Rank and File FBI.

[TucoSalimonca]

Yea Im afraid of Biden as well. He hasn't bragged about passing an acuity test. PERSON, WOMAN, MAN, CAMERA, TV

dont u buy gas though... or tried buying a car? they got fords priced 30K OVER sticker price... im not saying we need trump back... but SOMEONE who knows how to count and do math.

 

[DougE]

dont u buy gas though... or tried buying a car? they got fords priced 30K OVER sticker price... im not saying we need trump back... but SOMEONE who knows how to count and do math.

That's what i don't understand. People try to blame it all on one person for everything. Dealerships take advantage of the situation and mark up the cars as much as they want because they know people will pay the asking price. There's a lot of cause and effect going on with the chip shortages but in the end you can blame dealerships for marking up the prices. And i dont know why its a big deal that cars are priced 30k over sticker price. Its a free market so if you don't like the ford with that price, go somewhere else.

 

[TucoSalimonca]

That's what i don't understand. People try to blame it all on one person for everything. Dealerships take advantage of the situation and mark up the cars as much as they want because they know people will pay the asking price. There's a lot of cause and effect going on with the chip shortages but in the end you can blame dealerships for marking up the prices. And i dont know why its a big deal that cars are priced 30k over sticker price. Its a free market so if you don't like the ford with that price, go somewhere else.

wow man... u are justifying the collapse. YOU are suffering through this also. every time u fill up. It wasnt long ago gas was 2 bucks a gallon. He wants to BAN allll gas powered cars. Is your hatred soooooo strong ure willing to suffer through this kinda stuff forever?

 

[DougE]

wow man... u are justifying the collapse. YOU are suffering through this also. every time u fill up. It wasnt long ago gas was 2 bucks a gallon. He wants to BAN allll gas powered cars.

Lol but if i were to say there should be a limit for how much dealers can mark up the MSRP, you'd be complaining that there's too much government control.

I have not read anything regarding banning gas powered cars so i cant comment on that.

 

[TucoSalimonca]

Lol but if i were to say there should be a limit for how much dealers can mark up the MSRP, you'd be complaining that there's too much government control.

I have not read anything regarding banning gas powered cars so i cant comment on that.

in cali... 2035... restrictions are already in place.. and ure mistaken...... i would NEVER suggest govt intrusion. What im suggesting is to let the free market work and cut the red tape at the ports... stop the inspectors from looking sooo closely at oil drilling stations/ get things MOVING.. stop this regulation that slows everything down to a crawl and costs big bucks. If humans were ever a threat to this earth... mother earth would kill us all and shake us off like a case of fleas. Human beings GREATLY over-estimate our ability to do damage/ our importance in the grand scheme of things. Even if climate change was real... it would only take one global event to kill allll of us. 10000 years from now when we actually did any damage. Imagine if COVID had a 90 percent mortality rate? That was ONE virus that escaped from a damn lab... SMALL thing. We got LUCKY it wasnt a very strong virus that killed young people en masse... wouldnt take much to kill us all. We need to get this economy moving and completely forget about the damn environment. Or if u GOTTA do something about pollution... start with India and Chine where they dump oil in rivers and streams and dumpo raw hydro-carbons into the air with NO govt oversight.

 

[TallTom]

Things are really screwed up when it takes 18 months to take delivery of a non-special order car. 5 bucks a gallon gasoline. Grocery store bills are almost double..... "supply chaIn" issues... i watch this guy Joe mumble and spittle and stutter while talking and im nervous for our future. He isnt running the show. He cant be. In a few years... u give this guy a golf club and he will probably try to hump it. beginning to middle stages of dementia/senility. I hope he stops giving stuff away for free... ITS NOT FREE. Its like he hates what america stands for and wants to destroy it. like he is TRYING to destroy it.

What person with school debt that just got forgiven won't vote for him now.

So I'm in the transportation business. Instead of college I bought equipment on loans. It keeps me from buying other things unfortunately.

Will he forgive that now?

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

trump never read a book in his life.

Annnnnd he’s still a billionaire…..
Post a pic of the buildings or golf courses your name is on.
I’ll wait..

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

What person with school debt that just got forgiven won't vote for him now.

So I'm in the transportation business. Instead of college I bought equipment on loans. It keeps me from buying other things unfortunately.

Will he forgive that now?

No matter how small the amount forgiven was it’s a slap in the face to all who worked their ass off to pay theirs off. Literally tens of millions of people understood the definition of what a ‘loan’ is. These kids are in school for crying out loud and we are teaching them that they don’t have to honor their agreements to pay off loans. They will soon be running this country too. Imagine how that’ll go.

 

[TucoSalimonca]

Annnnnd he’s still a billionaire…..
Post a pic of the buildings or golf courses your name is on.
I’ll wait..

Why do it to yourself? lol. It doesnt matter how much money trumop has... people HATE him. The hatred shows and it is soul crushing. We should be moving PAST TRUMP and just get ready for ANY republican to straighten out this economy before we DONT HAVE a country. Now this stuttering/ stumbling senile criminal BIDEN is giving away MORE FREE STUFF that we all have to pay for. Maybe next will be cars... everyone gets a new corvette!!!!!!!! tax free!!!!

 

[DougE]

No matter how small the amount forgiven was it’s a slap in the face to all who worked their ass off to pay theirs off. Literally tens of millions of people understood the definition of what a ‘loan’ is. These kids are in school for crying out loud and we are teaching them that they don’t have to honor their agreements to pay off loans. They will soon be running this country too. Imagine how that’ll go.

But when businesses got PPP loans forgiven or corporations got tax breaks, no one said a word.

 

[DougE]

What person with school debt that just got forgiven won't vote for him now.

So I'm in the transportation business. Instead of college I bought equipment on loans. It keeps me from buying other things unfortunately.

Will he forgive that now?

I got part of my student loans forgiven and I wont vote for Biden.

 

[TucoSalimonca]

But when businesses got PPP loans forgiven or corporations got tax breaks, no one said a word.

the corporations PRODUCE....... participate in the free market and are a driving FORCE. So yes... historically corporations get some breaks. FREE college is a new idea with a HUGE price tag with no immediate upside. only a huge cost. The govt is giving this gift to buy votes. When the takers outnumber the workers.. we dont have a country left.

 

[TallTom]

When the takers outnumber the workers.. we dont have a country left.

That ship has already sailed.

 

[TallTom]

No matter how small the amount forgiven was it’s a slap in the face to all who worked their ass off to pay theirs off. Literally tens of millions of people understood the definition of what a ‘loan’ is. These kids are in school for crying out loud and we are teaching them that they don’t have to honor their agreements to pay off loans. They will soon be running this country too. Imagine how that’ll go.

Totally correct! For the people that worked their butts off, put off buying a lot of luxury in order to pay them off, you just insulted them.

And now they and the rest of us have a little more of our taxes used to pay off debt that was never ours.

Just brilliant!

 

[TucoSalimonca]

Totally correct! For the people that worked their butts off, put off buying a lot of luxury in order to pay them off, you just insulted them.

And now they and the rest of us have a little more of our taxes used to pay off debt that was never ours.

Just brilliant!

MORE than anything... OUR biggest concern should be NOT running the country bankrupt and losing our superpower status. We cant hand out free everything and sustain it for very long. The bottom wont hold. Alot of people work from home and only 40 hours a week and dont give a fuk about the big picture. Alot dont work or contribute at all... their hands are out looking for whatever they can get for free. And NOW the taxpayers give their kids 10K for COLLEGE... When these people outnumber the workers and companies we have an irreversible problem.

 

[DougE]

Totally correct! For the people that worked their butts off, put off buying a lot of luxury in order to pay them off, you just insulted them.

And now they and the rest of us have a little more of our taxes used to pay off debt that was never ours.

Just brilliant!

Not that I'll change your mind with any of these things but I'd like to share my story. I grew up poor but always had my basic needs taken care of. In high school, College was pushed to all the students but they never mentioned the actual cost of going. All I heard was go to college and you'll get a great job. So that's what I did. I worked in high school and had 3 jobs in college to pay for my books, gas and other expenses. I only had two months off after graduating before starting work. As soon as i started working, i started paying off my loans every month. I have never missed a payment and never have been late.

I try to live within my means because i know what it's like not to have much. I don't go out to eat, don't buy fancy clothes or shoes. If this loan forgiveness never happened, I would still have to pay for the loans because there is no getting out of them. It's not possible to file bankruptcy and have them wiped out. I still have some student loans left that I'll continue to make payments until the debt is paid.

Not all of the student borrowers are out here living in luxury and ignoring their debts. Some of us have worked since we were young and continue to work our butts off to pay back what we took.

This is the last thing I'll say regarding this because it's something we will never agree on. I do hope we can continue to have great discussion on other threads about our bikes and riding.

 

[TallTom]

Not that I'll change your mind with any of these things but I'd like to share my story. I grew up poor but always had my basic needs taken care of. In high school, College was pushed to all the students but they never mentioned the actual cost of going. All I heard was go to college and you'll get a great job. So that's what I did. I worked in high school and had 3 jobs in college to pay for my books, gas and other expenses. I only had two months off after graduating before starting work. As soon as i started working, i started paying off my loans every month. I have never missed a payment and never have been late.

I try to live within my means because i know what it's like not to have much. I don't go out to eat, don't buy fancy clothes or shoes. If this loan forgiveness never happened, I would still have to pay for the loans because there is no getting out of them. It's not possible to file bankruptcy and have them wiped out. I still have some student loans left that I'll continue to make payments until the debt is paid.

Not all of the student borrowers are out here living in luxury and ignoring their debts. Some of us have worked since we were young and continue to work our butts off to pay back what we took.

This is the last thing I'll say regarding this because it's something we will never agree on. I do hope we can continue to have great discussion on other threads about our bikes and riding.

I think you are missing my point. Everyone with school debt before you had to suck it up and live within their means to pay it off. Weather you are a basket weaver or a physician, it was paid off over time.

Same as a home mortgage or a business loan. Further for those that chose to not go to college and instead started a company and are in debt from that. Why are they not given the privilege of walking away from that.

You can't say gosh going to school was a mistake, so I don't want to have to pay for it now.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

But when businesses got PPP loans forgiven or corporations got tax breaks, no one said a word.

I did. Now we see that multiple millionaires like Kanye and similar got millions and had that loan erased. The whole ppp thing was a scam. The $600 a week to stay at home made things worse because afterward nobody wanted to go back to work. Look at what apple is going thru right now. People crying about having to go back to the office three days a week.

 

[MonkeyButtRides]

Jan 6th is another big hoax... and you and some others here have fallen for it...

Wow! You are next level crazy. Talk about sheep, you drank so much cool aid you probably piss rainbows. Trump was right about one thing, he could shoot somebody in broad day light and you orange man followers would find some way to make it ok and justified.

Bullshit like this really ruins this site.

 

[MonkeyButtRides]

The orange man sheep will just say this didn't happen, it's all fake, like Alex Jones profiting on Sandy Hook. Now that Alex Jones has finally admitted under oath in a court of law that he knew Sandy Hook was real all along and has to pay out millions for the profit he built on those Sandy Hook lies maybe Trump will think twice about having him talk at a rally or maybe the orange man sheep will run Alex Jones out of business now that he sold out by telling the truth for once.