ZX-12 MAY BE KING!

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Erm, if you're referring to the Busa that was run at Bruntingthorpe by Superbikes mag, didn't that have some nitrous assist?
 
No i got my information from the June issue of BIKE magazine.Stock.
The one your thinking of made 250bhp 153ftlbs.They ran a top speed of 217mph.
They said with more room as much as 225-230mph!What fun :)
 
Yes, memory is first to go, ain't it?

Just too many mags with Busa tests that I've read and now started to mix-up the data.

Will check my collection first, next time.

Let's see, that's 4 Dutch, 2 German, 4 UK, 2 Belgium and up to 3 US mags that I'm subscribed to or buy regularly, with only the US mags becoming a problem to get in my little town over here.
 
If the ZX-12 tests above are true they did it right. A one way speed test is meaningless. You have to do 2 speed test on the same track in both directions and then take the average to have any meaningful data.
The ZX-12 speed would be 196+198/2 = 197 for the math challenged. However the Busa 200.2mph test could have had a huge tail wind, it would only have been valid if they came back the same way and took the average.

Just my 2 cents (however I am from Canada so my 2 cents are worth slightly less than 2 U.S. cents)
 
HEARD THROUGH A FRIEND THAT SPOKE TO RICKY GADSON ,THEY JUST GOT FINISHED TESTING .RICKY RODE THE 1/4 IN 9.8 AT 145 AND NICK FROM MOTORCYCLIST RAN TOP SPEED 196 ONE WAY AND 198 THE OTHER.THE BIKE MADE 161.6 HP.IF THIS IS TRUE IS THE ZX-12 WORTH 1200.00 MORE AT 11,999.00!WE'LL SEE WHEN ALL MAGIZINE'S TEST AND AN AVERAGE RIDER RIDES THE BIKE,ANY COMMENTS
 
Good topspeed.
but for 1200 U can skim the head, change the exhaust, do the airboxmod and U will have over 180 rwhp and MURDER the ZX12 in any way.
Just my 2 kroner ( we dont have cents here heheh :) )
 
Hmmm......

I may be wrong but...

(196 + 198)/2 = 197
196 + 198/2 = 285 new battery

better check that speedo adjuster

198/2 = 99

196 + 99 = 285 new battery

So it looks as simple as changing the Battery in the ZX12 to make it faster, so simple.
But I will suggest that you get the Lithium.



[This message has been edited by KawAbuser (edited 14 October 1999).]
 
So far all the U.S. mags"Motorcyclist",have given specs on the bike but not to much on track or street riding yet.Just have to wait until they have the extreme bike shoot out with all those bikes.I believe it will be a hype so that the mags are able to sell more issues when it comes out,most likely the Dec issue will have a full blow write up.But for most of us we will know about it via the net either one of those motorcycle drag/race web site will have more information or our Europeon friends will have the inside scoop on the ZX12.Anyway don't be shaking in your boots because we still have a bike that is waiting to have it's hidden power still to be released."Bonzi",ride safe.
 
You first assumption was correct ..... you are wrong. 197 is the number unless old math was a lot older than I thought. Better check the batteries in your calculator. We all make mistakes but I wouldn't argue or bet on you being right this time.

Easyrider.
 
I've got the Brit magazine with the 217 mph nitrous Busa writeup (it's a RED Busa!) if anyone needs any info.

PS - It DOES make a difference where the parenthesis are in a math equation.

196 + (198/2) is the same as 196 + 99
But I think we understood the computation
anyway. :)

[This message has been edited by Todd (edited 14 October 1999).]
 
SportRider ran a 9.97 did the clutch mod and ran a 9.85.
The 'Busa was run at 200.2 mph at Bruntingthorpe.Tailwind or not who says the zx12 didn't have one.
'Busa or zx12 take your pick...there's no point in having both.
 
Well if you make it around to my neck of the woods be sure and stop by - regardless of what you buy.
 
E-X-C-U-S-E M-E for not putting in the brackets. When I mentioned in the previous sentence that I was taking the average of the 2 numbers I gave people the benefit of the doubt that they could figure out the math. Obviously I was in error. I will spell out how to take the average of 2 numbers in more detail next time and not leave anything to the imagination.

However Cow-abuser, before you scratched it out in your previous email, how did you come up with 196+198/2 = 146, what the crap is that all about, even if you take into account the precedence of the / operation before the + it does not turn into 146. ?????? Who needs Lithium now, Cow-Molester??

[This message has been edited by easyrider (edited 15 October 1999).]
 
R-E-E-L-A-X, C-H-E-E-E-L-L..............

I wouldn't mind having one of each. With practical cash considerations in mind, I will have to sweet-talk a dealer into letting me test-ride each one, and then I will make the choice. I am frankly quite happy to have a choice to make. Competition is good, monopolies are only good if they don't last very long. I don't think we are going to see one monopoly on speed replaced by another. These two are going to be within a **** -hair of each other (sorry...just had to test the censorship software!)
 
I am just having fun. No need to chill.

It is close to the end of bike season here in Vancouver, BC, tension is running a little high. My messages will be more mellow when April 1 rolls around.

You lucky bums down south don't know how good you have it in the weather market. But next summer I am cruising down your way to check it out.

I am still not sure whether it will be on a BUSA or a ZX-12, I will know soon I hope.
 
All I can say is this. If and when kawi FINALLY rolls the lean mean booger machine out to finally fight the busa is when we'll all know. We can look at the tests and reviews both online and in the mags and make an evaluation there. But thats all you can get is a evaluation. Just because a zx-12 might do a 1/4 quicker then a busa, doesn't mean all those who buy one will be able to do the same. Same thing with the busa. Although some people have, I don't think everyone who owns a busa has done a 9.7 run like the mags state it can do. Let along the 200mph boogie. If the zx-12 does beat the busa then kawi did right. If it's close then they did good. If it doesn't beat the busa then they failed. Period. Either way it all boils down to which bike you like the most. No matter what happens my choice (when my financial situation hopefully comes to par) is still the Busa. Its a proven machine. Its done what its done with no excuses. It's king of the straight line and can carve curves with the likes of lighter bikes. It has set the the standard of ULTIMATE SPORT. Its a known fact that the already awesome engine IS detuned and with little mods (example: airbox,pipe, clutch mods) can become a more vicious weapon. And down the road, when we know more of what this machine is capable of, and with the aftermarket kicking in more, this is a machine that will run with new technology years down the road. All this is something i don't think the ZX-12 might have the ability to do. It was designed to fight the Blackbird and was halted from release when Suzuki gave birth to kawi's worst nightmare.I don't hate the Zx-12. I just think the busa is a better machine. It's awesome in any regions of performance, looks sweet, and has a much cleaner finish the the 12 does. And lord knows what problems the kawi might have. Atleast (hopefully) the busa will have all its bugs worked out. Come this spring, I know where my money is going.

And I know its not going to waste either.

speed
 
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