2006 Hayabusa pics!!

[stevew]

Umm, a ZX-10 and R1 are hardly more stable than a Busa, if they were, they would handle like one. I'm not a physicist, but isn't stability due directly to a greater weight? Stable is not exactly the word I would use to describe the literbikes I've had the pleasure of riding, an R1 and K5...Fun, yes, fast as hell (as fast as my bike, all things being equal ) but not stable.

Oh man....not another one.....do you own one? I own 'em both; if you think a Busa is more stable on the road than either one of them, you need to get with the program. There is absolutley no comparison, the 1000 cc's are way MORE stable at any usable speed

"Ummm"......stability is a result of design and technology, as much as is the wind tunnel testing on the busa to ensure the ultimate bragging rights. It's not simply a result of weight.

Without geting into a pissing match now: My 02 GMC Yukon Denali and my 05 300 C Hemi weigh at least 1000 LBS more than my wife's 02 Vette...so I guess they MUST be more stable. This is according to your quoted statement. I think it's because you wanna belive that your Busa is the most "everything" bike..but it's not...and if you rode the R1 and were really riding it, you wouldn't be saying what you said. Literbikes are not as twitchy as riders's like to say they are, unless you want them to be, don't know how to ride a bike, or have never ridden one but think they know enough to comment on them. A 360 lb ZX6R is more stable than a Busa...how can you even compare?

Did you also infer that the Busa handles better than a ZX10R or an R1? Are you serious or did I misunderstand you? You think that you can out-corner a liter bike with a Busa? Really?

? Busa's wobble when you put em down in the corners (even at low speeds), then they throw you into the trees, then you die or at least get real hurt.

By the way...'scuse my ignorance for asking but what's a K5?

 

[stevew]

my ZX10R and R1 eat it

*snrkx!*

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Buy one...then see who has the last laugh...this is gettin' boring...Busa is a Busa...it does what it does and nothing more. It's a very fast and powerful machine thats fun to ride on short or long trips. It handles well considerg it's a big, fat heavy bike but it isn't a handling bike when it comes to comparisons between it and liter class or 600 cc bike. I and every other impartial rider already know this. I do about 25k miles a year (not including track days) between the three sports bikes in my stall so you can argue with me all you like, but ask yourself this...if a liter bike is the bike of choice for superbike racing...how come the Busa or 12R has no place in pro racing?

 

[Mr Brown]

Oh man....not another one.....do you own one?  I own 'em both; if you think a Busa is more stable on the road than either one of them, you need to get with the program.  There is absolutley no comparison, the 1000 cc's are way MORE stable at any usable speed

"Ummm"......stability is a result of design and technology, as much as is the wind tunnel testing on the busa to ensure the ultimate bragging rights.  It's not simply a result of weight.

Without geting into a pissing match now: My 02 GMC Yukon Denali and my 05 300 C Hemi weigh at least 1000 LBS more than my wife's 02 Vette...so I guess they MUST be more stable.  This is according to your quoted statement.  I think it's because you wanna belive that your Busa is the most "everything" bike..but it's not...and if you rode the R1 and were really riding it, you wouldn't be saying what you said.  Literbikes are not as twitchy as riders's like to say they are, unless you want them to be, don't know how to ride a bike, or have never ridden one but think they know enough to comment on them.  A 360 lb ZX6R is more stable than a Busa...how can you even compare?  

Did you also infer that the Busa handles better than a ZX10R  or an R1?  Are you serious or did I misunderstand you?  You think that you can out-corner a liter bike with a Busa?  Really?

?  Busa's wobble when you put em down in the corners (even at low speeds), then they throw you into the trees, then you die or at least get real hurt.

By the way...'scuse my ignorance for asking but what's a K5?

Whatever, I know what stability means to me, and literbikes don't have as much of it as a Busa. this is inherent due to many reasons, weight being one of them. They are designed to handle well, to be "Flickable" if you will. You can not have razor sharp, almost telepathic handling and stability at the same time. Cross winds not withstanding, of course the bigger vehicles are more stable, which would you rather be in if you got caught in a bad storm?
The literbikes I have ridden require constant input to keep them tracking straight, they are willing to turn at the slightest input from the rider. This causes the twitchiness that is common with them.
Of course I don't think that the busa can outhandle a literbike, nor do I consider it the be-all end -all of motorcycles, it just does what it does, which in my case means that with minimal mods, I get to whup literbikes and just about anything else street legal at the track or in roll-ons up to about 175....
A K5 is Suzuki's designation for the current model year Gixxer 1000
Your ignorance is excused.

 

[stevew]

Oh man....not another one.....do you own one?  I own 'em both; if you think a Busa is more stable on the road than either one of them, you need to get with the program.  There is absolutley no comparison, the 1000 cc's are way MORE stable at any usable speed

"Ummm"......stability is a result of design and technology, as much as is the wind tunnel testing on the busa to ensure the ultimate bragging rights.  It's not simply a result of weight.

Without geting into a pissing match now: My 02 GMC Yukon Denali and my 05 300 C Hemi weigh at least 1000 LBS more than my wife's 02 Vette...so I guess they MUST be more stable.  This is according to your quoted statement.  I think it's because you wanna belive that your Busa is the most "everything" bike..but it's not...and if you rode the R1 and were really riding it, you wouldn't be saying what you said.  Literbikes are not as twitchy as riders's like to say they are, unless you want them to be, don't know how to ride a bike, or have never ridden one but think they know enough to comment on them.  A 360 lb ZX6R is more stable than a Busa...how can you even compare?  

Did you also infer that the Busa handles better than a ZX10R  or an R1?  Are you serious or did I misunderstand you?  You think that you can out-corner a liter bike with a Busa?  Really?

?  Busa's wobble when you put em down in the corners (even at low speeds), then they throw you into the trees, then you die or at least get real hurt.

By the way...'scuse my ignorance for asking but what's a K5?

Whatever, I know what stability means to me, and literbikes don't have as much of it as a Busa. this is inherent due to many reasons, weight being one of them. They are designed to handle well, to be "Flickable" if you will. You can not have razor sharp, almost telepathic handling and stability at the same time. Cross winds not withstanding, of course the bigger vehicles are more stable, which would you rather be in if you got caught in a bad storm?
The literbikes I have ridden require constant input to keep them tracking straight, they are willing to turn at the slightest input from the rider. This causes the twitchiness that is common with them.
Of course I don't think that the busa can outhandle a literbike, nor do I consider it the be-all end -all of motorcycles, it just does what it does, which in my case means that with minimal mods, I get to whup literbikes and just about anything else street legal at the track or in roll-ons up to about 175....
A K5 is Suzuki's designation for the current model year Gixxer 1000
Your ignorance is excused.

In crosswinds or beside 53' semi's, the Busa I have, as well as other's I have driven will not track as straight as my R1 or my 10R and they are the ones in fact that require more user input to track straight, not the 1000's. You must have ridden p-o-s bikes when you rode them, because this is very contrary to their general design and nature. Also, you would have to spend a lot of time riding one to make it a fair comparison, not just a few hours. As for speed, read the specs in the rags...top gear roll on from 60-80 mph is substantially faster on the ZX than the Busa. My 10R outpulls my Busa from 100-140 in 6th. The Busa is faster from 150-186, although not by a lot and I dont go there much...but I doubt you could spank a well driven liter bike in a straight line. As for rain...I have driven in it many times for hours on end on each of these bikes...rather be on the 1000's. Busa's have a lot RWTQ at very low RPM which makes them very nervous while twisting the throttle. They will break loose anytime in the rain at low-high speed, faster than the 1000's will. The massive TQ and delivery range more makes up for the huge weight diff. They get max TQ at about 6700 RPM where as the 1000's hit it at high 9K's...much more managable in the wet. Busa's were the king of the day in their day and not much can top them in a straight line, but the 10R and the Gixxer can stay with a Busa from 1st up to 6th...and if they don't, they won't behind by much...nothing worth disussing here anyway.

 

[GMbusa]

Open message to all of our in-house Aerodynamic engineers:  I guess you're all experts on Aerodynamics...and you've all determined that the photoshop rendition would be a a real wind drag.  Since you all seem to have the uncanny ability to clearly see this without doing any of your own wind tunnel testing...why aren't y'all doing R&D for Suzuki to make a more aerodynamic and faster Busa instead of just talking about it?  

This type of negative opinion to change is so typical when new models come out...it's funny to listen to, since most of you will eventually buy the new Busa when it does come out and no matter what, you will love it because it's a Busa.   You'd think that the Hayabusa was the greatest invention known to man...and would never need updating...holy crap...the damned bike hasn't changed in 7 years.  I would have to guess (and I say "guess" because I'm not an expert like you fellas are) that most new SS or ST bikes today have a very low drag co-efficient -- some even lower than the Busa...so whats all this fuss about lousy aerodynamics about?  You think an 05 Gixxer or R1 is less aerodynmic than the Busa?  Any of you even driven anything besides a Busa?  Gimme a break...

Busa's are truly wonderful sport touring machines and certainly have the fastest top end of the entire lot, but not necessarily the quickest.  For those of you who think the Busa is the most Aerodynamic production bike in the world, go drive a liter bike...and see what "AERODYNAMIC" and "STABLE" really means.  Busa's don't hold a candle to the new Yami, Gixxer or R1 in this sense...

As stable and aerodynamic as my Busa truly is, my ZX10R and R1 eat it in both ways.  Anyone who owns a current liter bike as well as any year Busa will tell you the same thing, but don't take my word for it, go test ride 'em.

Your right, you better leave this to me. I'm an expert!LOL

I'm a legend in my own mind.


I've heard the Honda Rebel250 will have 200hp for 06', and Honda completely redid the mirrors to have less drag than a Busa cause it was done in a windtunnel. Therefore making it a Busa killer.

FEAR THE MIGHTY REBEL!LOL

 

[him]

Could have swore teh topic of this post was about the pick of the suggested 2006 hayabusa

 

[RandomNickname]

Could have swore teh topic of this post was about the pick of the suggested 2006 hayabusa[/QUOTE]

Well yeah, but we were on the fourth page of the thread... a troll was bound to show up sooner or later.

 

[stevew]

Could have swore teh topic of this post was about the pick of the suggested 2006 hayabusa

Well yeah, but we were on the fourth page of the thread... a troll was bound to show up sooner or later. [/QUOTE]
Hmmm...1st I hijack my own thread, now I'm a troll...go figger...

 

[bs72069]

Here we go again believing everything a mag says. Anyone have any proof what bike is the most aerodynamic out there? Plus if weight didnt have any thing to do with stabability i would think that suzuki would of made the busa alot lighter than what it is. But, I'm not a rocket scientist either. So go figure.



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[Mr Brown]

In crosswinds or beside 53' semi's, the Busa I have, as well as other's I have driven will not track as straight as my R1 or my 10R and they are the ones in fact that require more user input to track straight, not the 1000's.  You must have ridden p-o-s bikes when you rode them, because this is very contrary to their general design and nature.  Also, you would have to spend a lot of time riding one to make it a fair comparison, not just a few hours.  As for speed, read the specs in the rags...top gear roll on from 60-80 mph is substantially faster on the ZX than the Busa.  My 10R outpulls my Busa from 100-140 in 6th.  The Busa is faster from 150-186, although not by a lot and I dont go there much...but I doubt you could spank a well driven liter bike in a straight line.  As for rain...I have driven in it many times for hours on end on each of these bikes...rather be on the 1000's.  Busa's have a lot RWTQ at very low RPM which makes them very nervous while twisting the throttle.  They will break loose anytime in the rain at low-high speed, faster than the 1000's will.  The massive TQ and delivery range more makes up for the huge weight diff.  They get max TQ at about 6700 RPM where as the 1000's hit it at high 9K's...much more managable in the wet.  Busa's were the king of the day in their day and not much can top them in a straight line, but the 10R and the Gixxer can stay with a Busa from 1st up to 6th...and if they don't, they won't behind by much...nothing worth disussing here anyway.

Yeah, I got to ride on special POS versions of the R1 and K5, no wait, I just can't ride, that's it.
Read what I said, MY Busa with a few mods, namely pipe, stretch and sprockets, yes it will outrun most literbikes in a straight line.
The rain? I was refering to the vehicles you mentioned, not bikes.
Anyway, you nor anyone else knows here knows what the Busa will look like for 06. It's purely rumor. Yap away I don't care. I won't be buying a new one anytime soon, mine will work until I find one I like better.

 

[BentValve]

Thanks for the info Steve, I for one appreciate the time you took to post, you seem to know your stuff.

I got beat the other day by an R1, ive raced one before and won but this time I think the race was more fair,
I was in the Busas power band and shifted on time yet that damn R1 pulled on me pretty good.
I had him at first but gradually pulled on me up to about 150 when we let off.

I love the Busa but I also love the new Gixxer 1000 (aka K5)

 

[stevew]

In crosswinds or beside 53' semi's, the Busa I have, as well as other's I have driven will not track as straight as my R1 or my 10R and they are the ones in fact that require more user input to track straight, not the 1000's.  You must have ridden p-o-s bikes when you rode them, because this is very contrary to their general design and nature.  Also, you would have to spend a lot of time riding one to make it a fair comparison, not just a few hours.  As for speed, read the specs in the rags...top gear roll on from 60-80 mph is substantially faster on the ZX than the Busa.  My 10R outpulls my Busa from 100-140 in 6th.  The Busa is faster from 150-186, although not by a lot and I dont go there much...but I doubt you could spank a well driven liter bike in a straight line.  As for rain...I have driven in it many times for hours on end on each of these bikes...rather be on the 1000's.  Busa's have a lot RWTQ at very low RPM which makes them very nervous while twisting the throttle.  They will break loose anytime in the rain at low-high speed, faster than the 1000's will.  The massive TQ and delivery range more makes up for the huge weight diff.  They get max TQ at about 6700 RPM where as the 1000's hit it at high 9K's...much more managable in the wet.  Busa's were the king of the day in their day and not much can top them in a straight line, but the 10R and the Gixxer can stay with a Busa from 1st up to 6th...and if they don't, they won't behind by much...nothing worth disussing here anyway.

Yeah, I got to ride on special POS versions of the R1 and K5, no wait, I just can't ride, that's it.
Read what I said, MY Busa with a few mods, namely pipe, stretch and sprockets, yes it will outrun most literbikes in a straight line.
The rain? I was refering to the vehicles you mentioned, not bikes.
Anyway, you nor anyone else knows here knows what the Busa will look like for 06. It's purely rumor. Yap away I don't care. I won't be buying a new one anytime soon, mine will work until I find one I like better.

 

[stevew]

Here we go again believing everything a mag says. Anyone have any proof what bike is the most aerodynamic out there? Plus if weight didnt have any thing to do with stabability i would think that suzuki would of made the busa alot lighter than what it is. But, I'm not a rocket scientist either. So go figure.

Lighter Hayabusa=Gixxer 1K, and more stable too.  Don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.  Just gotta ride one and see.  Gee...go figure.  Talk to me when you have.  Obviously you aren't clued in to this one, because you have never ridden one.   I'll just go buy every mag out there to quote the stats to you on Aerodynamics...

Weight has far less to do with stability than design, a lot of R&D and ultimately, serious testing.  My HD Road King is the biggest unstable P.O.S. on the road...and it weighs about 10 freakin' thousand pounds...the guy that said that liter bikes need more rider input than a Hayabusa is incorrect with that statement because he only drives the P.O.S. version of these bikes (and he even admitted that he can't ride).

Oh and by the way...the word is "Stability" not "stabability"...

'nuf said on that...

 

 

 

[BentValve]

 

[Oldroller]

This is getting out of hand. I just got off the phone with Mr. Mojofogo from Suzuki corporate in Japan and was officially told that the 06 busa will be sporting a newly designed 225 hp wankel engine, so there!

The change was inevitable...::

 

[8overin808]

This is getting out of hand. I just got off the phone with Mr. Mojofogo from Suzuki corporate in Japan and was officially told that the 06 busa will be sporting a newly designed 225 hp wankel engine, so there!

The change was inevitable...::

oh good i got spare rotors and cases left over from my rx-7 days!

oh and as for all the whining about litre bikes vs busa's.  wah wah wah.  you got so much money and you got so many bikes.  no one cares.  if you don't like your busa sell it to someone who can appreciate.  f'kin troll. BWAHAHAHAHA  

 

[mountainmotor]

Could have swore teh topic of this post was about the pick of the suggested 2006 hayabusa

Yeah it was and I want a Copper one

 

[paineless4u]

I like the new busa if that is what they are looking like. I rode both the R-1 And K3 and granted I am far more used to my busa. The two liter bikes was NOT as solid for me. Not sure if you want to call it stability or what but for me I felt obviously more comfortable on the busa. I guess FOR ME the liter bikes felt twitchy and unstable.

 

[RandomNickname]

I dunno why, but every time I see MCN, it looks more and more like the Enquirer...

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[stevew]

This is getting out of hand. I just got off the phone with Mr. Mojofogo from Suzuki corporate in Japan and was officially told that the 06 busa will be sporting a newly designed 225 hp wankel engine, so there!

The change was inevitable...::

oh good i got spare rotors and cases left over from my rx-7 days!

oh and as for all the whining about litre bikes vs busa's.  wah wah wah.  you got so much money and you got so many bikes.  no one cares.  if you don't like your busa sell it to someone who can appreciate.  f'kin troll. BWAHAHAHAHA  

Do you even know what a Busa is? Sounds to me like you're just another wannabe Busa owner. Never said I didn't like the Busa, in fact, maybe if you had read any of my posts in this thread, you might possibly have noticed that.