Respect...or the lack of it.....

HayaWakened said:
As a straight dirty old man living in SoCal I approve of this thread
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Hi. Yes my girl has respect and is wonderfull. After 1 1/2 years together I still do not know what she sees in me.

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After my last layoff in the mortgage industry, I recently went back to work as a Teacher's Aide at a local middle school here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Quite a shock since I haven't been in a school setting for decades. The biggest challenge for the teachers is classroom management. Kids shout stuff to others across the room while the teacher is talking, girls gossip about who is cheating on who during class, kids are constantly asking to use the bathroom or get paper, etc.
My job is to help the English learners get through their day so I don't have to run the class thank goodness.
The girls at my school aren't wearing anything too revealing, it's middle school so maybe that's it. Some teachers are good about gaining respect but they have to work for it on a daily basis. There is a lot of laziness towards doing any work. A lot of kids are dedicated but there are more than a few who aren't motivated at all.
When they get out in the workforce and the boss gives them a project that doesn't get completed they'll be fired. They don't get it.
They can't seem to see the importance of developing good work habits now that will stand them in good stead later on.
 
I grew up in the '60s, was the youngest of 3, my father took very little if any interest in us kids, he was either at work, at the local working men's club drinking and playing billiards all evening and in weekends he was off river fishing (trout and salmon) or hunting deer.
My Mum held the family together and we all did ok as we left high school and all got trades. University was not even an option.
At school if we trespassed any of the rules it was the strap on the hand (in middle school) and the cane on the ass in high school. And I got plenty... I hung out with the naughty kids coz it was pretty exciting. No girls at my HS, boys only.
I turned out to be above average academically, but disliked by my teachers so was never encouraged to go higher academically and my parents didn't encourage me at all to do anything worthwhile with my future either.
I turned out pretty well considering the background I came from.
The environment we are raised in, and the friends we make as youngsters has quite a strong influence on us, but ultimately it's all down to what we want and what we believe in as individuals.
Some of the most successful people come from dirt poor families and some of the brightest people end up in prison, using their talent for nefarious purposes.
Life goes on . . .
 
I see it's ok to joke about a person getting killed in a shooting accident but not for Ottafish to make a joke about the Trump shooting.
 
jellyrug said:
If you lived and worked for a while (not military) overseas, especially Asia, there is still a lot of respect for seniority, age and authority.

The school you refer to, if that happens everywhere, will eventually cause the failure of democracy.
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more like the failure of society, a transition into something like they have in Mexico or South Africa today. If you look at the Asian cultures they are generally very cohesive, this is the key to the success of any nation. People mostly all of the same race, all basically behaving to a fixed set of social norms. Take away those norms and the forces that police them and you get what we we see in the West today. You can't have total freedom and expect a decent happy society. That requires personal sacrifice, giving up some of our 'pleasures', or keeping them well out of sight, to conform for the common good.

Of course it's all academic now, the tide cannot be turned in a modern democracy because the people are too weak, too soft to approve the necessary actions. The only way to go back is by dictatorship, which leads to other destructive issues. The Italian mafia, more properly known as the Cosa Nostra, are a huge problem in Italy, have been for centuries. But when Benito Mussolini came to power he all but destroyed them. It was a messy business but it paid off.

1925, Benito Mussolini initiated a campaign to destroy the Mafia and assert Fascist control over Sicilian life.
he appointed Cesare Mori as the Prefect of Palermo in October 1925 and granted him special powers to fight the Mafia. Mori formed a small army of policemen, carabinieri and militiamen, which went from town to town rounding up suspects. To force suspects to surrender, they would take their families hostage, sell off their property, or publicly slaughter their livestock. By 1928, more than 11,000 suspects were arrested. Confessions were sometimes extracted through beatings and torture. Some mafiosi who had been on the losing end of Mafia feuds voluntarily cooperated with prosecutors
Mori's campaign ended in June 1929 when Mussolini recalled him to Rome. He did not permanently crush the Mafia as the Fascist press proclaimed, but his campaign was very successful at suppressing it. There was nearly no mafia left after the war. The Sicilian families had been shut down by the prefect Mori
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