Hey Battman, still not much in 3rd, stedman had 2 tries after the install & I couldnt tell any change. Cooper Performance has it now. Their shop looks very good but they havent been as quick as they said they would,Im waiting on them to look at it & call me with what they think it needs, its supposedly on the lift now. If these folks dont get it rite I'll probably sell it. The power is fun but so far, not worth the hassle.