T.R.E. or not to T.R.E.
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personally i havent been w/o it. it was already on the bike and heard reputable people say they hate em' and that threw me for a loop. but than again they either use ignition mod. or pwrcmdr that also does ignition.
so i felt they just didnt think tre was as good as those options which im sure isnt. BUT does that mean i get rid of mine or NO. THE QUESTION AT HAND right now I'm going to have builder remove it but im keeping it just im case.
Johnnycheese
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03 motor doesn't make you need a TRE
03 ecu does
you never need a tre period
said this from 1999
and no need for the ign module either unless you want to take timing out.
03 ecu does
you never need a tre period
said this from 1999
and no need for the ign module either unless you want to take timing out.
Johnnycheese
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I guess every month we have to have a MORON
I'm not a moron...A##HOLE!!!!....God forbid you lower yourself to explain what it is....I had my bike put on the dyno(and Im no genius, this is my first bike in 15 years!!!) and they said they clipped what they called a "wheelie wire". Brocks told me when I asked him about it(a really nice guy named E.J.) that it did something to first gear (retard timing???)and to leave it cut....is E.J. a moron, too!!!!!!!
The Big Red One
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The early carbrueted GSXR-R's had the wheelie wire.......I have one. No wheelie wire on the fuel injected Gixers....its all computer controlled.
The early gixxers has a simple wire that went to the the shift mechanism and told the bike it was in the first couple of gears...so it used a diff timing map. You cut the gear position sensor wires on the new suzi's and you'll get an error code and limp mode. Thats why guys use a tre instead. Same results...diff method.
If you want to experiment a bit tho unplug/cut your gear position sensor wires and take a ride...nothing like hands on to convince yourself one way or the other. The cheeseman can come across a little harsh but he does know his s#@t
Hang around awhile and you'll see
Johnnycheese
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yes you are.
WHY???
because there are people on the internet putting their .02 in and don't have a clue.
the GSXR1100 had it but if you ever would read there has benn many of post that this did NOT work on Busas.
I am not an A##HOLE as you say, I just state facts, always have and always will.
and for some people they just can't handle the truth
By the way, Big Red...what do you think that orange wire they clipped when they put my bike on the dyno might be?The early carbrueted GSXR-R's had the wheelie wire.......I have one. No wheelie wire on the fuel injected Gixers....its all computer controlled.
The early gixxers has a simple wire that went to the the shift mechanism and told the bike it was in the first couple of gears...so it used a diff timing map. You cut the gear position sensor wires on the new suzi's and you'll get an error code and limp mode. Thats why guys use a tre instead. Same results...diff method.
If you want to experiment a bit tho unplug/cut your gear position sensor wires and take a ride...nothing like hands on to convince yourself one way or the other. The cheeseman can come across a little harsh but he does know his s#@t
Hang around awhile and you'll see
The Big Red One
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I'm glad I could help you K4By the way, Big Red...what do you think that orange wire they clipped when they put my bike on the dyno might be?The early carbrueted GSXR-R's had the wheelie wire.......I have one. No wheelie wire on the fuel injected Gixers....its all computer controlled.
The early gixxers has a simple wire that went to the the shift mechanism and told the bike it was in the first couple of gears...so it used a diff timing map. You cut the gear position sensor wires on the new suzi's and you'll get an error code and limp mode. Thats why guys use a tre instead. Same results...diff method.
If you want to experiment a bit tho unplug/cut your gear position sensor wires and take a ride...nothing like hands on to convince yourself one way or the other. The cheeseman can come across a little harsh but he does know his s#@t
Hang around awhile and you'll see
Brocks never told me what it actually did or what it is...thanx a bunch
Thanx Big Red....I'm not sure...tomorrow I have to call Brocks and I'll ask E.J. what it is specifically...got my Gen 2 pipe and PC3 on with Brocks 027D map and airbox mod...WOW!!!!!....and removed TRE as they suggested.....its very very smooth and in second gear mild roll on @ about 7000 it lofts the front wheel really easy...as a rookie on a Busa it produces good wood!!!
....now I see why you all get excited about having a Busa!!!!!
This brings up a good Q. I recently bought and installed a smart TRE, i notice a sizable difference in throttle response. Should I replace that with a PC Commander? As of now my bike is stock except for smart TRE/w gear indicator.
The Big Red One
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By the way...Thanx to people like you AND Cheeseman that I got enough schooling to do these mods by myself...and listening to all of you made it clean and simple...Thanx to all!!!!
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