? about twisties and wheelies

the_1 said:
Ok guys its been along time since ive ridden a sport bike. About 3-5 years i was able to ride wheelies on a 600 and take the curves like nothing else. Heres my problem: Got 05 busa, had it for 2wks only. Been doing abunch of ridden, getting used to the power. I bought this thing for 2gs b/c it was repoed and it was laid down. The plastics r scratched up but not cracked at all, and u cant hardley see the scratches until u get to the bike. With all that being said ive been in a closed parking lot trying to get kinda low to the ground and been trying to do some wheelies. My thing is id rather learn now then after i get the new plastics. Ive got only 2gs in this bike so any tips on what will make any of this easier for me is appreciated. I really just think its a mind thing on doing allthis b/c i now have kids. But anyway i know most of u r gonna say just ride the bike. i do love to just ride this, but im also gonna do this either with ur help or without it. I also thought of this being a family org and like i said i would really appreciate any advice. So ive been barely pulling the wheel up just in 1st gear to get an ideal how touchy it is. Do i need to go to 2nd? Also the new tires i just got r going to be on tom. and id like to take some curves alittle faster in time to come. please advise me.
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Big bike goes up, comes down and goes boom, goes up comes down boom, goes up, comes down fork seals go squirt, front steering stem bearings go crunch and steering gets loose as a*s, and possibly front frame goes crack. Big ole bike doing things its not meant to :laugh:
 
if wheelies is what you desire, shift your weight back,bring throttle to 6k rpm close, crack open quickly, and hold the wheel straight and go from there. you can bring her up in 1st and 2nd without "clutching up". the "bus" is a pig but the wheelies can be manageable with practice.

here is a suggestion for practicing lean angles. try to find an open and dirt free lot and start riding in a large circle. tighten as you get comfortable and then switch to the other direction and see how tight you can make the circle. 15-20 mph should be enough. try figure 8's once you get comfortable with that. good luck!:beerchug:
 
i used to have an 05 with a +2 rear sprocket that i perfected wheelies on.
now i have a bone stock 07 i wheelie on easily.
just gotta hit that sweet spot in 1st,(around 15 mph) gas it hard enough to loft the front, adjust throttle to keep from going over, the limiter hits at 82 mph, lettin you down easily
 
I've done one substantial wheelie on my '08. About 35mph in first-whacked the throttle a fair bit and came up to about 10 o'clock. That was enough for me! There's the very real possibility of looping the bike if you're not precise with the throttle and I don't trust my capabilities for this sort of riding enough to make it a habit. I was, by some fortunate happenstance, able to bring it down softly. What a rush! Makes me understand the desire to do it, but honestly it's not for me. By the way, at 60 years old, I might be considered one of the "Old Guys".
 
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Mount a 43 sprocket on back. Scoot yer but back and hit the throttle in first. :whistle:
 
If you want to master the illusive wheelie on the mighty busa, it takes practice, Practice, PRACTICE! I may have done more wheelies on the busa than any man alive. I've had the front wheel airborne tens of thousands of times. I don't do this so much any more but there was a time when I would go out to my favorite wheelie spot and burn an entire tank of gas doing nothing but wheelies. And I would do this four or five days a week. I guaged the life of a front tire by how many landings I had, not by mileage. Some of my friends who would go out with me on occasions would say "Damn, this looks like a landing strip at LA International".

If you are installing new tires and they happen to be Pilot Powers, you can forget about improving your wheelie skills beyond about knee high. The carcass is to light and flimsy with the aggressive profile of a race tire is extremely difficult to manage at the balance point. I've tried and it's a tough nut to crack. Get yourself a dunlop or Bridgestone (Or others) with a stiff carcass, it will make life easy. A 43T sprocket will make life much easier on your machine.

My single best pointer would be to stay away from second gear until you have mastered first!

Number two would be, if you are only going to practice once a week for 15 minutes you'll most like never see the sweet spot much less that first mile long wheelie.

Number three is, it's not mandatory to crash while learning to master the wheelie but my advise is, if you don't have proper gear, don't lift the front tire!

When you are first learning, you will be a bit hard on seals. $18 for a factory seal and $8 for oil along with an hour or so of your time is a cheap price to pay once or twice until you master the gentle landings. I still land hard on rare occasions when I miss a gear but I have not had to replace a Fork Seal in the past couple of years.

Here's a little 60 second video of a properly performed wheelie. Enjoy and Practice-Practice-Practice!



LINKY!
 
If you wheelied a 600cc it's the same idea.. Just heavier, a 16th front sprocket is enough for me, but a 16/42 combo is wicked fun in town.. But before you try to master the corners on your new tires make sure they are broken in and no oil is coming out of the tire!! I'm not a huge fan of wheelies, power wheelies yes. and I'm 27.. Age has nothing to do with it.. I just don't have the desire to buy new plastics, stunting tickets, or a trip to the hospital.
 
You want wheelie? here is a wheelie...

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The Busa is just not about wheelies & twisties. There are different bikes for different things. You would not take a GSXR 600 off road either. There is a bike for that. Long live the speed king!
 
as previously stated, it ain't the best bike for what you want to do... but you got a race horse deal there. you can put a set of soupy's +1 adjustable dogbones on and raise the rear some (im sitting about +.5) and you can take a link or two out of your chain to shorten the wheelbase. it will carve a good deal better. its different from the stretch and lower that seems to be the norm, but i really like it. ignore the haters and good luck:beerchug:
 
my 08 wheelies just fine. i dont do it often but once in a while. 2nd gear, 6k, half a hand full of throttle and she stands right up:laugh:
 
Don't wheelie often and when I do it's minimal to avoid the bike getting slammed down in front, but I can drag a knee on mine. Just find a round about or circles in an empty parking lot going faster as you get lower.
 
thanks to all for ur imput, also thanks for the vids. i think for now un til i get comfortable with the bike im going to just do the figure 8s and try to get alittle better at the twisties. then i will stay in the parking lot for ateast an hour a day til i can do some wheelies. i dont wanna bring the bike up in the air all the time. the guys that im fixn to start riding with has 600-r1s. i would just like to get mine up every once in awhile. i just dont wanna be that guy drulling lookn at the wheeling. lol:
 
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