Why did they park on my freeway?
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lankeeyankee
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Why Why why................................ Why do we park on a driveway but drive on the parkway.... why are cigarettes in the front area of the pharmacy but sick people have to walk to the rear of the store to get medication????
Why did you feel as you needed to post a video over 5 minutes passing cars illegally when the video could have been edited to 45 seconds?
Have you ever had a spiteful person open the car door while your going up the middle between cars?
Oooops I dropped something out of my window I was just opening the door to pick it up as you get catapulted over a car door..
Why did you feel as you needed to post a video over 5 minutes passing cars illegally when the video could have been edited to 45 seconds?
Have you ever had a spiteful person open the car door while your going up the middle between cars?
Oooops I dropped something out of my window I was just opening the door to pick it up as you get catapulted over a car door..
880jedi
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Sorry Homespeed, this is very legal in California. No one has ever opened their door while I was lane sharing. If the California Highway Patrol do this regularly, do you think they would risk that without a severe beatdown? Do you open your door while driving down the road, (at any speed?).
If your jealous, so be it. Riding a bike has many dangers that I accept with the task. Agree?
I have to admit I'm leary of lane splitting simply because of the idiots that would try to pinch you off or open a door, etc. It's actually unlawful to open the door of a vehicle in SC when in transit 
GNBRETT
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legal yes in Cali but unless traffic is at a dead stop id think twice before doing that myself.
just too many people text messaging these days on the highway and not paying attention to where they are in their lane. its dangerous enough out there on the highway even in light traffic and people tend to panic when they hear a motorcycle near their vehicle that they dont see clealy from a distance. most people just dont expect a motorcyle to be traveling within the lane. its a crap shoot as to whether they will panic and turn left, right or suddendly brake hard.
it has its place during a traffic jam where traffic is backed up for a great distance but aside from that I think ur putting my life in the hands of some teenage chic on her phone who is an inexperienced driver or a drunk or someone who doesnt see or even hear very well. all to save a few minutes in ur commute is hardly worth it imo.
you were certainly traveling slow and relatively safe tho.
just too many people text messaging these days on the highway and not paying attention to where they are in their lane. its dangerous enough out there on the highway even in light traffic and people tend to panic when they hear a motorcycle near their vehicle that they dont see clealy from a distance. most people just dont expect a motorcyle to be traveling within the lane. its a crap shoot as to whether they will panic and turn left, right or suddendly brake hard.
it has its place during a traffic jam where traffic is backed up for a great distance but aside from that I think ur putting my life in the hands of some teenage chic on her phone who is an inexperienced driver or a drunk or someone who doesnt see or even hear very well. all to save a few minutes in ur commute is hardly worth it imo.
you were certainly traveling slow and relatively safe tho.
880jedi
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Top speed during the sharing...23mph.
Let's be very clear. This would be foolish for me to attempt this at 55mph. I have this kind of traffic every day. It's normal for me and I'm quite confident in my skillset to handle it. I wouldn't dare try a 65mph wheelie down the freeway, but to some, that's a minimal risk. I wouldn't try going 175 mph on any road, but to some that's a minimal risk. A teenager texting at 75mph is way more dangerous than texting in traffic jams.
lankeeyankee
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Homespeed?? Really?
Jealous would not be a word I would use and I will re frame from the more correct wording.
jphilipson
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I don't know why people find it so hard to believe this is safe. In CA thousands of riders do this everyday without incident. It's legal there, and drivers are used to seeing it.
880jedi
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You drew first blood. It was just a video, and didn't warrant unloading a full metal jacket on me. You just could have said, "Not my cup of tea, but you do what you like."
If you think I'm trying to rub your nose in it, I apologize. It wasn't meant to be hurtful at all, or even directed to anyone personally. It was just to show the difference in riding based on geography.
GNBRETT
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ive investigated Fatal motorcycle accidents that ocurred at 15 mph......Top speed during the sharing...23mph.
Let's be very clear. This would be foolish for me to attempt this at 55mph. I have this kind of traffic every day. It's normal for me and I'm quite confident in my skillset to handle it. I wouldn't dare try a 65mph wheelie down the freeway, but to some, that's a minimal risk. I wouldn't try going 175 mph on any road, but to some that's a minimal risk. A teenager texting at 75mph is way more dangerous than texting in traffic jams.
its not YOUR skill set I would be weary off, its the teenage drivers.
GNBRETT
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without incident? think again. motorcycles crash often in Cali from lane splitting. Motorcyclists reflect on lane-splitting after death | motorcycle, lanes, california - News - The Orange County Register
880jedi
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ive investigated Fatal motorcycle accidents that ocurred at 15 mph......
A fatal accident always seem to have more than one factor. Speed is always first looked at, then the other factors are weighed in, ie. traffic, signals, road surface, driver error, lack of emergency stopping abilities, poor tires, distractions, visibility, etc.
If the CHP do it as a normal practice, (not Code 3), then it can be safely done with proper training and practice. I have 85K on my Busa, and commute about 250 days back and forth in gridlock every year. That's 500 legs. I think that qualifies me to do keep doing this lanesharing stuff. I can still make the choice not to on any given day. It's not mandatory, and some days it just doesn't feel right, so I back off.
Is there potential for a crash? Hell yes. As any day can be your last. If the video shows me bouncing off cars like a pinball, then you can call me out on it.
880jedi
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Darwin will thin out the herd. There are plenty of ass hats in California too.
crusty369
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Usta' live out there in Orange County. Hated the traffic. Split lanes all the time. But...as I get older, and see how many people have decided that turn signals are an option, (too busy texting, watching movies, talking on their phone, etc.), I now think better of it. Not worth the risk.
Also, it was intended for bikes, (aircooled), over-heating in traffic jams. Also, not supposed to be used unless traffic is crawling. As an OTR trucker, I see it being abused by a$$holes all the time. 70mph just isn't fast enough. Splitting lanes at ridiculous speeds. Eventually, the inevitable WILL happen. Way too much faith being placed in the cage operators driving skills, I'm afraid......
Your only as safe as that one idiot allows you to be.....Driver 101.
Also, it was intended for bikes, (aircooled), over-heating in traffic jams. Also, not supposed to be used unless traffic is crawling. As an OTR trucker, I see it being abused by a$$holes all the time. 70mph just isn't fast enough. Splitting lanes at ridiculous speeds. Eventually, the inevitable WILL happen. Way too much faith being placed in the cage operators driving skills, I'm afraid......
Your only as safe as that one idiot allows you to be.....Driver 101.
I won't criticize you because what your doing is not as imminently dangerous as me blasting across Florida flats. But in the video there were literally hundreds of times when another car could have just moved over.
'oh I wanna change lanes', done, over, didnt use signal, didn't see you, omg are you ok? Yes in your examples of other things more dangerous they are. I blast out west as fast as I can go many times for miles and if something goes wrong my chances or survival are pretty nil. You are only going 20 or so but to me the chances of something going wrong are much greater for you than I. Most likely that has zero basis in fact and is just my opinion. I feel safer flying alone than sharing lanes with idiots. As already stated you are putting way way way too much trust in the cage drivers.
You are most likely sitting there formulating a response to mine and will again say its perfectly fine and safe. I can't argue that because it is your opinion and you have right to it. I've already stated mine. But I will use some of your own ammo against you. In the couple of years you've been posting vids on YouTube you have four or five ones titled 'near miss' or 'whew, close call'.
Such as this one
A couple mph faster, a millisecond later on brake, a combo of either two or many more and you'da smacked right into the side of that car. Then possibly gone down in front of moving traffic and gotten run over?
Who knows. Just seems like your pushing your luck to me is all. Legal or not be safe out there.
'oh I wanna change lanes', done, over, didnt use signal, didn't see you, omg are you ok? Yes in your examples of other things more dangerous they are. I blast out west as fast as I can go many times for miles and if something goes wrong my chances or survival are pretty nil. You are only going 20 or so but to me the chances of something going wrong are much greater for you than I. Most likely that has zero basis in fact and is just my opinion. I feel safer flying alone than sharing lanes with idiots. As already stated you are putting way way way too much trust in the cage drivers.
You are most likely sitting there formulating a response to mine and will again say its perfectly fine and safe. I can't argue that because it is your opinion and you have right to it. I've already stated mine. But I will use some of your own ammo against you. In the couple of years you've been posting vids on YouTube you have four or five ones titled 'near miss' or 'whew, close call'.
Such as this one
A couple mph faster, a millisecond later on brake, a combo of either two or many more and you'da smacked right into the side of that car. Then possibly gone down in front of moving traffic and gotten run over?
Who knows. Just seems like your pushing your luck to me is all. Legal or not be safe out there.
880jedi
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I won't criticize you because what your doing is not as imminently dangerous as me blasting across Florida flats. But in the video there were literally hundreds of times when another car could have just moved over.
'oh I wanna change lanes', done, over, didnt use signal, didn't see you, omg are you ok? Yes in your examples of other things more dangerous they are. I blast out west as fast as I can go many times for miles and if something goes wrong my chances or survival are pretty nil. You are only going 20 or so but to me the chances of something going wrong are much greater for you than I. Most likely that has zero basis in fact and is just my opinion. I feel safer flying alone than sharing lanes with idiots. As already stated you are putting way way way too much trust in the cage drivers.
You are most likely sitting there formulating a response to mine and will again say its perfectly fine and safe. I can't argue that because it is your opinion and you have right to it. I've already stated mine. But I will use some of your own ammo against you. In the couple of years you've been posting vids on YouTube you have four or five ones titled 'near miss' or 'whew, close call'.
Such as this one
A couple mph faster, a millisecond later on brake, a combo of either two or many more and you'da smacked right into the side of that car. Then possibly gone down in front of moving traffic and gotten run over?
Who knows. Just seems like your pushing your luck to me is all. Legal or not be safe out there.
Thanks for the non-threatening reply. Yes there are some near misses, and I post them on my local forum to help educate some of the newer riders as to how easy it is to get in over your head if you push the envelope. I agree that the risk is there, but as a grown man I won't ever blame anyone if I screw up. We usually end up on the short end if a car makes a bad choice, (weather lane sharing, turning left at an intersection, or running a stop sign).
Ask yourself one question? Would you sit in gridlock traffic for 15 miles each way, every day on your Busa and watch everyone else cruise by? I might as well drive the car.
It's a perk were allowed, and I make the choice to use it.
I have to admit I'm leary of lane splitting simply because of the idiots that would try to pinch you off or open a door, etc. It's actually unlawful to open the door of a vehicle in SC when in transit
Same here. As far as lane splitting. The law doesn't say no but it doesn't say yes ether. I think it would fall under wreakless operation. Then again in Idaho you must have working windshield wipers but there is no mention about needing a window.
As far as lane splitting. It would make me nervous. My thoughts on it are the same as wearing a seatbelt. I trust my driving bit not everyone else's.
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Jedi I did not mention that because I probably would wind up doing same as you. No I wouldn't sit in traffic like that. To ones who don't do it it makes them very nervous. To a person such as yourself repetition has created comfort. It's the same as if I were to climb a cliff. First time I'd be scared but with repetition I'd feel more comfy doing it. Doesn't make it any safer though. My way around that is to live five mins from work. I would rather do all I can to prevent putting myself in that situation than split lanes.
Again like I said your comfy doing that and I'm comfy doing things your not. To each his own.
Be careful out there and lean a little more forward when your shooting
Again like I said your comfy doing that and I'm comfy doing things your not. To each his own.
Be careful out there and lean a little more forward when your shooting
880jedi
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Jedi I did not mention that because I probably would wind up doing same as you. No I wouldn't sit in traffic like that. To ones who don't do it it makes them very nervous. To a person such as yourself repetition has created comfort. It's the same as if I were to climb a cliff. First time I'd be scared but with repetition I'd feel more comfy doing it. Doesn't make it any safer though. My way around that is to live five mins from work. I would rather do all I can to prevent putting myself in that situation than split lanes.
Again like I said your comfy doing that and I'm comfy doing things your not. To each his own.
Be careful out there and lean a little more forward when your shooting
I'll buy you a beer if our paths shall ever cross.
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