I wonder about the market for these factory sport tour baggers..........I test rode a speed triple back in 2017 or 2018 and while it wasn't a bad ride it didn't wow me enough to buy one so I ended up with a 2017 ZX14R. I wish Triumph would resurrect the Sprint with that engine and I'd be tempted for sure, 180 HP sport touring bike would be a lot of fun. Factory panniers and top case, better windscreen and fairing for added protection would be a winner in my opinion.
Ever see those Harley bagger races? Crazy.
Baggers and Sport Touring are two different types of bikes, with that said both seem to sell OK but neither are as popular as Adventure bike these days. The Kawasaki H2SXSE is a great bike but the near 29 grand price tag caused it to be a slow seller. The C14 and FJR were victims of out of control legislators legislating them out of existence with ever increasing emission standards, that and Yamaha/Kawasaki didn't do much to update them over the past decade.I wonder about the market for these factory sport tour baggers..........
The Concours, ST1300, FJR 1300 all died off and were all stellar bikes...and you mentioned the Sprint ST....
I wonder how the Suzuki GT and Kawasaki H2SX SE bagger sales are these days?
I know, I was just using a fun term for sport bikes with factory hard bags.........Baggers and Sport Touring are two different types of bikes,
The Kawasaki H2SXSE is a great bike but the near 29 grand price tag caused it to be a slow seller. The C14 and FJR were victims of out of control legislators legislating them out of existence with ever increasing emission standards, that and Yamaha/Kawasaki didn't do much to update them over the past decade.
I've been tempted to buy a used Sprint on a couple of occasions but never pulled the trigger
Triumph will probably never resurrect the Sprint because probably not worth the effort since sales would probably be slow for a sport touring bike but I can wish :-)
So another cool term for sport touring bikes :-) Sport Tour BaggersI know, I was just using a fun term for sport bikes with factory hard bags.........
I would have thought if there was enough call for the ST, C14 and FJR that the manufacturers would have done something to keep them similar to what they did to keep the Hayabusa.....
One of our members here had an H2SXSE........and is now on Gen 3....
Throw a set of hard bags on a Busa and it could be a Hyper-bagger....LOL!So another cool term for sport touring bikes :-) Sport Tour Baggers
I think slow sales were also a contributor to the demise of those bikes along with the lack of any meaningful upgrades for the past decade or more. Honestly why buy a new C14 when its no different from a C14 that's 10 years old???
I had a 2018 H2SXSE but ended up selling it, thought I wanted a BMW S1XR, the XR is a good bike but now in hindsight I probably should have kept the Kawasaki. I love my Gen III :-)
What other bike, not counting the price, weighs under 440 pounds and has 180 hp and 94 pounds of torque?
LOL :-)Throw a set of hard bags on a Busa and it could be a Hyper-bagger....LOL!
LOL NO, not unless it's something really special. You look at great bikes over the last 10, even 15 years and it's really worth a sitdown to mull over the plusses of buying brand new. Take the BMW S1000RR for example....did you see the 2025 version? I think it looks like ass! I'd gladly take one a few years older even if it has 3 less hp. ....I mean, heck, I know these bikes hold their value nowadays, I would be tempted to fork over almost the same price for a 2022 bimmer as I would a brand new one. My buddy tells me they are making them increasingly track focussed and I guess that shouldn't be too much of a problem if you're 99% street sport riding like me. ...but if the bike becomes less visually appealing...? They broke away from the old look bigtime and it's not good. Winglets, love 'em but they got a little crazy with them. I think they could have concealed that by sticking with a more traditional paint scheme but instead, they toned the scheme down which actually emphasizes the ugliness of the shape of the bike. Heck, give me a an old 2009 S1000RR, I'd love to own that bike. You really might as well go back and enjoy what you couldn't afford at the time. You're splitting hairs on buying new. ...only thing is parts. Are parts on an old bike still available... If they are, you can pretty much make that old bike brand new.I've sat on the current version.
The dealership owner told me I could test ride it if I was a serious buyer, to which I said no thankyou.
It fits me perfectly, very comfortable, and I know that Iwould buy it if I rode it, but I can't justify spending $20k+ on a new motorcycle.
Welll ,, you said "not counting the price" but a Panigale V4. That Triumph is a cool bike. I'd still much rather own the Panigale. Lighter, stronger, in a whole nuther universe in terms of visual appeal and yes, I would pay 70% more the cost to own it. Mods? Nope, you don't mod that bike. I will agree with you though, the performance for the price is on point for the Triumph....just there's better out there and it's kind of like you're picking up on the prettied up hag you saw in the bar at closing time instead of taking home the real prize before you both got your beer goggles on.What other bike, not counting the price, weighs under 440 pounds and has 180 hp and 94 pounds of torque?