Tre poll

Tre poll - How many

  • I have a tre and it rocks

    Votes: 194 100.0%
  • I have a tre and it leaves something to be desired

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I want to get one

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I will probably never have one

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    194
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bought my '03 with PC IIIr, HMF Hi Duals, 16/42 combo, and Ivan's TRE already on bike. I've ridden only one stock busa since-n it sucked. I outpull other busas like busas outpull 900s. I have ridden mine up to redline in 6th only a handful of times...but it sure as he11 was FUN!biggrin.gif Never noticed any problems with bikes' driveability or low-end power delivery...I did switch to 87 octane, n noticed the exhaust dint stink so much of unburnt fuel anymore?rock.gif
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had it to the edge of speed, I wont bother with a TRE, not worth the hassle to me to gain 5-10mph I RARELY see
 
had it to the edge of speed, I wont bother with a TRE, not worth the hassle to me to gain 5-10mph I RARELY see
That's what I used to say, but then I started reading about how many people experienced much smoother operation at low rpm's. Since you *supposedly* get full timing in all gears, it sounds like a nifty idea.

The thing is, I have also been hearing about how many people expeirienced poor running bikes after the installation of a TRE, and even a few that say that TRE's make you SLOWER in the 1/4 mile. Some people have worked out the TRE bugs by retuning, but what's the point of the TRE in the first place if you're going to be forced to get a custom tune!?!?

Obviously, it sounds like this is still uncharted territory and nobody *really* knows what happens when a product like a TRE is installed. The craziest thing is a long time ago when TRE's were just becoming mainstream, I remember reading about a popular tuner (don't remember who it was) proving that TRE's don't actually change timing at all. So, if this is the case, what in the world do they change???

Another question I have seen asked, and nobody has ever given a rock solid answer to is whether or not a TRE does anything past 4,000 rpm. Some say it is only effective from idle to 4,000rpm with a light to no load (leaving 4krpm up, and heavy load situations all the same as stock), while others say it is effective through the entire rpm range, regardless of load situation.

Bottom line, I'm not putting a lot of faith into the hype or the mainstream understanding of how they work, but instead am just going to plug it in, and see what it does. If it makes my bike smoother, awesome, and if it doesn't, oh well, no big deal.

The only way to know if it will work on your bike is to try it.



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bought my '03 with PC IIIr, HMF Hi Duals, 16/42 combo, and Ivan's TRE already on bike. I've ridden only one stock busa since-n it sucked. I outpull other busas like busas outpull 900s. I have ridden mine up to redline in 6th only a handful of times...but it sure as he11 was FUN!biggrin.gif  Never noticed any problems with bikes' driveability or low-end power delivery...I did switch to 87 octane, n noticed the exhaust dint stink so much of unburnt fuel anymore?rock.gif
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I sent him my old one but nooo..he won't send me his!

hogger...
 
I voted "It rocks" simply because it does what its supposed to do ... eliminate the 186 cap.
You didn't notice anything different in the lower gears?
I'll say it has added a bit more punch as I change gears from 1st through 3rd and it seems to have made my take-off a bit smoother.

The thing is I have the "Checkered" switchable tre and only turn it on when I know I'm going to do a top-end run.
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I have one and like it because i just didnt like the idea of having a restriction on my bike, even if i rarely get the occasion to push my Busa over 186MPH, when i have one i wanna be able to...

Plus i have to admit that lower RPMs are "cleaner" with the TRE installed
 
I made my own with a 6.8K ohm resistor...works great! There's a noticable difference in the low gears/RPMs... (even with my PCIII)
 
I installed the GIPro w/ATRE recently. The low speed "jerky" throttle response of my 06LE disappeared. The bike is much smoother. Maybe a "richer" kind of smooth. I'm still trying to understand it. I like the new smoothness.

As far as the speed restriction removal goes, I really don't care. Haven't got her up to 186 yet. Though, I probably will at some point. Just not a priority.

I bought the GIPro w/ATRE for the gear shift indicator. I also wanted to test the ATRE as far as low speed throttle response was concerned.

Hope this helps.
 
I made my own with a 6.8K ohm resistor...works great! There's a noticable difference in the low gears/RPMs... (even with my PCIII)
Letting us know what that difference is would help us out here.
From link above

When Suzuki created the fuel injected bikes they programmed the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) to retard the ignition timing in the first 3 gears. I have heard several theories about why they did this. One is that they wanted to limit the power if a squid grabbed a handfull of throttle. Another says they did it for better emissions. Whatever the reason they did it.

Some genius figured out that if you fool the ECU into thinking that it is in a higher gear than third you could eliminate the timing retard. Presto!! the TRE was born.

The ECU gets a signal from a sensor on the bike called the Gear Position Switch (GPS) Each gear has a resistance associated with it. The ECU sees the voltage drop across the resistance and determines when to retard the bikes ignition based on the voltage drop. The Resistances and Voltages are approximated below.

Gear Resistance Voltage Drop
1 ~567 Ω 1.8v
Neutral Open 5.08v
2 ~827 Ω 2.26v
3 ~1500 Ω 2.99v
4 ~2700 Ω 3.68v
5 ~6800 Ω 4.38v
6 ~15000 Ω 4.70v
 
umnik.gif What he said! tounge.gif

Also, the 186 MPH speed restriction is REMOVED in 5th gear, which is why most TRE's are of the 6.8K ohm value, rather than 15K.
 
Well now you guys did it, I hope your happy tounge.gif

I got a smart tre from checkered flag on the way muscle.gif


So with a smart tre and a stock bike, I'm running the "stock" map in my PCIII...anything different or special (map wise) I need to do?
 
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