9/11. Who knew?

I never mentioned or hinted at anything that claimed airplanes didn't hit the buildings in New York... how ridiculus of you to wander off with that. My point was the precision flying of the planes.... thought maybe you knew something about that... instead you go off the subject into unrelated crap.... but... that is what you do... and it kinda defines who you are.
You make it really hard to adhere to the rules of this forum. I'll just leave it where it is.
 
You make it really hard to adhere to the rules of this forum. I'll just leave it where it is.
You make it real hard to get a straight answer when you claim to know something about airplanes... like you, I will leave it here because you won't respond intelligently.
 
You are just talking ignorantly again... you must be a liberal lefty... how many sexual identities are they're? 2, 10, 50... how many?
What does sexual identity have to with immigration and bigotry?
 
These are record numbers that are involved these days. The bait is the free stuff. We have always had ways to enter legally. My wife did exactly that starting in 1983. The people that paid to enter, met the requirements to enter, passed all the test required.... these people were sworn in at the end of the process and became citizens. The bloody mess at the border making thugs rich is a disgrace to our country... its kinda like not even having a border because that invisible line on the ground means nothing to those whose first act is to break our laws.

Mexico loves this border situation... if they didn't it wouldn't be happening at the level it is right now.
That's one of the detriments of living next to a poor country where the people are treated so badly they will do anything to leave....
 
Your argument is your own government, the same government you pay taxes to and the same government sworn to protect the US against it's enemies and has sent it's sons and daughters into harms way to defend this way of life could so callously allow or orchestrate the 9/11 attacks which killed many people from all over the world's nations and then cover it all up?

Shame, shame....what's your name?
Why is that so hard for you to believe? What makes you so sure? Same people who swore an oath to protect the constitution wipe their asses with it daily.
You want me to blindly trust or believe these people?

The US Govt doesn’t give a crap about me, you, our sons and daughters or anyone else.
 
What does sexual identity have to with immigration and bigotry?
Its just a continuation of the absurd and abnormal practices now being shoved down our collective throats because some people want deviancy to be the new normal. You know... like that love group thing called Nambla... just think about it.... they want men to exploit boys for sexual pleasure and have nobody call it was it is... its perversion and its damaging to those of whom are subjected to it... have you got a counter point that says its normal and should be allowed, tolerated and accepted as normal behavior?
 
That's one of the detriments of living next to a poor country where the people are treated so badly they will do anything to leave....
Its not just the people living in Mexico... its people from all around the world. its criminals from all around the world... its molesters from all around the world. Did you know that in Japan parents can send their children off on a bus at the age of 7 to 8 years old in pairs and nobody will think anything about it or do anything to threaten the well being of those children? You do realize they're was a time when people were not so lock conscious about their homes and cars right here in America? People actually use to leave their keys in the ignition after parking on the street in the area they lived. A few rural areas might still be like that today but I couldn't tell you where they are... perhaps in Amish areas.
 
Why is that so hard for you to believe? What makes you so sure? Same people who swore an oath to protect the constitution wipe their asses with it daily.
You want me to blindly trust or believe these people?

The US Govt doesn’t give a crap about me, you, our sons and daughters or anyone else.
I would narrow that down a little bit... I would say certain groups of people in certain alphabet letter agencies that get paid of to do dirty deeds cheap are the sociopaths that have found their way to power. The governmental system has become so corrupt that it is only a matter of time before something really goes haywire.... again. The disengeniousness of the leftist dimtards and their compatriot RINO critters is much of the problem. Some of these people must sleep with Saul Alinsky's book titled Rules for Radicals under their pillow every night... how they talk and act during the day shows us that much.
 
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Its not just the people living in Mexico... its people from all around the world. its criminals from all around the world... its molesters from all around the world. Did you know that in Japan parents can send their children off on a bus at the age of 7 to 8 years old in pairs and nobody will think anything about it or do anything to threaten the well being of those children? You do realize they're was a time when people were not so lock conscious about their homes and cars right here in America? People actually use to leave their keys in the ignition after parking on the street in the area they lived. A few rural areas might still be like that today but I couldn't tell you where they are... perhaps in Amish areas.
I (and you) lived in those times, I was on a school bus at 5 going to kindergarten.....and we never locked anything growing up and nobody touched anything..

We'd go into town with guns on the gun rack of our pick up truck and even with the windows down and it sitting in the street unattended, nobody touched it.

I agree, society has changed and not for the good.
 
Why is that so hard for you to believe? What makes you so sure? Same people who swore an oath to protect the constitution wipe their asses with it daily.
You want me to blindly trust or believe these people?

The US Govt doesn’t give a crap about me, you, our sons and daughters or anyone else.
Maybe, just maybe the US might play with the lives of their own citizens but 9/11 affected citizens from all across the globe and the strike on the Pentagon could have crippled the ability of the US to organize any military response...

There's no way in my mind that the US would so blatantly fool around with the lives of it's allies in such an obvious manner....the US wasn't the only country to investigate 9/11.....all the affected countries had investigators on the ground.
 
Maybe, just maybe the US might play with the lives of their own citizens but 9/11 affected citizens from all across the globe and the strike on the Pentagon could have crippled the ability of the US to organize any military response...

There's no way in my mind that the US would so blatantly fool around with the lives of it's allies in such an obvious manner....the US wasn't the only country to investigate 9/11.....all the affected countries had investigators on the ground.
It is a tough pill to swallow to think that our government would victimize the innocent... then again, perhaps it is only a group of people that work inside our government that somehow they are able to orchestrate things right under the noses of the people we think are in charge.

This kind of stuff to a lesser degree happened after JFK fired Allen Dulles whom was head of the CIA. Dulles went home and used his house as the home office for the CIA by telling his former underlings what to do in spite of not being in the office in Washington. The guy had the charm of a snake charmer according to those that knew him.
 
It is a tough pill to swallow to think that our government would victimize the innocent... then again, perhaps it is only a group of people that work inside our government that somehow they are able to orchestrate things right under the noses of the people we think are in charge.

This kind of stuff to a lesser degree happened after JFK fired Allen Dulles whom was head of the CIA. Dulles went home and used his house as the home office for the CIA by telling his former underlings what to do in spite of not being in the office in Washington. The guy had the charm of a snake charmer according to those that knew him.
I, for one don't believe the American government had anything to do with planning or executing the 9/11 attacks.

And I know I'm not alone in this belief.....
 
I, for one don't believe the American government had anything to do with planning or executing the 9/11 attacks. And I know I'm not alone in this belief....
Oh course you aren't alone in that belief. For the simple fact it is simply to mean and cruel of an act of treason to even consider as a possibility.

After WW1 the absence of sales for military suppliers to keep the production levels up and the profits rolling in came to a standstill. An industry had been created that made huge profits for MIC members and the absence of a war happening cancelled that cash cow train of events. This is why Dwight D. Eisenhower warned US citizens in his farewell address to be wary of the MIC. Can you debunk his reason for saying what he did in 1961?
 
Oh course you aren't alone in that belief. For the simple fact it is simply to mean and cruel of an act of treason to even consider as a possibility.

After WW1 the absence of sales for military suppliers to keep the production levels up and the profits rolling in came to a standstill. An industry had been created that made huge profits for MIC members and the absence of a war happening cancelled that cash cow train of events. This is why Dwight D. Eisenhower warned US citizens in his farewell address to be wary of the MIC. Can you debunk his reason for saying what he did in 1961?
It's completely insane to think we would devise a plan that includes killing thousands of American citizens as a means to start an invasion of Iraq or any military action. WTF. This converation gets more rediculous as it continues.
 
It's completely insane to think we would devise a plan that includes killing thousands of American citizens as a means to start an invasion of Iraq or any military action. WTF. This converation gets more rediculous as it continues.
....not just American citizens but citizens from across the globe who's parent country has demanded answers and a proper investigation...

And this was done in great depth....

The conspiracy theorists have a hey-day with this sort of thing....
 
It's completely insane to think we would devise a plan that includes killing thousands of American citizens as a means to start an invasion of Iraq or any military action. WTF. This converation gets more rediculous as it continues.
When you say we replace it with they and think it could very well have been just a few people within the govt but not them directly who may have been involved. There is enough evidence throughout history to show rogue groups within have meddled with or orchestrated things that like dominos falling set things in motion.
 
It's completely insane to think we would devise a plan that includes killing thousands of American citizens as a means to start an invasion of Iraq or any military action. WTF. This converation gets more rediculous as it continues.
Well then... Then just tell us how crazy it was for Dwight Eisenhower to warn us about the MIC in his farewell address in 1961. Go ahead and tell how us mis informed the former president and Army general tasked with organizing the invasion of Normandy was during WW2 is. I mean... the guy must be a lunatic, right?

You, me, and most of the people here and of this world don't think like sociopaths and worse. That is why conspiracy theories sound and look so out of touch with reality... we simply can't get out collective heads around the idea that the value of other people lives mean nothing to some of those that have the power to destroy them through secret means.

Example.... one day Aaron Russo, RIP ( former businessman and movie producer of the movies titled "The Rose" and "Trading Places" ) had developed a friendship with Nicolas Rockefeller, the nephew of David Rockefeller. Here is just a glimpse of the contempt for humanity that is shared by some of the Rockefeller family members. Go to 7.30 and listen to the quoted discussion by Aaron when speaking with Nicolas Rockefeller.

Now, before you go off the rails... OH ! That is Alex Jones INFO Wars crap and all that other stuff you have been conditioned to NOT BELIEVE by the MSM and other sources... relax... give it a listen... calm down and determine for yourself... Does Aaron come off as a liar or a genuine human being? Then... read the comments. Also... research the Rockefeller family history. They did some great things and they also orchestrated some horrible things. At 7.30 you get a glimpse inside the smart mind of a lawyer... Nicolas Rockefellar.
 
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