Proof that this type of frame slider does not work!

[FloydV]

OK, so I thought the kickstand was down and it fell.

Here are some pics of the damage, and the type of frame slider or crash protector that was installed. I remember a heated debate sometime ago between this protector and another.

Pics attached. This is a lot of damage from a bike falling over. Note the cracked windshield.

Floyd

 

[cheferman65]

Was there frame damage? I don't remember designers/manufactures of FRAME/CHASIS Sliders ever claiming that they protect your plastics, windshield or cases.

Just a quick visual of your damage, I'd say they did their job. I don't know why you would think that putting frame sliders on your bike the parts pictured would have been protected??? That's not their purpose.

Sorry about your mishap. Expensive lesson.

 

[shawnski]

Sorry about the fall... I say it would have been alot worse without them..

 

[Postal]

In my opinion, any frame slider is over rated. I think they give a false sense of security that little or no damage will occur. Truth is, you will have damage if you drop or wreck your bike, with or without a frame slider. Do they truly minimize damage? Somewhat, but replacing a scuffed side panel costs as much as replacing a broken one.

P.

 

[mabupa]

That looks ugly!! I have same sliders and mine fell when taking it off the rear stand and I didn't get one scratch. It's a genII but, that shouldn't make a difference. Sorry about your plastics and screen :-(

 

[ResidentEvil]

Man..sorry Bro ...but they only activate when you slide seriously I hope you get it fixed cheap.Why do plastics have to cost so much

 

[majestic12]

I have the cut in frame slider. When I dropped mine I was happy to see no damage was done to the bike. But I eased it down. I put them on in hopes that my frame would not get tweeked in a crash. Will they work? I hope I can never answer that.

 

[outlawbusa]

In my opinion, any frame slider is over rated. I think they give a false sense of security that little or no damage will occur. Truth is, you will have damage if you drop or wreck your bike, with or without a frame slider. Do they truly minimize damage? Somewhat, but replacing a scuffed side panel costs as much as replacing a broken one.

P.

That's why I am going with a rock crawling type exoskeleton and roll bar around my bike...lay it down, fall over, bring it on!

 

[mysql]

Was there frame damage? I don't remember designers/manufactures of FRAME/CHASIS Sliders ever claiming that they protect your plastics, windshield or cases.

Frame sliders often do cause frame damage that might not otherwise occur. The fairings wrap your vehicle with plastic allowing it to slide around in a fall. When you attach several brackets to the frame, the frame slider takes the impact and transfers it directly to the frame. Sometimes the leverage twists the frame or damages the radiator putting you in a situation where you might be unable to ride away which wouldn't otherwise exist.

 

[TallTom]

I have SO been where you are now dropping your bike. I got similar damage as you picture. Amazing the cost of a 0 MPH fall. If you have insurance and its covered, call Justin at Honda East. He fixed me up with all I needed. If you are on your own it is cheaper to get a new all over paint job than what the plastic cost to replace.

 

[kromdom]

FloydV, major bummer for your tip over, man.

Truth is, you will have damage if you drop or wreck your bike, with or without a frame slider. Do they truly minimize damage? Somewhat, but replacing a scuffed side panel costs as much as replacing a broken one.

P.

AMEN!! + 1 million. This should pretty much settle any debate about the value/purpose of ANY slider.

I don't remember designers/manufactures of FRAME/CHASIS Sliders ever claiming that they protect your plastics, windshield or cases. I don't know why you would think that putting frame sliders on your bike the parts pictured would have been protected??? That's not their purpose. Sorry about your mishap.

Another AMEN. And +1

Sometimes the leverage twists the frame or damages the radiator putting you in a situation where you might be unable to ride away which wouldn't otherwise exist.

Curious if you say this from firsthand/personal experience because I have read EVERY thread here about a spill with the NO-CUT sliders (myself included) and none of them reported any damage to the radiator or FRAME.

 

[cheferman65]

Frame sliders often do cause frame damage that might not otherwise occur. The fairings wrap your vehicle with plastic allowing it to slide around in a fall. When you attach several brackets to the frame, the frame slider takes the impact and transfers it directly to the frame. Sometimes the leverage twists the frame or damages the radiator putting you in a situation where you might be unable to ride away which wouldn't otherwise exist.

That being said, if the severity of the fall/slide is that violent no slider will protect any thing. They are a buffer not a savior. As far as the radiator goes that damage is trex specific in their design. Price for convenience I suppose.
I have had my share of get offs and thank goodness for my choice of slider and choice to use them. Your opinion may not reflect those expressed by me and I can respect that.

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[GoldenChild]

It's called a frame slider not fairing slider for a reason. To keep the bike from touching the plastic or any part of bike in a fall the thing would have to be long as your arm to not have any part of bike contact ground in a fall. the slider is meant to protect the frame by allowing it to slide. These pretty sliders out there alot of them will cause more damage than if you didn't have them. I have seen the LSL sliders in action at 170 mph and bike had very minimal damage,there is a reason they cost what they cost.. Is Cheap really Worth the Cost?

example: get on your knees, your body frame is your bike, with your arms by your side ball your fist up and put on your hip, now look right or left and think about falling over to either side, now do the same with your arms spread out. do you think that your fist will stop your body from touching the ground if you fell either direction? what about with your arms spread out? See the visual,feel the difference...

Have a great day off to the lab I go..

 

[MO-BUSA]

i think your damage might have been worse had it not been for the slider, maybe a cracked fairing, in a sense it did do its job, but not the one its supposed to do, like Daniel has discribed, it pivoted and let the top portion of your plastics get scratched, the winshield cracked becasue of the pinch point/stress, you got lucky you didnt crack more.

 

[kromdom]

example: get on your knees, your body frame is your bike, with your arms by your side ball your fist up and put on your hip, now look right or left and think about falling over to either side, now do the same with your arms spread out. do you think that your fist will stop your body from touching the ground if you fell either direction? what about with your arms spread out? See the visual,feel the difference...

Have a great day off to the lab I go..

I suggest that this be made a STICKY

 

[superchargedv8]

i can see in the near future someone rolling around their living room floor trying to simulate some slider action...lol

 

[E Zurcher]

Dropped mine last weekend and had almost no damage. Just a broken mirror, scuff on the left engine case, broken left footpeg and a scuff on the upper fairing which I buffed out. Mirror got took out when it grazed my stand-up freezer. I got real lucky with that one.

 

[1busa]

Honestly those parking lot/ garage drops are a roll of the dice Ive seen guys drop bikes similarly and only have a lever bend or break and Ive seen guys drop them and fairings shatter and radiator get smashed and leak............. So with or without sliders you could get away with replacing a lever or get stuck with a hefty repair bill.

 

[shawnski]

Honestly those parking lot/ garage drops are a roll of the dice Ive seen guys drop bikes similarly and only have a lever bend or break and Ive seen guys drop them and fairings shatter and radiator get smashed and leak............. So with or without sliders you could get away with replacing a lever or get stuck with a hefty repair bill.

i agree.. and the damages can be different based on which direction your handlebar located before the fall.. left, straight or to the right

 

[mynewride]

honestly that is nothing in comparison to when mine fell over. insurance claimed 4800 in damage from a tip over. got all of the left side plastics and pegs and muffler. mirror was scuffed, crank case was scuffed. scrathes on plastics from bottom to top. it was a horrible winter morning. all is fixed now with the help of daniel. did you know the factory muffler is worth some incredible 800 bucks? its how i got my brocks steet meg system.

i had no sliders at the time. all the lsl sliders would have done is cost me more to repair the crash pad on the lsl sliders. in a crash though, i would definately trust these things. best of all they are a piece of cake. no need to even remove the plastics.