Test your tire knowledge?
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only thing I can figure is the greater lean angle...
most on the track seem to run em, and they do seem to get down an dirty and dip on in~!~
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You best enjoy threads like this to keep you occupied. It's a very long time til spring in your neck of the frozen tundra big boy
I think this is a great thread. There are tons of threads on what tire is best but none on why or how their favorite tire does what it does.
I hope there will be some who will gather useable information from this thread they can use when choosing tires. The one who makes the best decisions is usually the one with the most information.
There are point's no one has touched on. If no one brings them up, I'll point them out tomorrow.
You fella's running a 190/55 tire, post up and tell us why you prefer the 55 over the 50!
Alright already it's tomorrow
Okay Comrades, the question was:
What are the advantages (If any) of using a 190/55/17 over the OEM 190/50/17?
So now the time has come to open the envelope and the answer is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NONE!
Yep, there are no clear advantages to the 55 series tire. Oh there is a few pounds of increased load carrying capacity and it does indeed raise the rear slightly but you can acomplish the same results with a couple turns on the shock preload. It gears the bike slightly higher but you can do that with a change of sprockets. So the 55 series tire really doesn't do anything for us that we can't accomplish through other means.
So now you ask, "Well, if there is no real advantage, why do they bother making this tire"? If you are a track junky or a hard core racer where a tenth of a second per lap is the difference in whether you are the first or second man to pass the checkered flag, there is some advantages to the taller tire. It relates to swing arm angle. To us flunkies who only wish we could ride like Matt MLadden swing arm angle is of little importance but you can bet your sweet bippy it can mean the difference in winning and loosing to Mladden.
When you add a set of Soupy's dog bones to lift the rear a full one inch, it changes the angle of the swing arm. Now you have changed the angle of the chain pull. This is especially important to big HP bikes. The angle of the swing arm controls squat. To much squat and the bike runs wide, to little squat causes the rear to spin up prematurely.
This is of such importance to racers that some bikes (Including the GSXR1K) have adjustable bushing to assist in solving this problem. The adjustable bushings allows the swingarm pivot point to be raised or lowered in order to adjust swing arm angle.
So to us everyday folks, it's simply a matter of choice, not performance!
What are the advantages (If any) of using a 190/55/17 over the OEM 190/50/17?
So now the time has come to open the envelope and the answer is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NONE!
Yep, there are no clear advantages to the 55 series tire. Oh there is a few pounds of increased load carrying capacity and it does indeed raise the rear slightly but you can acomplish the same results with a couple turns on the shock preload. It gears the bike slightly higher but you can do that with a change of sprockets. So the 55 series tire really doesn't do anything for us that we can't accomplish through other means.
So now you ask, "Well, if there is no real advantage, why do they bother making this tire"? If you are a track junky or a hard core racer where a tenth of a second per lap is the difference in whether you are the first or second man to pass the checkered flag, there is some advantages to the taller tire. It relates to swing arm angle. To us flunkies who only wish we could ride like Matt MLadden swing arm angle is of little importance but you can bet your sweet bippy it can mean the difference in winning and loosing to Mladden.
When you add a set of Soupy's dog bones to lift the rear a full one inch, it changes the angle of the swing arm. Now you have changed the angle of the chain pull. This is especially important to big HP bikes. The angle of the swing arm controls squat. To much squat and the bike runs wide, to little squat causes the rear to spin up prematurely.
This is of such importance to racers that some bikes (Including the GSXR1K) have adjustable bushing to assist in solving this problem. The adjustable bushings allows the swingarm pivot point to be raised or lowered in order to adjust swing arm angle.
So to us everyday folks, it's simply a matter of choice, not performance!
So to us everyday folks, it's simply a matter of choice, not performance!
Good info, and again it comes down to preference...some tires simply feel better than others to me...some I absolutely do not like~!~
I can go out on a tire half as good as one sitting in my garage, but if I feel better or trust those tires more than the better set then I am going to ride better on the lower grade set of tires~!~
Sometimes it makes a difference on where you've been, what you've done, and what you have experienced in the past...and maybe worrying a bit about your future experiences on something that doesn't feel quite right
BusaBlue
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Okay Comrades, the question was:
What are the advantages (If any) of using a 190/55/17 over the OEM 190/50/17?
So now the time has come to open the envelope and the answer is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NONE!
Yep, there are no clear advantages to the 55 series tire. Oh there is a few pounds of increased load carrying capacity and it does indeed raise the rear slightly but you can acomplish the same results with a couple turns on the shock preload. It gears the bike slightly higher but you can do that with a change of sprockets. So the 55 series tire really doesn't do anything for us that we can't accomplish through other means.
So now you ask, "Well, if there is no real advantage, why do they bother making this tire"? If you are a track junky or a hard core racer where a tenth of a second per lap is the difference in whether you are the first or second man to pass the checkered flag, there is some advantages to the taller tire. It relates to swing arm angle. To us flunkies who only wish we could ride like Matt MLadden swing arm angle is of little importance but you can bet your sweet bippy it can mean the difference in winning and loosing to Mladden.
When you add a set of Soupy's dog bones to lift the rear a full one inch, it changes the angle of the swing arm. Now you have changed the angle of the chain pull. This is especially important to big HP bikes. The angle of the swing arm controls squat. To much squat and the bike runs wide, to little squat causes the rear to spin up prematurely.
This is of such importance to racers that some bikes (Including the GSXR1K) have adjustable bushing to assist in solving this problem. The adjustable bushings allows the swingarm pivot point to be raised or lowered in order to adjust swing arm angle.
So to us everyday folks, it's simply a matter of choice, not performance!
Based on your experience, what do you like, and why?
mike1180
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I really have no preference in street tires. The 50 series works better for me when it comes to wheelies but other that it really doesn't matter.
I have access to tons of race take offs which are all 55's so I end up running them on the streets much of the time.
