Texas seeks sport bike discrimination

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A bill just passed by the Texas state house of representatives seeks to give “sport bikes†a definition separate from all other motorcycles and impose unique restrictions on them. The legislation comes in response to the death of Texas A&M student Malorie Bullock, who was killed while riding pillion. So just how does the Lone Star State define a sport bike?

HB No. 2470 reads:
“Sport bike†means a motorcycle:
A) that is optimized for speed, acceleration, braking, and maneuverability on paved roads;
B) that has a lightweight frame;
C) on which the operator leans forward over the gas tank during operation; and
D) that is not a touring, cruising, standard, or dual-sport motorcycle.â€

As you can see, that’s not only extremely vague, but it also casts a wide net. Will it include popular and practical learner fodder like the Kawasaki Ninja 250 and Honda CBR250R? The Motorcycle Industry Council thinks so.

In response, the MIC stated, “There are small displacement (250 cc) motorcycles that, because of the vague and subjective criteria proposed, would be included in the definition of “sport bike†that are as appropriate, or more so, for novice riders than certain other larger displacement motorcycles that create much more horsepower yet would not fall under the “sport bike†definition and therefore not have restrictions placed on them.â€

The point of all this seems to be the assumption that riding pillion on a “sport bike†is more dangerous than doing so on any other type of motorcycle. Whether that’s because of their performance, the demographics of their riders and their predilection to dangerous behaviour, or all three, is unclear.

If the state Senate passes “Malorie’s Law,†it will become more difficult for sport bikes to carry passengers. In fact, riders of sport bikes will only be able to carry passengers if they’re over 18, have held their license for more than two years or are carrying a passenger who’s over 18 and has a motorcycle license.

Initially, this sort of thing seems like common sense. Laws are already in place in many states regulating the ability of learner and new car drivers to carry passengers and even the times of day in which they can do so. It seems a reasonable precaution to require new riders to gain some experience before carrying passengers. The problems here are the vague definition of “sport bike†and the separation of that class of motorcycle into a separate legal category.

As the MIC notes, the vagueness of the definition will include a huge number of bikes, many of which probably aren’t the sort the knee-jerk legislation intends to regulate. You lean over the tank of a Triumph Bonneville, does that make it a “sport bike?†The Yamaha WR250X has a lightweight frame, does that make it a “sport bike?â€

But even while it inadvertently sweeps up many bikes, the law doesn’t necessarily accomplish its presumed purpose of separating high performance motorcycles. The BMW K1600GT is a “touring†motorcycle, yet has 160bhp and can easily exceed 150mph. A Ducati Diavel would likely be categorized under “touring†or “cruising,†yet it’s one of the fastest accelerating bikes currently on sale.

Added to those two problems, the legislation singles out “sport bikes†as the sole source of danger to pillions. I’ve hurt myself as effectively on 250cc dual sports as I have on 1,200cc superbikes. Physics don’t seem to care how many tribal graphics your motorcycle has when it runs into a tree.

There’s also the question of setting a legal precedent for discrimination against “sport bikes†and their riders. If the senate passes this law, “sport bikes†will have a separate definition under Texas law to other motorcycles, opening them up to further regulation. Could the minimum age for their riders be increased? Could the period in which you must hold a license before you can operate one be set? Could they be banned all together? See above for the reasons why doing this for motorcycles vaguely defined as a “sport bike†could be a problem. Could riding a “sport bike†become probable cause for a stop and search?

Having said all that, we understand the thinking behind this law and sympathize with it. There’s a bunch of jackasses out there doing stupid **** on motorcycles and exposing their passengers to undue risk as a result. But the solution to that problem isn’t necessarily different from the solution to motorcycle safety in general: training, training, training. Riding a motorcycle is hard. New riders don’t necessarily understand how hard it is. Currently our fine country only pays a passing nod to formalized training. Even the non-mandatory MSF classes aren’t enough to equip a rider with the skills to operate a motorcycle in modern traffic. What we need is a formalized, regulated, comprehensive training program. One that doesn’t just equip riders with skills, but also the fundamental knowledge to make the right decisions. Anecdotally, any rider I’ve spoken to who’s not equipped with decent safety gear has cited a lack of knowledge as to its benefits as the reason they don’t wear it. Why aren’t we teaching them the reasons?

Sadly, we know the answer to that question: training is hard. Much harder than writing a crappy definition of “sport bike†and passing a half-assed law that will have no impact on safety, instead simply creating more red tape and hassle that will prevent new riders from taking up motorcycling. Why isn’t someone making that argument to lawmakers on our behalf? Why don’t we have a voluntary training program worthy of the name? Why wasn’t Malorie’s boyfriend equipped with the skills to operate his motorcycle safely? If he had been, would this legislation have been written?
 
Texas, land of the little wieners, big belt buckles, home of the infamous Shinko and two story mobil homes!


Blaaaaaaah!

Those big belt buckles are actually a tombstone! :whistle:
 
ya them sportbikes are more dangerous than putting a 16 year old in a short wheel based high horse power sports car. yet no one goes after them. just saying.
 
This is what we get for voting in uninformed idiots into office.

I tire of all these laws passed as knee jerk reactions. There is no scientific study or research to back up any claims, or any study/research done to determine what positive impact are gained from the law. It's all random adhoc crap. Feel-good garbage so they can pat themselves on the back for doing something good with the world.

Remember, it's not about what you actually do, it's how you FEEL about what you did or think you did.
 
bogus! again with the regulations! i fully support darwinism, let that law deal with 'em!

but seriously- fully agree this definition needs to be clarified, and perhaps a grandfather clause put in... i dont know... just glad it doesn't affect me (yet).
 
Texas, land of the little wieners, big belt buckles, home of the infamous Shinko and two story mobil homes!


Blaaaaaaah!

Those big belt buckles are actually a tombstone! :whistle:


Now that I was able to get out from underneath my enormous belt buckle and put my little weener away, I'm standing proudly in front of my mobile home telling you to piss off.
 
Yeah, you know us Texans keeping more economically sound than most of the other states. This also includes our housing market... Its not that we think we are better than other states, but we know that before yanks started pushing their views south of the Manson/Nixon line we were better. :moon:
 
Why would they target the "sport" bike when they are designed for precision? I would think they would target the ape hanger Harley riders. Why pick on a class of bike that is technologically advanced and superior in many ways compared to, say.. Older bikes that may not have up to date braking components or fuel injection. Or large raked out choppers that handle like a tractor How is it fair to stereotype a certain class of bike because of the stupidity of certain riders???? +1 on buss bein classified as tourer. :rofl:

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More people die on cruisers than sportbikes. Sportbike guys go ride, and maybe some ride crazy, but we just go ride pretty much. Cruiser guys meet up at a bar. Have a few drinks, go to another bar, drink some more, ride to another bike, etc. until they're hammered and wreck.
 
bogus! again with the regulations! i fully support darwinism, let that law deal with 'em!

but seriously- fully agree this definition needs to be clarified, and perhaps a grandfather clause put in... i dont know... just glad it doesn't affect me (yet).

+1 bro. The only thing that would really bother me is not being able to ride minors. My son (8) holds on just fine with me on the busa. We don't go highway, town n back roads and just a calm cruise. Nothing major. Now that law would mean I can't ride with my boy anymore. :banghead: next they will pass law saying minors can't ride offroad dirtbikes/quads. I call BS.


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you what this means dont you


MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hense more crashes and dead people not the smartest law
 
you what this means dont you


MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hense more crashes and dead people not the smartest law

you know your right. i didn't think about that. if you are going to lose your license if you pull over for a simple traffic violation then riders will run
 
More people die on cruisers than sportbikes. Sportbike guys go ride, and maybe some ride crazy, but we just go ride pretty much. Cruiser guys meet up at a bar. Have a few drinks, go to another bar, drink some more, ride to another bike, etc. until they're hammered and wreck.

Drinking and driving is an issue that transcends any type of motorcycle (or automobile).
From what I’ve observed over 30 years of riding motorcycles, more sport bikes operate in a risky manner than non-sport bikes regarding speeding and stunting.
It appears the incident that triggered this legislation was the death of a 19 yr old that was on the back of a sport bike with a 19 yr old driver.
The solution is not to regulate a style of bike, instead encourage education and matching a rider's motorcycle selected to his experience/skill level. Ultimately and unfortunately we will always see accidents.

just remember, lawmakers see kids on CBR600's with noisy pipe flying down the road in a different light than a 55 yr old man on a Goldwing with his cruise set 5mph below the speed limit.
 
must just be my part of the country but harley riders in my area are loud and rude. winding gears all the way out blowing through residential area. although I have seen a few sport bikes do the same through here i see plenty more harleys stop at the stop sign out front of my house and think it's a drag strip:poke: stereotypes are bogus, it's the rider who chooses to ride safe or not, not the bike...
 
I think we have a ABATE member who maybe able to shed some light on all of it and tell us what we as a group can do about it.
:poke: Russ:poke: Russ wake up
 
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