Wheelie's

[MET]

Best speed for a beginner is keep your RPMs up to about 7,000 in 2nd gear and just give full gas. it will come up but not as hard as in first. if if comes up to much jus let off on the throttle slighly to bring it down. just use gas to DO NOT POP THE CLUTCH STARTING OUT.

 

[stkr00]

It is a PDF file i think. If you do not have it you won't be able to open it. You can down load Adobe free almost anywhere.

The webpage is actually a ".php" file. I do have Adobe and it's worked before, but there's something with that page that just doesn't want to work.

Oh well...I'll just practice.

 

[L4G4RT0]

Best speed for a beginner is keep your RPMs up to about 7,000 in 2nd gear and just give full gas.  it will come up but not as hard as in first.  if if comes up to much jus let off on the throttle slighly to bring it down.  just use gas to DO NOT POP THE CLUTCH STARTING OUT.

at 7.000rpms 2nd gear the speed is not so low... do you think it's really the best speed for a beginner to start practising?

Just wondering about that, 'cause i'd like to start trying some wheelies, but the Busa just won't come off the ground! (it sticks right where it should be!!!)

 

[cache]

It is a PDF file i think. If you do not have it you won't be able to open it. You can down load Adobe free almost anywhere.

The webpage is actually a ".php" file.  I do have Adobe and it's worked before, but there's something with that page that just doesn't want to work.

Oh well...I'll just practice.

try THIS LINK

 

[†WÃ￾§†ëD]

Best speed for a beginner is keep your RPMs up to about 7,000 in 2nd gear and just give full gas.  it will come up but not as hard as in first.  if if comes up to much jus let off on the throttle slighly to bring it down.  just use gas to DO NOT POP THE CLUTCH STARTING OUT.

at 7.000rpms 2nd gear the speed is not so low... do you think it's really the best speed for a beginner to start practising?

Just wondering about that, 'cause i'd like to start trying some wheelies, but the Busa just won't come off the ground! (it sticks right where it should be!!!)

I kinda have to agree with L4 on this one, although its better to lift in 2nd, I suggest starting out with one footers working your way up the ladder so you can get a good feel for what it takes to surface the mighty busa, its tanker for sure and you can really feel it when your on one. I put my busa on a diet and lost about 40 lbs and can ride it on the balance point standing or sitting but it takes practice to get the feel for it. you might wanna try with just a gallon of fuel for some weight loss. if you're in first, bring the tach up to about 5k and note the speed, that will give you your speed to start one. just remember the busa is very snappy in first so it's easier to loop than if your in second or third.

 

[1313R]

Welcome to the board. Just get your gas gauge down to less than half a tank then just gun it from about 10mph. It'll come right on up, lowered or not. Or with a full tank in 1st gear run it up to about 4000 to 4500 roll off throttle then back on immediatley. It'll come on up. Just be ready for it.



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[Busafied]

Full tank, stock Busa, with over 43,000 miles...

Here is a Video of some sitdowns.. sitdown wheelies
Don't think that is as far as I can only ride one.. the road was abit rough for them, and traffic started picking up.
If you listen carefully, you can hear me, just chop the throttle to maintain it.
I get it up around 4000- 4500, then let off the gas, then roll into it hard, it comes right up, everytime.

I weight 210 lbs, so slide your a$$ back to the hump, and do like I said, and it will come up.

start small, about 6", 12" then so on and so on, be comfortable, RIDE within your limits, and all should be fine.

Ron

 

[LongbowIP]

Oracle,

I am going to the one on the 14th. I tried for the 13th but no luck. I am still going down there on the 12 and staying till the 14th. I am trailering the Busa down so I can do some riding on the that Sat with whomever.

Tony

 

[neoBusa]

Busafied: Good suff man! for real! were u pullin up on 1st then changed to 2nd? did u use the back break at all or purely decreasing throttle power? details would help a lot. thanks and once again it looked good!
thnx ron

 

[gcal]

g-calatean: I know u were kiddin' man. I may not know how to make a wheelie, but I know some basics. Do u happen to know what is the best speed to begin making a wheelie? as a beginner...

THanx

i dont know what others say but here is how i learned;

nice ride on the freeway for 5 miles or so get of the exit (u have warm tires)

next back road or straight away turn on it

make sure no cars around even parked cars can be a problem if u fall and slide

2nd gear

4500 to 5000 RPM and snap the throltle (let off and gas it quick agian)

be ready to easy off so u dont loop.

dont hold the gas long after u snap (one quick motion)

once it comes up hold the gas position for a second or two till u feel the wheel in the air rising.

once in a 10 O;clock position let go of the gas but not hard just easy of the gas.

keep in mind once u let go the engine rpm will pull u down so if u let go quicker of the gas it will pull u down quicker

good luck and be carefull

the rest will come to u with pratice

 

[gcal]

i just read the other posting im sure between what everybody says u can do it in a few tryies

but keep in mind u could end up like this
im not trying to scare u but tring to keep u aware of the conseqences

he hit a car in front of me doing a third gear stand up in a 35 mph zone

no he didnt make it

 

[GrnClvrs]

Where is this wheelie school going on?

 

[stkr00]

Revlis:
Often times there is no need to roll off and on, just crack her open quickly in first with warm tires and up she comes.[/QUOTE]
You are officially correct. I now know exactly what it feels like when the front tire lifts. I went for a ride today, and although I may not have grown the "Full" pair, I grew part of the pair. The rest will come with time.

I went for a spirited ride on some back roads (triple digits!), along with some turns, and then found a few spots to practice. It took a few tries, but I finally got the twist rate for the throttle down. I only got the front up about 1-3 inches, but it was enough to know that it was definitely up. 5-6K then crack. I probably didn't crack it as hard as most do, but I'm in the early stages. I'll bring it up in steps until I know how it's going to act in first. I think it started to lift around 8-9K and then I let off soon after. I wasn't looking at the tack too much during all of this.

Thanks for the help Rev.


cache:
The link still doesn't work for me. The "ononewheel" link is also a ".php" file, and it works just fine. I've probably got a security setting, or cookies setting that doesn't match their requirements. It might be the Firewall/Router setup I'm running also. No big deal.

Thanks everybody for trying to help with the link, and thanks also for those who have given pointers on wheelies. Now that I've had the busa way up in the air (3") , I think I like her better with two wheels planted firmly on the pavement. I'll still practice though.

I'll bet most of us used to get yelled at in school for not having all four legs on the floor, huh?

 

[The Oracle]

Where is this wheelie school going on?

outside of Tampa in Lakeside

 

[The Oracle]

Oracle,

I am going to the one on the 14th.  I tried for the 13th but no luck.  I am still going down there on the 12 and staying till the 14th.  I am trailering the Busa down so I can do some riding on the that Sat with whomever.

Tony

Tony,

Dude, sorry that you missed our class... But, come to the Bahama Breeze in Tampa (ask Revlis for directions) on Saturday (the 13th) night and hang with us man! Revlis, BSrigley, and me (not to mention a bunch of other non-Hayabusa clowns we know) will all be hanging there. We may move on from there, so PM me and we can swap cells.

-Rip

 

[ICEMANN]

Well I wont offer any advice on the HOW TOO's because it's all been mentioned. Change of gearing helps much but alters top end some. Snappin/whackin that baby open/closed in first will shoot a 12' O-clock quick so take baby steps.

NOW I wanna share what wheelies can cost ya. Not the "oops I lost it and wrecked" obvious repairs. Those hidden repairs you hear bout but didnt think applied to you....

Im dealin with it as we speak. Cryin like an MFer tooo. Cause my arse didnt listen to what I read.

Come down a little ruffer than normal look her over nothing noticed. Whew got luckey you say.

Whilest up on one your starvin the beast for oil so you begin to dry up as well as burn/scortch up your #3 main bearings. This unwanten unseen strain burns up your #3, #4 rod bearings due to lack of oil.

Those SCREAMIN 1st gear wheelies to the rev limiter cause ya to BANG 2nd so you feel ya have to punch the beeeeeeaaaaaaatch all the way thru 6th.

Hell your Havin so much fun you do it again. Sure you didnt realize your radiator mounts have bent and your oil cooler is slopped left causin it to pound into your #3 header pipe. This causes the oil cooler to shut off some space due to bent fins and metal to metal contact.

Oh hell, you gotsa chokin grasp around the beeaatch for oil now.

So now you begin feelin those "infamous" 6th gear false neutrals that you read about and figured you puzzy foot it into gear. Your second gear feels funny and your think It's the clutch of course. You change it out for nothing but dents in the wallet.

Now you cant even keep it in second gear cause your shift forks are smoothed over and bent ta hell. The gear dogs are rounded out and the shift shafts look like pretzels.

Bottom line. Cute wheelie cost an engine removal and tear down, new gears, shafts, and forks. New Gears sent out for CNC cutting to help avoid problem in future. New main bearings, new rod bearings, new high volume oil pumps, and who knows what else. Not to mention the stuff you want to do.

Hell when I had her broke down it was to do a dayum 15,000 mile service. Cant forget to go head and change the cam chain and check the tensioner. Might as well check the pistons too.

So from me to you, and my dented and weightless wallet to yours. Re-check those cute lil arse wheelies.

ICE

 

[smallestpilot]

dont, its not worth it!

 

[neoBusa]

g-calatean: I know its dangers man, we all do, but sometimes the edge is what keeps us goin... Appreciate it though, sometimes pics like dat give u a slap in the face to wake up, but then it only takes a ride to get into the feel of danger and accept it...

Icemann: Someone will get hurt, if not the pilot, then the machine. cost is always a calculation to consider whether its wallet or health... or even both. I hope you recover financially, sooner than l8r. You know I've been riding for a while now, and never was able to wheel it up, but thats coz I never tried hard enough. I know I could if I wanted to, and believe me its not me im worried about as much as I am for the machine. Sometimes I feel I respect the machine more than I do my body & Soul. I know its wrong but what to do... and thats even before I have myself a Busa. When that day comes, my respect would mount up to full... ill probably gonna hav ta ask the bike if i could ride it!

 

[†WÃ￾§†ëD]

can ya ride one like this?


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[Revlis]

ICEMANN Makes a damn good point folks. If you ever look at the pro stunters, just about every one of their bikes is a complete POS.

My "Little" wheelies are kept to power on under acceleration out of a corner type of things, nothing more than prolly 1' 99% of the time. Small Controlled power wheelies... Constant wheelies on a Busa are prolly going to do nothing thant pound your baby and your wallet into submission... Get an SV650, should be more fun anyway...for wheelies and roughhousing I mean...