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yamahor

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how the hellcan the history channel compare Erik Buell to JOHN F-ing BRITTEN!?? John Britten was a GENIOUS, sure he was dyslexic, but he came up with the most revolutionary bike of our time!!!! The Britten V-1000 is my DREAM bike. After they talked about Britten's death, they tried to say Buell was just as revolutionary!!! HELL NO!!! Buell would have some cool bikes if they didn't have moped engines, But as revolutionary as the V-1000? no. The V-1000 made something like 150 hp, out of a V-twin, in the early 90's!! Buell's aren't even close to that TODAY!! The Brittens were TOYING with Ducati's on the track, Buell isn't even on the track. Sorry, I had to blow off some steam, I hold John Britten in MUCH higher regards than Erik Buell.
 
Because they have advertising dollars at stake.  Simple.

Buell is a simp who has repeatadly stood on the shoulders of others.  Britten was a fuggin genious.

Nothing revolutionary about Buell  NOTHING, and now that Harleys boot is on his throat do not look for anything either.



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The Golden Rule, he who has the gold makes the rules, or in this case rewrites history!
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POTATO. You can have em all. Genious is getting a reliable 160 hp out of 1300 cc......day in, day out.
 
I disagree completely. Say what ya like, but Eric has come up with some cool stuff.

The front brake on the XB's?
Placement of the muffler under the chassis? take a look at some of the new stuff out of Japan...they seem to agree.

Contrary to what some folks think, peak horsepower isn't everything.

Unless you have spent some time on a current Buell.....don't throw stones.
 
I disagree completely.  Say what ya like, but Eric has come up with some cool stuff.

The front brake on the XB's?
Placement of the muffler under the chassis?  take a look at some of the new stuff out of Japan...they seem to agree.

Contrary to what some folks think, peak horsepower isn't everything.

Unless you have spent some time on a current Buell.....don't throw stones.
I understand about that stuff, but he's not too far ahead of his time. Britten on the other hand was WAY ahead of his time, and he didn't use computers to help him. Ducati is JUST NOW catching up to Britten on the innovations of his work. Big HP, awesome handling. I like the mufflers and brakes on buells, but really, aside from that, nothing interesting. I just love the fact that Britten did this all from his head. Buell, while having good ideas, couldn't have done most of this without the help of computers.
 
I disagree completely. Say what ya like, but Eric has come up with some cool stuff.

The front brake on the XB's?
Placement of the muffler under the chassis? take a look at some of the new stuff out of Japan...they seem to agree.

Contrary to what some folks think, peak horsepower isn't everything.

Unless you have spent some time on a current Buell.....don't throw stones.
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Erik Buell IS a genious. Britton couldn't make a sucessful company. Buell did.

I can't stand pointless brand bashing. Grrrr...
 
I disagree completely.  Say what ya like, but Eric has come up with some cool stuff.

The front brake on the XB's?
Placement of the muffler under the chassis?  take a look at some of the new stuff out of Japan...they seem to agree.

Contrary to what some folks think, peak horsepower isn't everything.

Unless you have spent some time on a current Buell.....don't throw stones.
Problem is NOTHING on the BUELLS is Eric's doing! He's not an originator, radial brakes, underbody exhaust, Fuel/Oil in the Frame/swingarm, none of this is original thinking. It's all been done before.

His bikes? Interesting sure, but not Genious. Like I said, Shoulders of Giants.
 
I disagree completely.  Say what ya like, but Eric has come up with some cool stuff.

The front brake on the XB's?
Placement of the muffler under the chassis?  take a look at some of the new stuff out of Japan...they seem to agree.

Contrary to what some folks think, peak horsepower isn't everything.

Unless you have spent some time on a current Buell.....don't throw stones.
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Erik Buell IS a genious.  Britton couldn't make a sucessful company.  Buell did.

I can't stand pointless brand bashing.  Grrrr...
Buell couldn't run a damn thing. His company was failing!!!!! H.D. bailed him out, but he was in serious financial trouble doors about to be closed. His first bikes, junk. His new bikes, interesting, fun to ride, (If you don't mind looking goofy going down the road) and they handle nice. But, NOT revolutionary.

BUT, Buell is not a genious, he couldn't run a company.

BTW, Britten wasn't trying for commercial success, his interest was in racing, limited numbers, not mass produced bikes wrapped around an antique POS motor.
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Besides, Britten died of fuggin cancer just as things were really taking off for his program.

I can't stand pointless brand loyalty... Grrr...
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Hugs N kisses.

Rev

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I disagree completely.  Say what ya like, but Eric has come up with some cool stuff.

The front brake on the XB's?
Placement of the muffler under the chassis?  take a look at some of the new stuff out of Japan...they seem to agree.

Contrary to what some folks think, peak horsepower isn't everything.

Unless you have spent some time on a current Buell.....don't throw stones.
+1

Erik Buell IS a genious.  Britton couldn't make a sucessful company.  Buell did.

I can't stand pointless brand bashing.  Grrrr...
Buell couldn't run a damn thing.  His company was failing!!!!!  H.D. bailed him out, but he was in serious financial trouble doors about to be closed.  His first bikes, junk.  His new bikes, interesting, fun to ride, (If you don't mind looking goofy going down the road) and they handle nice.  But, NOT revolutionary.

BUT,  Buell is not a genious, he couldn't run a company.

BTW, Britten wasn't trying for commercial success, his interest was in racing, limited numbers, not mass produced bikes wrapped around an antique POS motor.    
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 Besides, Britten died of fuggin cancer just as things were really taking off for his program.  

I can't stand pointless brand loyalty...  Grrr...
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Hugs N kisses.

Rev
took the words RIGHT out of my mouth.....

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I have nothing against Buell or his bikes, I actually dig the the City X, but to call it revolutionary or call Eric a genious is just wrong.
 
Well, I never met Britten. Honestly, I couldn't tell ya who the heck he is. So for me to compare the two individuals is pointless.

I have, however, met Eric on several occasions. So yes, my outlook might be a bit skewed. He is a great guy. Without a doubt one of the most passionate motorcyclists I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

Is he a genious? Hell, I don't know. The first bikes he did were, agreeably sub-par. The sportster motor was aged when he started..let alone by 2002. The new buell powerplant is a great motor...no, it doesn't make huge peak power. It does make good usable power for the average rider. To call this motor a POS is nothing more than uneducated bashing.
Wether he "stood" on someones shoulders or not, he was the first to get the front brake idea into production, along with a few other cues the buell has.

I rode a Firebolt for a season. I loved it. It got as many stares as my bus gets. 'Cause it was different..in both looks and sound, and not in a bad way IMO. I never thought I "looked funny" going down the road on it....honestly don't care.

Oh, and Rev...ya can't stand "pointless brand loyalty"? What is so pointless about brand loyalty? I have to say, we have a LOT of that here.

Doncha think?
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Bottom line is, it's ok to not like another bike or another brand. Just no sense in calling them a pos. Just makes us look arrogant, and to some.....ignorant. I like all bikes. Just too dang bad I don't have more cheese and more room. I'd have one for every day of the week.:D
 
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