We never ran a poll which would highlight an important point of a political debate here at H.ORG...
What percentage of members changed their political views after being presented with an argument from an opposing side?
If I had to guess, that would be zero or close to zero. Which means that arguing about politics is a waste of time, and looks more like a pissing match. Well, at least most of the time.
Which brings me to a more general observation - humans are not susceptible to logical argumentation when it comes to changing their behavior. Simply put, humans do not change (or resist to change, or rarely change) their behavior based on a logical argument, even a long and well articulated one.
On the other hand, humans easily change their behavior once they live through negative personal experience. No explanation or convincing needed. We often call this transformation as being red-pilled, which of course originated in the movie 'The Matrix'.
So, I think that most productive and least upsetting political discussion should boil down to simply stating one's beliefs and be done with it. At least, it's easy to find someone with similar views, and be happy about it.
Personally, I have no idea who is the good, who is the bad, and who is the ugly. But here are a few random things I've heard from unreliable, unverified, and not-to-be-trusted alternative media sources.
- Democrats cheated in 2020 election like there was no tomorrow. All of that has been captured, and will come out at the right time.
- Trump did not finish the border wall on purpose knowing that Biden would halt its construction, allowing unchecked illegal immigration.
- At the very end of his presidency, Trump issued a number of secret Executive Orders related to Continuation of Government under attack.
- Trump is still President, while Biden is only a resident in the White House, and is allowed to commit multiple crimes as part of the biggest secret sting operation the country ever seen, Why? This is the only way to red-pill the people without going into a civil war.
- A mass deportation of illegal immigrants will eventually occur. They are easy to find as each of them is given a free phone.
- Obama is still in charge. This is his 3rd term.
- Gitmo was upgraded to contain a lot more prisoners, presumably for traitors of this country.
- Obama was not born in the USA. In the end, he will claim his Kenyan citizenship in order to escape prosecution in the US.
- Covid was designed to throw the country into submission, change voting laws, and remove Trump. Another reason was to reduce the population as so called covid vaccines are really a slow killing bio-weapons. Elites do not need that many slaves to serve them.
- Most of mainstream media is controlled by the 3-letter agencies. Almost every day, at around 4 a.m. MSM is given talking points to push during the day.
- Many of Hollywood movies are produced in order to promote certain narratives as directed by the 3-letter agencies.
- Trump is the real patriot, and will win in 2024. As more an more people are being red-pilled, close to 90% of the people will vote for him, thus making it impossible for a democrat nominee to win even with massive cheating.
- Cheating has been taking place for decades. That's how Biden, Pelosi, and many others ended up "serving" for decades.
- Realizing that democrats are unable to win in honest election, they will try to put Trump in jail. They will succeed. Trump will go to jail for a short period of time. Not because he cannot avoid it, but because he wants to go to jail... in order to red-pill even more people.
- Realizing that Trump cannot be stopped, democrats will resort to stopping elections altogether. How? Another plandemic (not a typo), massive cyber attack, solar flare, war, and/or threat of nuclear. There are a number of ways to convince the population that we are in an emergency, and we cannot have an election.
- Nordstream gas pipeline from Russia to Germany was blown up by the US. As promised by Biden in one of his televised presentations. A few months before the explosion, US divers had "military exercises" in the area.
- Biden is corrupt beyond belief. He sold the country to foreign entities, and is now being blackmailed by Ukraine, Iran, and others. He is a psychopath and a pedophile. He is OK with that.
- Biden will not run. He will be removed by the Democrats using 25th Amendment of the Constitution (Dementia will kick into the high gear).
- Biden often fakes his dementia in order to avoid future prosecution and avoid jail. My personal observation is that he is fully coherent when he speaks in front of friendly democratic audiences, but falters other times.
- Biden will be replaced. Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama are likely contenders.
- J F K was assassinated by the C I A as they were threatened by him.
- Obama's personal chef was assassinated because he was about to come out with a book exposing Obama.
- Hillary Clinton did a lot of wet work. Not personally, of course. They have MS-13 gangs and others for that.
- Most of the elites are pedophiles. Many of them visited Epstein Island. Sex slavery is booming. Democrats continuously block release of Lolita Express flight logs.
- Almost all democrats, and many republicans in Congress/Senate are corrupt. They are mysteriously making millions on pretty modest salaries. Many speeches in Congress/Senate is the greatest show on Earth to make sheep (us) happy.
- Printing money is a federal crime... unless federal government is doing it... to the tune of trillions of dollars. A percentage of that is laundered and ends up in the pockets of politicians who are part of the gang.
I could go on and on. I am sure I missed a few rumors. And like I said, these are not my beliefs. Just what I heard. No point to argue about this. Just roll your eyes, shake you head, and move on. I couldn't sleep and had to occupy my time by spewing rumors.