Tufbusa, help

I don't think there is anything really wrong with being on the brakes when your starting your steering input as long as your smooth with your transition from braking to accelerating. It does put more force on your front tire but these tires wil take it. Obviously you should be careful when traction is in question i.e cold tires, dirty/dusty roads, precipitation ect.

I've been considering taking the busa out in a novice group this year to putt around with a friend of mine who wants to get into track days but I'm kind of weary my liter bike habits might get me in some hot water if I try to push the big girl a little too hard.

:laugh:Yeah, my going from 1000s to a Busa everyday ended up dragging stock pipes and the right fairing too many times. Took me a little while to adjust.:laugh:
 
First thing I would try is at least 5mm more sag in the front. Then maybe try a little less in the back. Are you measuring sag with the suspension unloaded?

Nothing wrong with trail braking if you know how it's done properly and your suspension is set up well. Really more of a matter of your suspension handling it than the tire. Unless your running Stinkos.
 
First thing I would try is at least 5mm more sag in the front. Then maybe try a little less in the back. Are you measuring sag with the suspension unloaded?

Nothing wrong with trail braking if you know how it's done properly and your suspension is set up well. Really more of a matter of your suspension handling it than the tire. Unless your running Stinkos.

Yes, the suspension is unloaded. Front is on a forklift/triple tree stand, rear is let off of the swingarm stand down on to a 5/8" rod through the engine mount bolt on jackstands.
On the ground I had my friend bounce the bike to settle it as he sat on it. He weighs exactly what I weigh in all of my gear, we checked on scales. That way I did the measuring and know it was done right.
 
Marty, the photos are a little blurred but from what I can see your tires look pretty dang good. There does appear to be a little chamfer on the leading edge of the rear tire tread. Keep an eye on that and if it continues to wear the leading edge, I'd play with the rebound first adding a couple clicks every couple hundred miles up to 6 clicks and see if that cleans it up.

The rear tire has that orange peal look (Perfect). I really can't see any other issues with either tire.

I usually shoot for 35 MM on sag for street riding. A rule of thumb for street use is using the first 1/3 of the suspension travel for sag. This places the working portion of travel in the middle 1/3 of travel which is the most compliant.

Without a hands on feel it's impossible to give you good guidance but I suspect with 7wt fork oil your forks are a bit on the stiff side both compression and rebound. For street use it's best to go a bit softer than track use due to the rough pavement one encounters on public roads at times. Smooth surfaces = more compression/rebound, rough surfaces = less compression/rebound. There is no perfect setting for street use. You can only find your most compliant spot some where in the middle that does the best job for both rough and smooth pavement.

When setting sag, anything between 35 & 40 mm is an acceptable range unless you have to crank in all the compression available to reach 40 mm.

The reason the rear feels a little funny is due to the touring tire rear. You are use to a performance tire and the touring tire has a different feel.

Get you a$$ out to the track this season and get some hot laps on that beast. You'll develope an upgraded respect for the beast between your thighs as well as learn some things you didn't know about her! :thumbsup:
 
Next time I have some help I'll add some sag to the front and rear. That statement about using the first 1/3 of suspension travel for sag made the lightbulb come on in my head! I think I actually get it now.:laugh:
I've been going to do a trackday for over 10 years now, and something always comes up. I'm trying to get to VIR this year!!!
Thanks for all youe help SteveO, I really appreciate it.
 
And get/watch the Dave Moss suspension video's...they were greek to me but I think you'd be able to decode the meaning.

Since SteveO and i are about the same weight, he gave me the settings he's got on his and I copied them on mine. Seems to be working for me. Tweaking suspension is still not within my talent range.
 
That's how we all learn more about our bikes Marty!

"How do you eat an elephant?"

One small bite at a time! :beerchug:
 
And get/watch the Dave Moss suspension video's...they were greek to me but I think you'd be able to decode the meaning.

Since SteveO and i are about the same weight, he gave me the settings he's got on his and I copied them on mine. Seems to be working for me. Tweaking suspension is still not within my talent range.

I have a couple of his videos, good stuff:beerchug:
 
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