).. the trick is catching yourself and stoping yourself from sterotyping that is hard..  i have been sterotyped before many times.. people look at me, then i talk. sometimes they do a double look.. like what.. i have a southern draw.. i was raised in Tennessee.. so its funny seeing an arab with a southern accent.  they are like what..  something aint right here...  

i think it might be just the fact that people are different..  i just moved to detroit.. 82 percent African American.. at first i was overwhelmed because i have never lived in city that is majority African American.. now.. no problem... sometimes we get scared or go into defensive mode when we see people act/look different from us..

thanks everyone!! i really like this forum.. and appreciate everyones open mindness.

I wonder how differently you would be treated by the members of this board if they would have ran into you and didn't know you were kkattan.

The problem with Americans, or even the world population for that matter, is that they only believe what they hear from the media. They don't take the time to investigate things for themselves. They don't take time to read the Qur'an. They only listen to the media about what it says. I read the Qur'an. And anyone who does, will understand that the terrorists who state that they are following their religious beliefs is full of crap.

 

[kkattan]

To be fair...
Yes, most Americans think the average Arab or Muslim types are possible terrorists.

It's human nature...
But can you really say that most Arab or Muslim types don't think the average American is an Infidel or Capitolist pig.

People all over the world tend to stereotype...
Right or wrong, that's life.

I try to get to know people before I judge them, but I am not perfect and do tend to judge some books by their cover before I really know them...

And if I'm wrong, I might have lost what could have been a good friend and ally...

David

yes.. you are right.. most people do.. its unfortunate.. but that is life.. almost everyone does (if not everyone).. the trick is catching yourself and stoping yourself from sterotyping that is hard..  i have been sterotyped before many times.. people look at me, then i talk. sometimes they do a double look.. like what.. i have a southern draw.. i was raised in Tennessee.. so its funny seeing an arab with a southern accent.  they are like what..  something aint right here...  

i think it might be just the fact that people are different..  i just moved to detroit.. 82 percent African American.. at first i was overwhelmed because i have never lived in city that is majority African American.. now.. no problem... sometimes we get scared or go into defensive mode when we see people act/look different from us..

thanks everyone!! i really like this forum.. and appreciate everyones open mindness.

I wonder how differently you would be treated by the members of this board if they would have ran into you and didn't know you were kkattan.

The problem with Americans, or even the world population for that matter, is that they only believe what they hear from the media.  They don't take the time to investigate things for themselves.  They don't take time to read the Qur'an.  They only listen to the media about what it says.  I read the Qur'an.  And anyone who does, will understand that the terrorists who state that they are following their religious beliefs is full of crap.

you are right.. Terrorist and Muslims is an oxymoran..

hope all extremeist wake up some day.. and see what harm they really are doing.

 

[BusaSamurai]

okay.. keep in mind i am arab.. and i am muslim... okay, with that out of the way..

i kind of laughed when i heard about the port renting out.. but i can tell you , UAE is one of the richest countries in the world.. just ask NitrousJunkie.

MOney must be a huge deal in this thing..

i have been to United Arab Emirates several times..
i can tell you this from what i have seen.. the UAE does not tolerate extrimist of any kind.. the government does not support Extremist or the Taliban or Al-Qaeda.. etc..
i know the media may say something different, but this is what i believe..  what the media is failing to tell you is yes, maybe individual people there.. some very very very rich.. are supporting Al-qaeda.. etc.. terrorist through back doors.. yes i believe that is happening or can easily happen..

i have said this many times.. not all muslims are terrorist and not all terrorist are muslims.. in fact, in reality, you can not be a terrorist and be a muslim.. it goes against the whole principle of islam.. just a lot of misguided and brainwashed people.

back to the port thing.. if they are allowed to hire their own UAE port guards.. that is very risky.. because, yeah mabye some of these guards could also be brain washed..

bottom line.. UAE is very rich and getting richer.. getting ready to build the tallest towers in the world. unbelievable the amount of riches there... my father works there.. so i visit every so often.. so my guess the money bought out over the security risk.

sorry for the huge long post..and i know this can go in a bad direction and get deleted.. i hope not.. not tryiing to start anyhting here.. but i think some people here United "Arab" Emirates.. and so ohh crap.. another Arab.. its nothing like any other Arab nation there..  i cant imagine our security improving with this deall. unless we get gobs of money and throw it at improving the coast guard etc...

sorry if anyone is offended..

I have nothing against UAI i dont know for sure but have heard that the kuran or however you spell it is widely misinterpreted for differant peoples belief wants or needs.. My feeling is nothing against anybody in here or anywhere . But i would rather we as a people of the united states stop selling our country to everyone else.. Its bad enough that some countries can import goods to us and sell for profit but we cannot to them.. double standerd in alot of stuff .. Maybe i am selfish or wrong but that is how I feel . And until somebody can explain the good that we can get out of it my mind will not change..

 

[SAMBUSA]

okay.. keep in mind i am arab.. and i am muslim... okay, with that out of the way..

i kind of laughed when i heard about the port renting out.. but i can tell you , UAE is one of the richest countries in the world.. just ask NitrousJunkie.

MOney must be a huge deal in this thing..

i have been to United Arab Emirates several times..
i can tell you this from what i have seen.. the UAE does not tolerate extrimist of any kind.. the government does not support Extremist or the Taliban or Al-Qaeda.. etc..
i know the media may say something different, but this is what i believe..  what the media is failing to tell you is yes, maybe individual people there.. some very very very rich.. are supporting Al-qaeda.. etc.. terrorist through back doors.. yes i believe that is happening or can easily happen..

i have said this many times.. not all muslims are terrorist and not all terrorist are muslims.. in fact, in reality, you can not be a terrorist and be a muslim.. it goes against the whole principle of islam.. just a lot of misguided and brainwashed people.

back to the port thing.. if they are allowed to hire their own UAE port guards.. that is very risky.. because, yeah mabye some of these guards could also be brain washed..

bottom line.. UAE is very rich and getting richer.. getting ready to build the tallest towers in the world. unbelievable the amount of riches there... my father works there.. so i visit every so often.. so my guess the money bought out over the security risk.

sorry for the huge long post..and i know this can go in a bad direction and get deleted.. i hope not.. not tryiing to start anyhting here.. but i think some people here United "Arab" Emirates.. and so ohh crap.. another Arab.. its nothing like any other Arab nation there..  i cant imagine our security improving with this deall. unless we get gobs of money and throw it at improving the coast guard etc...

sorry if anyone is offended..

Kinda funny that you are an Arab from Detroit. I have said for years that Detroit is the Arab capitol of the U.S.

 

[DaCol.]

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer......

I believe that one of two things could be taking place.

1. Bush is forcing the issue with congress just to make them take a stance. He has proven time and time again he doesnt care about what people think about him but the end result.
2. We still hold the security of the port and so who manages it is irrelevant. We still have complete authority over the ports so its not like we are giving land away. It also serves as a reminder to the rest of the world that we don't hate arabs or Muslims just extremist..

Cap

I agree with ya except on one thing. WHY is any Foreign Company running OUR Ports  

. Maybe now I understand why we can't control the Mexican Border, some Foreign Company is Patroling that, maybe a Mexican Company  

 

[soon2be]

kkattan

As mentioned in my earlier post, no offense meant to anyone.  I have not had the pleasure to discuss this topic with someone from a middle eastern background.  I just want to say that, I for one, do appreciate the comments and insight coming from your perspective.  Last but not least, I would like to say...



<span style='color:blue'><span style='font-size:15pt;line-height:100%'>This is one helleva board  </span></span>

 

[frisbee]

I think that we have enough people here that need jobs !!!!!!! Why give them away to any other country period?

 

[A'Busa'd]

I think it's a clever political move. He knows that it won't be supported, but he shows his intentions to the UAE. He's thinking of life after the presidency. Veto? No way. He'll cave.

Not all that different from the last Supreme Court nominations in my view. I think Harriet Myers was a "sacrificial lamb" who was put out there to make his REAL choice, Alito, look good.

I don't agree with much of his politics, but I think he is a pretty savvy guy.

 

[Over_Easy]

Arabs, in general, aren't the problem.  I understand the heartburn towards them and I'm not saying that they are my favorite nationality.  But, I don't think that just because some Arabs hate Americans doesn't mean that we cut off all ties to the Arab world.

If it was Ireland that we invaded, would you feel the same way about the Irish?

Arabic is not a nationality. It is an ethnicity.

 

[Over_Easy]

I'm wondering if Bush is doing this only because he knows Dems will automatically oppose anything he does so Democrats will push the "No Arabs" issue and make them look like the discriminatory ones this go around.

 

[A'Busa'd]

Arabic is not a nationality.  It is an ethnicity.

I thought it was a language.

 

[Over_Easy]

Arabic is not a nationality.  It is an ethnicity.

I thought it was a language.

That too...just like English.

Someone speaks English and certain people like Americans are considered English looking.

 

[A'Busa'd]

That too...just like English.  

Someone speaks English and certain people like Americans are considered English looking.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[Over_Easy]

That too...just like English.  

Someone speaks English and certain people like Americans are considered English looking.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.  

Deland, huh?

Been there a few times on business. Pretty quiet and relaxing area.

 

[SAMBUSA]

Arabs, in general, aren't the problem.  I understand the heartburn towards them and I'm not saying that they are my favorite nationality.  But, I don't think that just because some Arabs hate Americans doesn't mean that we cut off all ties to the Arab world.

If it was Ireland that we invaded, would you feel the same way about the Irish?

Arabic is not a nationality.  It is an ethnicity.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make.

What are you called if you are from Saudi Arabia? An Arab right?

 

[BusaSamurai]

bush is not stupid if he stops the buy out then the dems will raise cain its a no win situation if you stop them then he will be called racists because it was ok for britain to have it why not them also if he stops them then you can bet someone will ask why is it ok for china and japan to have port control but not them.. Danged if you do danged if you dont

 

[Cuffee]

Whatever happened to the slogan "Made in the USA".

 

[Ride_or_Fish]

Whatever happened to the slogan "Made in the USA".

That slogan was outsourced overseas ...

 

[Cuffee]

Whatever happened to the slogan "Made in the USA".

That slogan was outsourced overseas ...

Sad isn't it :-(

 

[GSXTacy]

It isnt just the ports. Recently, some toll roads in the midwest were sold to another country to operate, because all the money in kickbacks and political hirees that cant run a business, cant make the road profitable. Someone else in another country will make money off it because our state governments are so corrupt.