Whitney Webb... its clear...

There was a time when we had no income tax? That’s all you’ve got? This country has a system, be part of it or don’t.
Man this is sad.
As usual... you have nothing... no historically driven data that supports your point.
 
And you’re a simple troll and there’s plenty of ‘historically driven data’ that supports (that) point right here on this forum.
 
And you’re a simple troll and there’s plenty of ‘historically driven data’ that supports (that) point right here on this forum.
Look who's talking troll... every time you reply to me it's some kind of remark not worth the time it takes to read it. Now go watch the kids at the amusement park... it's the only way you can really be amused.
 
As usual... you have nothing... no historically driven data that supports your point.
Historically driven data? How about the roads, police, justice system, national defense, where do you think the funds that provide our infrastructure, the framework for our society, come from? I realize you have trust issues, but my faith and trust in my country are staples in my life. I won’t try to convince you to feel the same, but please don’t imply my faith is baseless. We’re coming up on 250 years that back me up.
 
Historically driven data? How about the roads, police, justice system, national defense, where do you think the funds that provide our infrastructure, the framework for our society, come from? I realize you have trust issues, but my faith and trust in my country are staples in my life. I won’t try to convince you to feel the same, but please don’t imply my faith is baseless. We’re coming up on 250 years that back me up.
Only one problem with your assertion... you never see the actual books that record the transactions.
 
Your personal choice is to make that assumption.
Based on the track record that reveals itself over decades the truth has become illusive. Add to that when the truth that finally gets out on other government miscues and how much was actually spent, misplaced, or in some way unaccounted for then you know you can't trust those that gave an oath.
September 10th 2001, Rumsfeld announces 2.3 trillion cannot be accounted for in the DOD budget accounting department. Look it up.
 
Based on the track record that reveals itself over decades the truth has become illusive. Add to that when the truth that finally gets out on other government miscues and how much was actually spent, misplaced, or in some way unaccounted for then you know you can't trust those that gave an oath.
September 10th 2001, Rumsfeld announces 2.3 trillion cannot be accounted for in the DOD budget accounting department. Look it up.
So.........what is your solution?

We've read enough about what the government is doing wrong.....how is this fixed?
 
So.........what is your solution?

We've read enough about what the government is doing wrong.....how is this fixed?
It's not fixable.... we can only called it out when we see it. Most of the time nothing happens because to many people are getting paid off. In China a certain level of fraud by people in government is allowable. If the leadership is too harsh on the lower ranks then things get worse for those attempting to keep the system functioning.

It's pretty much out of control here these days. We have a 2 tier justice system that allows for fraud based activities to go unpunished for a number of reasons including blackmail.

This is why I posted those videos where Myorkis is getting grilled by a few Senators. The only thing that should happen when Myorkis ( the top guy at Homeland Security and the open border fiasco ) doesn't answer questions directed at him specifically is he should be held in contempt of court and charged and jailed until he starts answering the questions he is asked to answer. Myorkis is a sworn civil servant and not a citizen in a criminal case with protections from self incrimination.

If you were in charge of a federal agency and was failing horribly at securing the border and every time you were asked a question you started giving a speech or filibustering with some pathetic list of excuses... would that be answering the questions asked? Of course not... but that is what Myorkis does... He should have been fired the first week on the job... and he use to be a Federal prosecutor... now he is just another pawn in the administration that is pro open borders. Oh... and let the new illegals vote as soon as they get here... no ID required.
 
It's not fixable.... we can only called it out when we see it. Most of the time nothing happens because to many people are getting paid off. In China a certain level of fraud by people in government is allowable. If the leadership is too harsh on the lower ranks then things get worse for those attempting to keep the system functioning.

It's pretty much out of control here these days. We have a 2 tier justice system that allows for fraud based activities to go unpunished for a number of reasons including blackmail.

This is why I posted those videos where Myorkis is getting grilled by a few Senators. The only thing that should happen when Myorkis ( the top guy at Homeland Security and the open border fiasco ) doesn't answer questions directed at him specifically is he should be held in contempt of court and charged and jailed until he starts answering the questions he is asked to answer. Myorkis is a sworn civil servant and not a citizen in a criminal case with protections from self incrimination.

If you were in charge of a federal agency and was failing horribly at securing the border and every time you were asked a question you started giving a speech or filibustering with some pathetic list of excuses... would that be answering the questions asked? Of course not... but that is what Myorkis does... He should have been fired the first week on the job... and he use to be a Federal prosecutor... now he is just another pawn in the administration that is pro open borders. Oh... and let the new illegals vote as soon as they get here... no ID required.
I watched a few of these videos and the slip and slide answers by the respondents was annoying....none of them could give a straight answer if their life depended on it...

Other videos I've watched are equally annoying when the host asks the person they are interviewing to give a definition of a woman or a man and they give a paragraph story but never a definition.....
 
Based on the track record that reveals itself over decades the truth has become illusive. Add to that when the truth that finally gets out on other government miscues and how much was actually spent, misplaced, or in some way unaccounted for then you know you can't trust those that gave an oath.
September 10th 2001, Rumsfeld announces 2.3 trillion cannot be accounted for in the DOD budget accounting department. Look it up.
Rumsfeld wasn't talking about corruption or lying, he was talking about outdated accounting systems and the fact that certain transactions had to be tracked manually. He was explaining that it was a pain in the butt and needed updating, not that the money was missing.

Oh... and let the new illegals vote as soon as they get here... no ID required.
Another load. Permanent resident immigrants can't vote either. Only United States citizens. It's people like you putting crap like that out there that is a stain on our freedom of speech. I'm not saying that freedom shouldn't exist, but that certain individuals abuse it to support various usually partisan agendas, ruining it for honest people. It's similar to criminals using guns in crime and making life more complicated for honest gun owners.
 
Rumsfeld wasn't talking about corruption or lying, he was talking about outdated accounting systems and the fact that certain transactions had to be tracked manually. He was explaining that it was a pain in the butt and needed updating, not that the money was missing.


If you followed up on Rumsfeld why you find out is that the number was estimated to be around 8 or 9 trillion. In the hearing where this was subject discussed it became laughing matter. So, what department at the Pentagon was hit on 9-11? You don't see a connection between 9-10-01 and 9-11-01 do you?

I guess it would require something more obvious to make the connection wouldn't it?

It must be true that Hani Haujour was an experienced pilot of the Boeing 757 and knew how to fly that plane down to about 10 feet off the ground at about 400 mph and hit a building with the precision of a cruise missile. I mean, how could he miss the Pentagon accounting department on a good VFR day?
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Pilot hijacker Hani Hanjour, who commandeered American Airlines Flight 77 and crashed it into the Pentagon.
 
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Rumsfeld wasn't talking about corruption or lying, he was talking about outdated accounting systems and the fact that certain transactions had to be tracked manually. He was explaining that it was a pain in the butt and needed updating, not that the money was missing.


Another load. Permanent resident immigrants can't vote either. Only United States citizens. It's people like you putting crap like that out there that is a stain on our freedom of speech. I'm not saying that freedom shouldn't exist, but that certain individuals abuse it to support various usually partisan agendas, ruining it for honest people. It's similar to criminals using guns in crime and making life more complicated for honest gun owners.

No no, jerks and the maga crowd are already prepping for their perceived defeat due solely to the 20 million illegals they claim will be voting. They just cannot imagine that their boy can be defeated any other way despite him being a traitorous criminal. I almost forgot, he doesn’t give a shiiite about our military either.

 
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I guess it would require something more obvious to make the connection wouldn't it?

It must be true that Hani Haujour was an experienced pilot of the Boeing 757 and knew how to fly that plane down to about 10 feet off the ground at about 400 mph and hit a building with the precision of a cruise missile. I mean, how could he miss the Pentagon accounting department on a good VFR day?
I'm not educated as to flight skills. What's your take? That Hanjour wasn't the pilot or that a plane didn't hit the pentagon? You are an endless river of conspiracy theories and frankly at my age, I don't have the time.
 
Obama was the pilot and he parachuted just before the plane touched down.

That’s just as believable as anything jerks says. He may even believe it.
 
No no, jerks and the maga crowd are already prepping for their perceived defeat due solely to the 20 million illegals they claim will be voting. They just cannot imagine that their boy can be defeated any other way despite him being a traitorous criminal. I almost forgot, he doesn’t give a shiiite about our military either.

You have chosen a reality that fits your mental state. Have a nice trip....
 
I'm not educated as to flight skills. What's your take? That Hanjour wasn't the pilot or that a plane didn't hit the pentagon? You are an endless river of conspiracy theories and frankly at my age, I don't have the time.
The truth will constantly escape you for as long as you lack discernment to figure out what you are actually and looking at.
Example. The Pentagon for years has had many cameras around it monitoring everything. What did we see on 9-11? 5 blurry frames showing you a blur. That's it... many cameras... 5 frames showing you nothing. The outdoor cameras at a nearby gas station had their videos immediately removed by feds. The relatively close Hotel rooftop video was also grabbed for no reason by the feds. We see no tail section ( very durable part of the plane ) and a real lack of debris at the crash site... We don't see where the 2 engines hit the recently reinforced wall. The more you look at it the less sense is makes... but... if you don't know what you are looking at then its all serves as a story meant to hypnotize the masses... and it worked out pretty good. Over time the story will continue to unravel just like some of the other crimes that changed American history.
 
You have chosen a reality that fits your mental state. Have a nice trip....

“a reality”? ‘A’ reality?

See? You think there’s more than one, like alternative (facts). Kellyanne Conway coined the term and we all know how truthful she was. There is only one reality and a fact is a fact. Unless of course you’re having ‘a nice trip’ on some kind of psychedelic.
 
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