The dealer nearest me has the Orange anniversary model for $19,099
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The dealer nearest me has the Orange anniversary model for $19,099
chrisso
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They could have gone much further if they'd wanted to, but again it comes down to costs and returns. The reality is, most of the people who are prepared to buy this bike aren't willing to pay a fortune for it, and Suzuki knows that. Let's say the company went all out, blinged it with high-end shockies, reduced unsprung weight, made the motor bigger, gave it a serious tune of around 200hp+ on the back wheel, etc, well that would be really something! But the costs for Suzuki would ramp up, so now they have to flog it off and make profit. Sure, there'd still be folk baying for more, saying Suzuki hadn't done enough, and so on. But here's the real issue. An up-spec'd Hayabusa like that would cost at least - AT LEAST - $28k US (that's around $50k AU!). How many of us would be prepared to fork out that amount of doe for a Suzuki? I mean, it aint no exotic Italian, but that sort of price point places it dead centre in Unobtainiumville for most of us. The reality is, the majority of people who buy this bike aren't rich. That's why the Gen 3 is the way it is - a balance between development and keeping costs down.
On tour, Harleys and Goldwings easily outnumber every other brand 10 to 1. BMWs are probably third. And their costs start in the mid 20s and go all the way into the 40s. Of course their buyers are satisfied with -+100 hp and a starting weight of half a Volkswagen. Still, they sure sell a lot of them.
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Absolutely, I see the same thing. But they're all branded riders. The Harley guys ride around dressed in their Harley branded leather vests, open face helmets, sporting goatees and big bellies, with a scowl on their face. The BMW riders with their boxer twins, adorned from head to toe with BMW branded full protective clothing and modular helmets, meet up with their other BMW mates for a chai latte at the nearest coffee shop. Meanwhile, the Goldwing guys are a hybrid mix between the two. These brand-loyal sub-groups, made up mostly of cashed-up middled aged men, like to spend big on their equipment and bikes - so be it! But could Suzuki entice them to jump ship onto an expensive up-spec'd Hayabusa? I'd like to see Suzuki try, but unfortunately that would price the Hayabusa waaay out of my limited reach, and I suspect, most of the other average joe's to whom Suzuki rely on for their sales.
Good grief.....If I had to pay 30 grand out the door I wouldn't own a Gen III Busa. I got a great deal on my leftover 2023 for 16 grand USD out the door.
28K is a lot of coin for any bike but if Suzuki built an unspec'd Busa and the bike was equal to some of the other offerings by Ducati or BMW in that price range I think Suzuki would have buyers.
A buck here is a buck forty four in Canada. A 16K bike here would be over 23K there. Now, if you could buy one in Mexico our dollar is worth over 20 Mexican pesos.
It would have to be a spec'd out GSXR to compete against the Duck or Beemer (or R1M or CBR1kRRR)
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The Gsxr range already has the showa suspension so not like it’s new to the range. Where I live, it was $10k from a brand new Gen 2 to Gen 3. I personally can’t see the massive difference and I’ve done over 280,000kms and counting on Gen 2’s in the last 6 years.
I am definitely not saying it’s poop as I’d own another one, like many others wished Suzuki would pull their finger out and fix the plagued problems which seem rookie like.
I am definitely not saying it’s poop as I’d own another one, like many others wished Suzuki would pull their finger out and fix the plagued problems which seem rookie like.
The ZX10R? would be in that company too wouldn’t it, the 30K model? Supposed to be a pretty fast bike.
In INDIA BMW S1000R is way more expensive than HAYABUSA and to my surprise in terms of sales BMW is doing more than a BUSA.
Is 1000r more reliable than busa-NO,is it as comfortable as busa-NO,is it as stable and planted at high speeds as busa-NO,is it as easy and cheap to maintain as busa-NO.
the ONLY thing it has is more POWER.Those who are buying sports bike are only looking for POWER.Busa's orignal DNA was raw power and now since that element is missing there is not much to attract a new buyer.Gen3 with 200+ hp would have done wonders.A simple Aftermarket exhaust brings down about 15-20kgs weight.Just imagine a brand new Gen3 with 200+ horsepower and 20kgs lighter coming out of showroom.it would have done wonders.
Is 1000r more reliable than busa-NO,is it as comfortable as busa-NO,is it as stable and planted at high speeds as busa-NO,is it as easy and cheap to maintain as busa-NO.
the ONLY thing it has is more POWER.Those who are buying sports bike are only looking for POWER.Busa's orignal DNA was raw power and now since that element is missing there is not much to attract a new buyer.Gen3 with 200+ hp would have done wonders.A simple Aftermarket exhaust brings down about 15-20kgs weight.Just imagine a brand new Gen3 with 200+ horsepower and 20kgs lighter coming out of showroom.it would have done wonders.
You are correct, I should have lumped the H2 in with that group.....
That’s forced induction though.
But it's still their premiere bike....at the same level as the other premiere bikes....I don't think they make a "special" ZX10R do they?
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Still doesn't make power anywhere near the same as an H2 and it appears to have the same issue as the Gen 3 Hayabusa where it runs out of steam at higher rpms and needs velocity stacks and cams to get there...
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I was under the impression the frame was unchanged, but the Gen 3 feels noticeably snappier than my gen 1. So a different steering head angle explains it.
So I love that, and the new engine internals don't get enough love either. Euro 5 is a bitch of a constraint, but redesigning the engine for more torque lower on the power band (and left on a dyno readout) gives the bike what I call 'Sooner' power. Basically the torque thrust of a nuclear submarine, and I am down for it. Not as useful for extended swingarm drag riders, but if you're a sport rider who basically only rarely uses the top quarter of the tach, it's pretty great. How can I phrase this as simply as possible? I'd rather pleasure my ass dyno then shrink my nads with an extra 20 or 30 HP up north of 9 Grand.
I couldn't be happier with my gen 3, and if it had been pricier I wouldn't have been able to buy it.
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