America Is a Democracy?

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[Justyntym]

Let's hear your arguments. Yes, Republicans are welcome to respond with whatever right wing propaganda they have been indoctrinated to believe.

well for starters...how does go 'f y'rself sound?

Most right wing republicans are for what this country stood (not past tense) for.
It's the limp wristed, bleeding heart, politically correct

left that want to give the country away.

This country has so many problems and no solutions on the horizon (all 3 presidential canadates suck...hard)
even when the Washington elite know what they should do they lack the backbone to do it or are more concerned about their powerbase and kickbacks.

We let the tree huggers tell us we can't build refineries or drill in Alaska or off the coast of Florida and California while OPEC has us by the nades and we pay 4...5...10...dollars a gallon for gas. All the while our Congressmen tell us they are "conservationists" making $165,000+ a year...I could afford to be a conservationist for that much money.

They can blow the interest rate out their @##, it's the price of gas that drives the economy and we have got to break opec's back before they break ours. Imagine if the federal goverment announce 200,000 jobs for drilling in Alaska, building towns, schools, etc...we could tell opec to shove it (eventually) and gas drops to $2 a gallon...that would blow the lid off the economy.

But back to the original question...the country has ALWAYS been a Republic.

 

[Rocket_Man]

The Electoral College was designed to keep states like CAL and NY that have huge populations from basically deciding all federal elections (so the less populous states would actually have say in the matter).  

The people in these states do not all vote the same, so wouldn't that be an argument for letting the popular vote decide presidential elections? Are you saying that people in these states might be swayed by the popular opinion of the state as a whole? I live in a very conservative area, and most of my local friends consider me a left wing wacko, but my political views remain unchanged.....Projekt, point well taken

Agreed that not all in those states vote all the same, but who is to say in the future it couldn't happen? My point was that smaller states should have carry the same weight as the bigger ones - basically one state one vote. The Electoral College isn't quite to that extreme, but popular vote alone would be disasterous for the less populous states.

 

[mofuggahere]

You know, I love my country and am appalled at the media for the way my country is portrayed to the rest of the world. I am appalled at how American servicemen are portrayed in a war that has kept terrorism off of our soil for seven years now. I am appalled that there are those who put this country down and don't appreciate the freedom that we have. And I am truly appalled that it is happening on the day that we put aside to honor those that have served in our nations Armed Forces. Those that took an oath and swore to protect her. I am ashamed that a fellow countrymen would do this on this day.

I couldn't agree more, really pretty sad to see this topic on Memorial Day

 

[Aen]

The United States is a Constitutional Republic.

Right on. "and under the republic for which it stands"

 

[Over_Easy]

"And I know people are tired of hearing about gas prices, but right now, that is what is killing our economy. The gas companies are talking about the demand has gone up...well, it hasn't gone up NEARLY as fast as the prices have."

"And look at the taxes our government has put on the gas. They don't want us to drive. They want us to go to work (so we can pay taxes), then go home, and then start all over again. They have us right where they want us. They (our government) are control freaks. They do not represent us, they dictate us. The U.S. is going down hill in a fast way."

Regarding your first quote it's the limited supply factor in the supply and demand ratio that is driving the prices up not so much an increase in demand although that rises as well. Other problem is our government won't allow US Oil to drill for more of our own oil out of fear of backlash from the media and GREEN lovers. US Oil only controls 2% of the world's oil SUPPLY.

Second statement is so true. For all you 401k lovers you need to stop and think about who created this program, yep' the guvnit. Put money in now during the lowest income taxe brackets in history and in 10-15 years when the baby boomers have retired and will be sucking the nipples off government programs the much smaller work force will be left holding the bag. In order for the gov. to keep these programs alive they will end having to increase taxes including the tax you'll pay to withdraw on your 401k. Lets see: put money in at 30% tax and pull it out at 30+%. How has you 401k performed in the last year, not including your deposits?

 

[99'busa]

I doubt that what this country is now; is what our fore fathers invisioned...

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[Projekt]

Well for starters...how does go 'f y'rself sound?  

Most right wing republicans are for what this country stood (not past tense) for.
It's the limp wristed, bleeding heart, politically correct  

left that want to give the country away.

This country has so many problems and no solutions on the horizon (all 3 presidential canadates suck...hard)
even when the Washington elite know what they should do they lack the backbone to do it or are more concerned about their powerbase and kickbacks.

We let the tree huggers tell us we can't build refineries or drill in Alaska or off the coast of Florida and California while OPEC has us by the nades and we pay 4...5...10...dollars a gallon for gas. All the while our Congressmen tell us they are "conservationists" making $165,000+ a year...I could afford to be a conservationist for that much money.

They can blow the interest rate out their @##, it's the price of gas that drives the economy and we have got to break opec's back before they break ours. Imagine if the federal goverment announce 200,000 jobs for drilling in Alaska, building towns, schools, etc...we could tell opec to shove it (eventually) and gas drops to $2 a gallon...that would blow the lid off the economy.

But back to the original question...the country has ALWAYS been a Republic.

Well, that is hardly an original response..

As for the rest of your sermon. It sounds like regurgitation with no true insight. You must watch FOX news a lot.

 

[Projekt]

You know, I love my country and am appalled at the media for the way my country is portrayed to the rest of the world. I am appalled at how American servicemen are portrayed in a war that has kept terrorism off of our soil for seven years now. I am appalled that there are those who put this country down and don't appreciate the freedom that we have. And I am truly appalled that it is happening on the day that we put aside to honor those that have served in our nations Armed Forces. Those that took an oath and swore to protect her. I am ashamed that a fellow countrymen would do this on this day.

I couldn't agree more, really pretty sad to see this topic on Memorial Day

You certainly are entitled to your opinion.

Unfortunately, the lives of our nation's servicemen have been used too long as a symbol to exemplify some kind of gloriously immaculate crusade for the good of mankind.

Is it shameful to question the GOVERNMENT's agenda on memorial day? I think NOT! The lives sacrificed in our wars and honored on Memorial should be "food for thought". The direction that has been taken by our country for many years has had a direct causal impact on the numbers of fallen servicemen. You may think it is dishonorable to present this topic on this day. However, many, many citizens of this nation are forced to evaluate the validity of their LOVED ONE's, Father-Brother-Husband-Boyfriend's, death on this day, and what their life was sacrificed for.

Was the death in service for honorable eventualities or for something entirely different? Respecting the day includes debate to find the truth behind what delivers caskets draped with the stars and stripes to Arlington National Cemetery, various other National Burial places all the way down to your local resting place.

As a former servicemember who spent countless hours of my early military career rendering honors at Veteran's funeral services, I will gladly question the direction that our nation has taken, its foreign policy be it negative or positive and how it is influenced and formulated.

For that, you can tell me to go F' myself!

Thank you.. Come again.

 

[Bosshound]

Hey "Projekt" Go FU.. Yourself.....

 

[TruWrecks]

The United States is a Constitutional Republic.  There is a difference and I'm gald that we aren't a democracy.

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[Projekt]

The United States is a Constitutional Republic.  There is a difference and I'm gald that we aren't a democracy.

A constitutional republic is a state where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens. In a constitutional republic, executive, legislative, and judicial powers are separated into distinct branches and the will of the majority of the population is tempered by protections for individual rights so that no individual or group has absolute power. The fact that a constitution exists that limits the government's power makes the state constitutional. That the head(s) of state and other officials are chosen by election, rather than inheriting their positions, and that their decisions are subject to judicial review makes a state republican.

There are several varieties of democracy, some of which provide better representation and more freedoms for their citizens than others. However, if any democracy is not carefully legislated to avoid an uneven distribution of political power with balances such as the separation of powers, then a branch of the system of rule is able to accumulate power in a way that is harmful to democracy itself. The "majority rule" is often described as a characteristic feature of democracy, but without responsible government it is possible for the rights of a minority to be abused by the "tyranny of the majority". An essential process in representative democracies are competitive elections, that are fair both substantively and procedurally. Furthermore, freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press are essential so that citizens are informed and able to vote in their personal interests.

You are telling me that the majority does not rule? What do have to say about the religiously influenced antiquated laws that are still on the books? Am I to believe that the majority do not have control over mass media?
If this was a FUNCTIONING Constitutional Republic, it would be run much differently. You may say that it would decay into something like Soddom and Gommorrah, but it may result in enlightenment and free thought that man on a broad scale has never seen before.

 

[Projekt]

Hey "Projekt" Go FU.. Yourself.....

Thanks.

 

[Robot]

"Constitutional Democracy" was what I was taught in college political science. As already stated not a true democracy. I like it in principle, but "interpretation or misinterpretation" of the constitution, has made it like a "rubik's cube", keep twisting it until "they" get what they want.

    Of course all Constitutional bets are off, when the president enacts wartime powers.

 

[300Busa]

Hey "Projekt" Go FU.. Yourself.....

Thanks.

so how was it?

 

[Justyntym]

Well for starters...how does go 'f y'rself sound?  

Most right wing republicans are for what this country stood (not past tense) for.
It's the limp wristed, bleeding heart, politically correct  

left that want to give the country away.

This country has so many problems and no solutions on the horizon (all 3 presidential canadates suck...hard)
even when the Washington elite know what they should do they lack the backbone to do it or are more concerned about their powerbase and kickbacks.

We let the tree huggers tell us we can't build refineries or drill in Alaska or off the coast of Florida and California while OPEC has us by the nades and we pay 4...5...10...dollars a gallon for gas. All the while our Congressmen tell us they are "conservationists" making $165,000+ a year...I could afford to be a conservationist for that much money.

They can blow the interest rate out their @##, it's the price of gas that drives the economy and we have got to break opec's back before they break ours. Imagine if the federal goverment announce 200,000 jobs for drilling in Alaska, building towns, schools, etc...we could tell opec to shove it (eventually) and gas drops to $2 a gallon...that would blow the lid off the economy.

But back to the original question...the country has ALWAYS been a Republic.

Well, that is hardly an original response..

As for the rest of your sermon. It sounds like regurgitation with no true insight. You must watch FOX news a lot.

please...you wouldn't know insight if it bit you on your liberal arse

to busy stroking our own ego perhaps

 

[Projekt]

No insight... Stroking... Me?

 

[99'busa]

My stupid bike keeps surging ever now and then. At lights the idle will be fine then all of a sudden it decides to dip real low and die unless I rev it a little then its fine

 

[BusaWhipped]

The United States is a Constitutional Republic.  There is a difference and I'm gald that we aren't a democracy.

A constitutional republic is a state where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens. In a constitutional republic, executive, legislative, and judicial powers are separated into distinct branches and the will of the majority of the population is tempered by protections for individual rights so that no individual or group has absolute power. The fact that a constitution exists that limits the government's power makes the state constitutional. That the head(s) of state and other officials are chosen by election, rather than inheriting their positions, and that their decisions are subject to judicial review makes a state republican.

There are several varieties of democracy, some of which provide better representation and more freedoms for their citizens than others. However, if any democracy is not carefully legislated to avoid an uneven distribution of political power with balances such as the separation of powers, then a branch of the system of rule is able to accumulate power in a way that is harmful to democracy itself. The "majority rule" is often described as a characteristic feature of democracy, but without responsible government it is possible for the rights of a minority to be abused by the "tyranny of the majority". An essential process in representative democracies are competitive elections, that are fair both substantively and procedurally. Furthermore, freedom of political expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press are essential so that citizens are informed and able to vote in their personal interests.

You are telling me that the majority does not rule? What do have to say about the religiously influenced antiquated laws that are still on the books? Am I to believe that the majority do not have control over mass media?
If this was a FUNCTIONING Constitutional Republic, it would be run much differently. You may say that it would decay into something like Soddom and Gommorrah, but it may result in enlightenment and free thought that man on a broad scale has never seen before.

There is no pure, ideal government in the world.  It is run my man, and by definition that makes it flawed.  This is a functioning Contitutional Republic.  Case in point, it is a small minority that wants to drive God out of this country.  In a democracy, those people would be told to shut up or get out.  In this republic, the minority is able to overcome the will of the masses and are being very successful at erasing the moral foundation on which this country was founded.  Be careful how far you open your mind, you may let all the smart stuff fall out.

 

[Projekt]

Be careful how far you open your mind, you may let all the smart stuff fall out.

Now, I have to say that statement is just plain ridiculous.