Promises made, promises kept. Trump frees 1500 1/6 political prisoners.

[TallTom]

I'm a recipient of this......

Years ago I decided I wanted to be a police officer so I went to apply.....I completed all the testing and scored first out of 50 people in my testing session. At the time I had 10 yrs of service under my belt and had actively taken part in training of police ETF units which is something few military people have done.

I was told in no certain terms that I was both the wrong color and gender to make it.....the inspector that took me aside said he would deny what he said....but he said I was the most qualified person they had tested in quite some time.

I can see that in large urban police forces such as Toronto for instance need a specific type of person to police certain ethnic areas but in doing this, they often bent the standards in order to meet their diversity quota.....

I have a long time friend who is a Sgt in Toronto and he said the standard of police officers is deplorable mainly due to DEI priorities....he voice his concerns over both public safety and officer safety but was basically told to shut up, he then got moved off patrol to a desk.

Yep. What a lot of people also lose sight of, is in addition to hiring less qualified in order to make a quota, we are also lowering overall standards in order to allow more to qualify.

If I step on board an airplane to fly somewhere, I do not give a flying eff what my pilots look like. I want them to be the best qualified to take off, land, fly, manage a situation and get me there on time. When I hear that airlines are now accepting pilots with 250 hours of flight time, instead of 1500 hours of flight time as a way to get more pilots, I'm less inclined to fly on that airline.

Here is another real world example. I was hiring a driver. I asked her "What do you feel is your best job skill you can bring to this"? Her response, "I can show up to work on time".

That ended it for me. If anyone thinks showing up to work on time is a job skill, we have a bigger problem than what they look like.

 

[Dnyce]

If I was interviewing for a driver position I’d say I can drive anything with wheels or tracks while engaging a threat and I will get you where u need to be alive, everytime.

You’d have to hire me, how could u not

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

It is wrong. So is not choosing someone because of creed, which no one can deny has happened either. It’s a delicate balance with no easy fix.

Let the best man/woman win period. It should be like that and I agree there are many times and places where for whatever reason it might be. So you go take it up on an individual basis with that person or company. You don NOT legislate that no matter what you have to have X amount of people of X color, gender or whatever. Because then as I said you put everyone in danger of failing.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

If I was interviewing for a driver position I’d say I can drive anything with wheels or tracks while engaging a threat and I will get you where u need to be alive, everytime.

You’d have to hire me, how could u not

Hi. If you are a gay trans gender green woman ( but the dems do not know what a woman is so???????????) Who can not read or spell you would have been all set. Also disabled peolpe should get the jobs too. But I see a shortage of blind cab driverd. This must be fixed now.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Of course it should be merit based but when has it ever been that way? You can probably count on one hand the number of Hispanic, black or American Indians who are corporate heads. How many did you see sitting with trump’s billionaires? Suppose no black professional is qualified? None? And how long has that been the case? Forever? Almost. The first black army general was in 1940. The first black female general was in 1979, 39 years later. Suppose (no person of color) was qualified before 1940? How about in the 14 YEARS that passed before there was the first black Air Force general? How many decades passed before that? There were only twelve (12) black officers in 1941, twelve! There were over 4,000 black soldiers though, mostly cooks and drivers. Merit based….right.

Realizing parity (equality) in the hiring process is not an easy task since the opposite has been the norm since our country was founded.

It has not always been the way it should be. I have no issue condemning my country for sending black people to fight and die in WWII only to still treat them horribly upon their return. Lots of things WERE wrong and are now much better. We still have a long way to go.
But DEI and forcing companies or militaries to diversify just so they can take a cute pic showing inclusivity is horribly wrong. No different than Affirmative Action which was finally show to be fully responsible for reverse discrimination where pathetic candidates were placed solely for the reason that some activist wanted them there. It's like taking a black rodeo rider and telling you he's gonna hop in the cockpit and fly you to XYZ... it's ok. I know he wasn't the most capable. We hope he gets you there.

Sorry. Here's how you do it.
REMOVE ALL race, color and gender questions from all applications. Judge each applicant blindly on their marked earned qualifications. If we wound up with a purple haired freak battalion cuz they were the best I am fine with it.
Let's do it. Are you good with that? No clue on who or what just on paper their abilities.

 

[Bumblebee]

It has not always been the way it should be. I have no issue condemning my country for sending black people to fight and die in WWII only to still treat them horribly upon their return. Lots of things WERE wrong and are now much better. We still have a long way to go.
But DEI and forcing companies or militaries to diversify just so they can take a cute pic showing inclusivity is horribly wrong. No different than Affirmative Action which was finally show to be fully responsible for reverse discrimination where pathetic candidates were placed solely for the reason that some activist wanted them there. It's like taking a black rodeo rider and telling you he's gonna hop in the cockpit and fly you to XYZ... it's ok. I know he wasn't the most capable. We hope he gets you there.

Sorry. Here's how you do it.
REMOVE ALL race, color and gender questions from all applications. Judge each applicant blindly on their marked earned qualifications. If we wound up with a purple haired freak battalion cuz they were the best I am fine with it.
Let's do it. Are you good with that? No clue on who or what just on paper their abilities.

I agree, the wrong people are getting into positions and jobs solely based on their ethnicity, race or gender which is getting people killed and/or lowering the standard in such a way that quality of work and effort is being compromised.....

We could delve into language as well especially here in Canada where the French language is a stand alone language....I've seen highly qualified combat experienced soldiers overlooked for key positions for the sole reason they didn't speak French and non experienced French speaking soldiers get the positions.

At the time French speaking military candidates were given English training yet English speaking military members were not given French training...

Some of that has changed and we now send English speaking military members on French courses...and they have to maintain a certain level of competency or lose their French profile......this is something French speaking members don't have to do.

 

[mark3evo]

Are you saying that DEI is a bad thing? That we shouldn't include equity and inclusion?

The basis of the idea is to support people who come from varying backgrounds, (race, gender, etc) and give them the resources and respect they need to thrive in life and the workplace.
So you're saying that we're not all equal and some are more deserving than others?

In USA it is different a pretty good melting pot I always hear

In UK white working class are definitely excluded
DEI gone way too far , Police failure to arrest shoplifters but keen to employ Diversity managers on $100,000 per year
It’s everywhere in the Government civil service

It should be colour blind and on merit


On another subject why we need a ‘Trump’ like figure it was reported in the media that 1 in 12 of the population of London are illegals that totals 600,000

We do not know who are entering our country , 50,000 young men of fighting age - who throw their passports into the English Channel

The joke is we could keep out Adolf Hitler and his armed forces, but cannot stop rubber dinghies

These could be bad actors .like ISIS operatives we have no idea who they are , move into 4**** hotels when we have veterans sleeping rough on the streets.

 

[Red05]

Let the best man/woman win period

Ideally, of course. If only that’s the way it is. Flawed laws had to be introduced because people don’t follow that simple scheme. Bigoted choices came way before reverse discrimination.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Ideally, of course. If only that’s the way it is. Flawed laws had to be introduced because people don’t follow that simple scheme. Bigoted choices came way before reverse discrimination.

'Flawed laws had to be introduced'
Did you really just say that? Unacceptable. You take it up on an idividual basis and do NOT pass flawed laws that apply to all like a blanket because for the most part it was working just fine.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Working just fine eh? You should be ashamed for making such a statement. For white men it always worked ‘just fine’ but for women and people of color, not so much.

 

[TallTom]

In USA it is different a pretty good melting pot I always hear

In UK white working class are definitely excluded
DEI gone way too far , Police failure to arrest shoplifters but keen to employ Diversity managers on $100,000 per year
It’s everywhere in the Government civil service

It should be colour blind and on merit


On another subject why we need a ‘Trump’ like figure it was reported in the media that 1 in 12 of the population of London are illegals that totals 600,000

We do not know who are entering our country , 50,000 young men of fighting age - who throw their passports into the English Channel

The joke is we could keep out Adolf Hitler and his armed forces, but cannot stop rubber dinghies

These could be bad actors .like ISIS operatives we have no idea who they are , move into 4**** hotels when we have veterans sleeping rough on the streets.

It starts out in govt positions here also. And vendors to the govt. DEI is just a new version of Affirmative Action policies here. It was never about qualifications. It was about quotas. Bee's summation of his job interview was exactly correct. I used to be told, I can't hire anymore low point employees until I placed some high points ones. Points were assigned to how many AA boxes they checked off. The more points we could hire, the more budget we got. So a disabled minority was worth more than 3 able bodied non minorities.

It was ridiculous. The only thing worse than hiring them, was trying to get rid of them. We would settle for paying huge severance amounts, just to preclude going to court for years to prove they deserved to be fired.