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FastLaneKen said:
Its a good move for Ducati if their goal is to increase sales of their bikes in the USA

Think about it
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Well, being a LONG time Ducati owner and Club member:cheerleader:, I really don't know anyone who would buy a Duc because Hayden is riding one. From my experience, people who buy bikes because of the FASTEST or FAVORITE rider rides one doesn't buy Exotic Bikes like MV's, Aprillas or Ducati's. They buy Honda's, Yamaha's, Suzuki's or Kawi's. Keep them until NEXT YEAR or the NEXT GREAT model (that they can't possibably even ride at 75% of the Bikes capabilities) and move on. Of course this is just my observation over the last 20 years of owning Ducs. But, maybe the graphics are changing, but I don't think so ???
So why do I think it's a bad idea for Ducati :whistle: ? Well, not because Hayden is an American (I think Hoppi could do better) , but I really don't think Hayden is capable of riding the Bike to a championship. And that's what the game is about, but I hope I'am wrong :2cents:
 
BusaBret said:
Another championship in the making? ??? If he can stay healthy and keep his head screwed on straight this should make for an interesting season!:thumbsup:
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Put down the pipe, man! Hayden doesn't have what it takes, talentwise, to win a championship. He should be happy with the one he won two or three seasons ago because it was nothing but a fluke.
 
9 minutes to go

1 48 J.LORENZO YAMAHA FIAT 1'41"488 + 0"000 + 0"000 149.55 21
2 14 R.DE PUNIET HONDA LCR 1'41"570 + 0"082 + 0"082 149.43 20
3 1 C.STONER DUCATI 1'41"679 + 0"191 + 0"109 149.27 16
4 46 V.ROSSI YAMAHA FIAT 1'41"842 + 0"354 + 0"163 149.03 19
5 4 A.DOVIZIOSO HONDA JiR 1'42"007 + 0"519 + 0"165 148.79 16
6 5 C.EDWARDS YAMAHA TECH 3 1'42"175 + 0"687 + 0"168 148.55 16
7 11 B.SPIES SUZUKI 1'42"190 + 0"702 + 0"015 148.52 18
8 69 N.HAYDEN HONDA REPSOL 1'42"206 + 0"718 + 0"016 148.50 17
9 65 L.CAPIROSSI SUZUKI 1'42"305 + 0"817 + 0"099 148.36 19
10 15 A.DE ANGELIS HONDA GRESINI 1'42"530 + 1"042 + 0"225 148.03 20
11 7 C.VERMEULEN SUZUKI 1'42"551 + 1"063 + 0"021 148.00 18
12 50 S.GUINTOLI DUCATI ALICE 1'42"704 + 1"216 + 0"153 147.78 17
13 24 T.ELIAS DUCATI ALICE 1'42"741 + 1"253 + 0"037 147.73 13
14 52 J.TOSELAND YAMAHA TECH 3 1'43"219 + 1"731 + 0"478 147.04 16
15 2 D.PEDROSA HONDA REPSOL 1'43"220 + 1"732 + 0"001 147.04 19
16 21 J.HOPKINS KAWASAKI 1'43"333 + 1"845 + 0"113 146.88 19
17 56 S.NAKANO HONDA GRESINI 1'43"385 + 1"897 + 0"052 146.81 14
18 33 M.MELANDRI DUCATI 1'43"807 + 2"319 + 0"422 146.21 18
19 13 A.WEST KAWASAKI 1'43"931 + 2"443 + 0"124 146.04 20
 
End of Qualifying. Spies and Hayden side by side! This ought to be good come race day!

1 46 V.ROSSI YAMAHA FIAT 1'40"776 + 0"000 + 0"000 150.61 25
2 1 C.STONER DUCATI 1'40"860 + 0"084 + 0"084 150.48 22
3 48 J.LORENZO YAMAHA FIAT 1'41"177 + 0"401 + 0"317 150.01 27
4 69 N.HAYDEN HONDA REPSOL 1'41"271 + 0"495 + 0"094 149.87 23
5 11 B.SPIES SUZUKI 1'41"464 + 0"688 + 0"193 149.59 24
6 14 R.DE PUNIET HONDA LCR 1'41"492 + 0"716 + 0"028 149.54 26
7 2 D.PEDROSA HONDA REPSOL 1'41"754 + 0"978 + 0"262 149.16 25
8 24 T.ELIAS DUCATI ALICE 1'41"886 + 1"110 + 0"132 148.97 21
9 52 J.TOSELAND YAMAHA TECH 3 1'41"897 + 1"121 + 0"011 148.95 19
10 5 C.EDWARDS YAMAHA TECH 3 1'41"934 + 1"158 + 0"037 148.90 22
11 4 A.DOVIZIOSO HONDA JiR 1'42"007 + 1"231 + 0"073 148.79 16
12 65 L.CAPIROSSI SUZUKI 1'42"305 + 1"529 + 0"298 148.36 19
13 50 S.GUINTOLI DUCATI ALICE 1'42"405 + 1"629 + 0"100 148.21 23
14 15 A.DE ANGELIS HONDA GRESINI 1'42"530 + 1"754 + 0"125 148.03 20
15 7 C.VERMEULEN SUZUKI 1'42"551 + 1"775 + 0"021 148.00 18
16 21 J.HOPKINS KAWASAKI 1'42"673 + 1"897 + 0"122 147.82 22
17 56 S.NAKANO HONDA GRESINI 1'42"732 + 1"956 + 0"059 147.74 23
18 33 M.MELANDRI DUCATI 1'43"807 + 3"031 + 1"075 146.21 18
19 13 A.WEST KAWASAKI 1'43"931 + 3"155 + 0"124 146.04 20
 
Hayden is a good rider, dont get me wrong BUT so is Marco Melandri and he hasnt been able to do **** on the Ducati this year. He's no rookie. I think the SIZE of the Ducati will suit Hayden much better as well. He's a dirt tracker and considering how powerful the Duc is, it will probably fit his riding style. Keep this in mind though guys, every year that passes, the development teams are catching up in power. Look at Rossi's Yamaha now. Next year could be one of the most even years we've seen yet which makes for nothing but awesome battles. Take a look at WSB to see what I mean; all kinds of different guys winning races there.
 
Nicky on a Ducati!!! Hell yea....ride the piss out of it like you did the RC51!! And win on the Ducati like you did on the RC51 TOO!!!:cheerleader::cheerleader:
 
Don't tell Ducati that anyone has caught up to them.


nitrod86gt said:
Hayden is a good rider, dont get me wrong BUT so is Marco Melandri and he hasnt been able to do **** on the Ducati this year. He's no rookie. I think the SIZE of the Ducati will suit Hayden much better as well. He's a dirt tracker and considering how powerful the Duc is, it will probably fit his riding style. Keep this in mind though guys, every year that passes, the development teams are catching up in power. Look at Rossi's Yamaha now. Next year could be one of the most even years we've seen yet which makes for nothing but awesome battles. Take a look at WSB to see what I mean; all kinds of different guys winning races there.
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Morning Warm up times from Indy!

1. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 41.553 secs
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 42.161 secs
3. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 42.301 secs
4. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 42.369 secs
5. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 42.419 secs
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 42.454 secs
7. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 42.531 secs
8. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 42.555 secs
9. Ben Spies USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 42.641 secs
10. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 42.657 secs
11. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 42.668 secs
12. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 42.704 secs
13. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 42.709 secs
14. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 42.955 secs
15. John Hopkins USA Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 43.133 secs
16. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (B) 1min 43.166 secs
17. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 43.294 secs
18. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 43.763 secs
19. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 45.101 secs
 
Funny Rossi passes Hayden 2 laps from the calling of the race... (did look like Hayden road the wheels off the bike however)
 
Hayden wrung that things neck! That was fun to watch man. Head to head battles like that are few and far between lately. They were all hunting for Puddles before the deluge hit. I think they cooked their rain tires in the first half and then needed them bad in the second half. I really wanted to see them run the last 7 laps! I think Spies could have gotten 4th.

I read all the riders quotes saying it was the worst conditions they had ever raced in until they asked Spies and he said "no, Willow Springs was"!!! Must be some big side winds out in the desert. I presume the folks at Indy will get rid of the trees before next year. Did you see all the leafs and garbage blowing across the track in front of Rossi and Hayden!


Mr Bogus said:
Funny Rossi passes Hayden 2 laps from the calling of the race... (did look like Hayden road the wheels off the bike however)
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Yup, the wind gets mighty strong at Willow Springs. A few of us do trackdays there and T8 gets hairy in the wind :O


Nicky did awesome!! When the track started to dry off he burned up the left side of his rain tires. But then it started raining again and he said part of his tire was like a slick with no grooves :O Lorenzo would have got him, but even Lorenzo was glad they called the race. Not often a rider is agreeable to stopping the race if he could continue to pick up positions, that's how bad it was. Not only was the there garbage and leaves blowing accross the track, but the wind was unpredictable and some of the safety air fences had blown up. So if someone had crashed they would have hit the wall instead of the air fence.

Spies definately could have had 5th, maybe 4th. But his visor fogged up and he had to follow or he couldn't see where he was going. That's an awesome result for Ben!! Unfortunately, it doesn't look good for his motogp chances next year... Its crazy though, he beat Ver and Cap after only his 3rd race. What is Suzuki thinking....
 
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