Mr B...if shtf?...like Sam Elliot said to mel gibson in the movie "Once We Were Soldiers" when mel asked him where his rifle was as they were deploying to the LZ?...sam said...
"There'll be plenty of'em lay'in on the ground when we get there"
i've owned plenty of M1a's, M1 .30 Carbines (sweet little rifle that was btw) ar's, ak's...too numerous to list...but ya know what?..if you ever get in a situation where you need hardware like that?...you already screwed up cause your life expectancy will be measured in seconds...which is why i don't own any of those (primarily offensive rather than defensive by mission design) high cap short range spray guns anymore...just a couple good, well scoped rifles...ones a 30.06 w/ a Baush & Lomb and the other is a heavy barreld FN in .308 w/ a 3-10X42 swarovski bolted on top...and if i have a need for more ammo or a burning desire to lug a spraygun aroud as well?...like sam said...i'll pick it up off the ground...and ther'll be about 500yds of dif between the time i start landing lead and the time they can even start thinking about pulling the trigger...let alone spotting me in the 1st place...lends the option to pick and choose yer fights and?...survive...which will be the name of the game.
urban and suburb areas will be hot zones where no man will last long...i'll be headed out to the wetlands...where i can keep my family safe and see for miles with big glass...the snakes and the gators will be my brothers who will help me demoralize my enemies.
just my thoughts..L8R, Bill.