12 million mexicans cant be wrong.. some going home

[Flicka]

Threatening the man's security clearance because he has an independent opinion seems extreme to me. One can be patriotic and still disagree with some public policy.

Please trust me when I tell you that independent opinions have, can, and will cause the revocation of security clearances. I took thrasherfox's comment as a word of advice or caution much more than a threat. As such, it was not out of line.

You better slow down(spread them 40 out) because apocolypse isnt until 2012 (I have my sources)

Paging George Noory...

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night :colgate:

Well, now you should be able to straighten this whole thing out, Chris. Get to it!

Dude, You're so stupid.

That was productive...

 

[Projekt]

That was productive...

Not really, it is just a feature of the mutually abusive friendship between DO3 and myself..

 

[Flicka]

Not really, it is just a feature of the mutually abusive friendship between DO3 and myself..

Fair enough. I'd say the productivity of this thread bottomed out long ago anyway.

I hope everyone's having a great day. Later.

 

[afterhours]

we need a solution.....

we need for people to stop with the ignorance and educate thenselves on the issue....

yes, illegals are a burden to the country, but we really do enjoy the cheap labor they provide....

yes, we spend lots of money on welfare and social programs for illegals.....but we spend so much more on welfare and social programs for citizens that produce nothing, and do not put into the system...

it is easy to point fingers at illegals, but we have generations and genrations of american born, lifelong wellfare recipients....

on a broader scale, a leach is a leach...whether they came illegally, or they were lucky enough to be born here.

 

[NickSully]

Okay, after reading the first 7 pages of this thread this is the first thing I thought of:

 

[dadofthree]

we need a solution.....

we need for people to stop with the ignorance and educate thenselves on the issue....

yes, illegals are a burden to the country, but we really do enjoy the cheap labor they provide....

yes, we spend lots of money on welfare and social programs for illegals.....but we spend so much more on welfare and social programs for citizens that produce nothing, and do not put into the system...

it is easy to point fingers at illegals, but we have generations and genrations of american born, lifelong wellfare recipients....

on a broader scale, a leach is a leach...whether they came illegally, or they were lucky enough to be born here.

Love ya projekt, hope everythings well in the sandbox.

No it's not ignorance it's just two issues that need to be addressed but never will. I love bringing half of what I earn home to spend on taking care of my family

 

[Justyntym]

we need a solution.....

we need for people to stop with the ignorance and educate thenselves on the issue....

yes, illegals are a burden to the country, but we really do enjoy the cheap labor they provide....

yes, we spend lots of money on welfare and social programs for illegals.....but we spend so much more on welfare and social programs for citizens that produce nothing, and do not put into the system...

it is easy to point fingers at illegals, but we have generations and genrations of american born, lifelong wellfare recipients....

on a broader scale, a leach is a leach...whether they came illegally, or they were lucky enough to be born here.

Oh boy...your doing the liberal thing where you point at one direction and then
say see, this ain't as bad as that soo...

Generations of people on welfare is seperate issue other than illegals and they
each need to be delt with...seperately. 6,8,10,12 kids by half a dozen+ different
fathers and generations of welfare should be stopped. We need to stop paying
people to breed. Welfare should be cut off after 2-3 years barring disabled or
hardship cases (spouse dies) and money upgrades should be cut off after 2 kids
ya want 10 kids...the last 8 are on your own (or learn to keep you legs crossed
or at least use a condom...wtf).

The failure of a plan for the above issue does not in the least make illegal boarder
crossing by millions o.k.
The least of which is it changes the face of our nation. As the Democrats tend
to buy votes with social freebee programs, the country continues to turn towards
socialism (which is DOOMED to failure). 20 million impoversed people buying into
the rhetoric of govt' being all, for all (trying to taking the place of God actually) only hastens
that agenda.

I wonder if we had 20 million+ hardworking Canadians that were predominatly
republican sneaking across the boarder, what the reaction would be?

I am sorry Mexico is such a sthole that people would risk their life to cross a
desert and flaunt the laws of land for a better life. (then they come here and
fly the mexican flag , it kills me) But it's not America's fault or burden...
Nor can it support the population of every 3rd world country...

 

[afterhours]

Love ya projekt, hope everythings well in the sandbox.

No it's not ignorance it's just two issues that need to be addressed but never will. I love bringing half of what I earn home to spend on taking care of my family

the ignorance is blaming one group.....

and ignoring a bigger, more costly, group.....simply because of where they were born.

believe me i would love to bring home more of my paycheck, it pisses me off that i have no child tax credit, have no marriage tax credit...so being a single buy with no kids i am screwed....

the highest percentage of people on wellfare are white, the second is black...the third highest is hispanic, of which only a small amount are illegal(have illegal parents).

illegals did not ruin the economy....that was white men.
illegals did not give billions in bailout money to wall street....that was white men

who ruined the auto industry?


this country is being ruined by american citizens.....

 

[afterhours]

Oh boy...your doing the liberal thing where you point at one direction and then
say see, this ain't as bad as that soo...

Generations of people on welfare is seperate issue other than illegals and they
each need to be delt with...seperately. 6,8,10,12 kids by half a dozen+ different
fathers and generations of welfare should be stopped. We need to stop paying
people to breed. Welfare should be cut off after 2-3 years barring disabled or
hardship cases (spouse dies) and money upgrades should be cut off after 2 kids
ya want 10 kids...the last 8 are on your own (or learn to keep you legs crossed
or at least use a condom...wtf).

The failure of a plan for the above issue does not in the least make illegal boarder
crossing by millions o.k.
The least of which is it changes the face of our nation. As the Democrats tend
to buy votes with social freebee programs, the country continues to turn towards
socialism (which is DOOMED to failure). 20 million impoversed people buying into
the rhetoric of govt' being all, for all (trying to taking the place of God actually) only hastens
that agenda.

I wonder if we had 20 million+ hardworking Canadians that were predominatly
republican sneaking across the boarder, what the reaction would be?

I am sorry Mexico is such a sthole that people would risk their life to cross a
desert and flaunt the laws of land for a better life. (then they come here and
fly the mexican flag , it kills me) But it's not America's fault or burden...
Nor can it support the population of every 3rd world country...

you are taking a legitimate issue, and trying dismiss it by claiming its the "liberal thing"...

i am not a liberal, i am a conservative....and a republican....

simple fact: illegals do not get welfare, only american citizens...

the reason you want to address the problem that whites are 38% of welfare recipients...and blacks are 37% is because.....

a.) by fixing welfare, you not only stop 60% of welfare abuse from citizens
b.) you fix the abuse from illegals crossing the border, having kids and then getting welfare because of the children, that are citizens.

by applying intelligence to a situation you can fix the problem.....singling out one race, or group of people will not solve the problem, is racist....and would never styand up to legal appeals by ACLU, LULAC or MALDEF.....

cal;ifornia tried it with prop.187 a few years back, and it was overturned by a Circuit Court as unconstitutional.

 

[Justyntym]

Well you say illegals do not get...but with a phony ID and social...
they'll get everything.

38% of welfare recipiants are white
37% are black

Populaion of US (2006) - 74% white * 13.4% Black/African American ???

Never heard of prop .187, I'll look into it...interesting.

Of course I beleive Kalifonia could write a book...on how not to run a state.

(sorry about the liberal thing)

 

[Lycan]

Wow...so it's all the white guys fault

Basically...YES

 

[Justyntym]

Basically...YES

One way or another...I guess it is true

 

[Laylas_Mom]

One way or another...I guess it is true

oh geez...now we are bashing the white people? LOL.

 

[dadofthree]

White people are idiots, but I don't think they have the market cornered. Any way you lose the argument / debate when you start talking that BS hater

 

[Mrs.Rubber2Burn]

Okay, after reading the first 7 pages of this thread this is the first thing I thought of:

OMG I am so freakin' LMAO of that!!!

I sat and read all the pages of "entertainment" in the thread but was not going to open my mouth come heck or high water; that was too good to keep my mouth shut!

:applause:

 

[Bosshound]

Let's Find a New People's to Blame for our Problems. How About the Russians ? YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some are here Illegally Too. The Only Differance I guess is that they are not "ALIENS" :down: ......You have to SWIM across the Border instead of Fly Across the Ocean to Get that Title

 

[J'Man]

the ignorance is blaming one group.....

and ignoring a bigger, more costly, group.....simply because of where they were born.

believe me i would love to bring home more of my paycheck, it pisses me off that i have no child tax credit, have no marriage tax credit...so being a single buy with no kids i am screwed....

the highest percentage of people on wellfare are white, the second is black...the third highest is hispanic, of which only a small amount are illegal(have illegal parents).

illegals did not ruin the economy....that was white men.
illegals did not give billions in bailout money to wall street....that was white men

who ruined the auto industry?


this country is being ruined by american citizens.....

I love how you start this rant about how "ignorance is blaming one group" THEN you go about blaming whites for everything! ??? Not only are you bending stats to promote your point (i.e.- the white poplulation is much larger than blacks, so compare apples to apples by looking at ratios) but also contradict your own advice and the overall information (if you call it that) is inaccurate at best.

Could we please try to stay focused on the solutions again without bashing anyone?

 

[BusaWhipped]

Let's Find a New People's to Blame for our Problems. How About the Russians ? YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some are here Illegally Too. The Only Differance I guess is that they are not "ALIENS" :down: ......You have to SWIM across the Border instead of Fly Across the Ocean to Get that Title

OK. Illegal Alien is the correct term for anyone who entered the Country illegally, regardless of their country of origin, don't try to play it up as a racial thing. My brother-in-law is a legal alien in the United States He took the time and showed the respect for this Country to ring the doorbell and walk through the front door instead of breaking in the back door in the middle of the night. Was it easy, no. Did it take time, yes. Was it worth it for him, absolutely. His quality of life is better than the illegal aliens (I'm ok not being PC). You can pay a small price upfront to do it right, or you can pay a big price later to do it the "quick and easy" way.

You don't wan't me to get started on the welfare system in this Country. Paying people not to work. Rewarding irresponsibility Thinking the Government can take better care of the people than the the people can take care of themselves. But that is a different topic and only serves to push things into the gray.

 

[afterhours]

I love how you start this rant about how "ignorance is blaming one group" THEN you go about blaming whites for everything! ??? Not only are you bending stats to promote your point (i.e.- the white poplulation is much larger than blacks, so compare apples to apples by looking at ratios) but also contradict your own advice and the overall information (if you call it that) is inaccurate at best.

Could we please try to stay focused on the solutions again without bashing anyone?

please show me how i am bending stats?

please show me what is "innacurate"?

the core issue of the conversation is the belief by some people that the millions of illegal aliens have, are ruining this country....i have pointed out that is simply not the case....

we are not in this recession because of illegal aliens....we are in this recession because rich men(mostly white) ruined our economy.....

they ruined the auto industry, they ruined the housing industry, they even destroyed your 401k's

they shipped your jobs overseas, to save on labor and make more money for share holders...

there are not any illegals mexican day laborors working at wall street, the share holders of GM and Chrysler did not cruise the home depot parking lot when they needed a new CEO...

there are no names of illegals authorizing the $800 billion dollar financial bailout.....

and there are no illegal aliens in congress, or the state government passing laws allowing people that don't work to abuse the wellfare system...

yeah, **** is F'd up.....but even if every illegal alien left today your problems would still be here....

all our jobs would still be in india,china or some other third world country....the financial industry would still be screwed and we would still be in a recession....and the same idiots that got here would still be running the country and your state...

I have no problem blaming poeple for things, but you gotta be blaming the right people.

as the article stated illegal aliens are leaving the country, yet the recession is getting worse. how can that be? if the illegals are leaving in record numbers.

 

[NickSully]

OMG I am so freakin' LMAO of that!!!

I sat and read all the pages of "entertainment" in the thread but was not going to open my mouth come heck or high water; that was too good to keep my mouth shut!

:applause:

Well I'm glade somebody enjoyed it as much as I did!