Are we getting bored with the busa?

[Busashot]

You guys are missing the point, Hayabusas without turbos are not Hayabusas.

If that were true, then Suzuki would have put out a DragPak edition of the bike.......last time I looked they don't.....

 

[mysticblu999]

If you've never rode a boosted Busa, you don't know what you are missing.

 

[The Big Red One]

If you've never rode a boosted Busa, you don't know what you are missing.

Ridng any well boosted big bore for the first time is a mind altering experience....something you just can't put into words ::11 :smile_face_r: :yes:

 

[ZRXMAX]

I am tickled to have my 2nd Gen 1 05 Busa. First of all I want to do is get the Yosh 4 into 1 on it and get it tuned. Later, the wave rotor brakes, braided

brake lines, carbon fiber wheels, and other mods that make it look good and handle great. Hard detachable luggage would be nice.

Add carbon fiber body parts that become available. Perhaps one day get another one and make a turbo bike out of it... for those times when you just want to go out and really pull the trigger !

This country needs some autobahn style roads... especially out here in the western states.

You guys that are talking about boredom have me a bit perplexed... Anybody can create boredom if they let it happen.

My life is to short for boredom to be a part of it.

We have a rule over at my house... if its not fun we ain't doing it !

 

[JINKSTER]

well i for one have no desire to boost my busa...matter fact?...if someone offered to boost it for free i'd turn down the offer...for a number of reasons...as follows...

1. I like to ride...not just point and shoot.

2. I like to ride...not just abuse my bike 1/4 mile at a time.

3. I like to ride..which includes turns, corners and sweepers..none of which turbo's are condusive to negotiating.

4. I like to ride..bikes that don't have an increased potential of breakdown.

5. With 160 rwhp and close to 100ftlbs of torque?..it's already a sub 10 second bike that can hit 112mph in 1st gear with enough pull to yank my shoulders out of socket and i go through tires way too fast already.

these also may be some of the reasons why i've owned and loved my 10 year old GenI for so long..which leads me to wonder where it would be now had i turboed it a decade ago...probably not in my garage like it is now.

Does that sound like i don't know what i'm missing?..just curious...but hey...different strokes.

 

[PaceMaster]

Several ways to look at the safety factor between dirt and street. My take on it is.. Riding in the woods here has a greater chance of crashes (by far) than riding on the street. But the severity of the crashes while trail riding, or even woods racing (harescrambles and enduros), are almost always minor compared to the street. I say "almost" because I've seen some huge hurts come out of the woods on a stretcher, but it's very rare. Mostly limited to minor breaks as worst case things.
Motocross on the other hand, is a different animal all together. Your chances of crashing on a motocross track are very great, and the consequences can sometimes be on the par of a bad street crash. You can get away with bumps and bruises (as you can on the street), but you come up short on a big jump, or get ran over by a coupla bikes, and it can be a game ender. Just crashing at 40mph with very little protective gear in general brings about a slew of broken arms, legs, clavicals ribs, backs, necks (I always wear a Leatt brace on the track), etc.. And people do get killed doing motocross.
Personally, if I had to rate one form as more dangerous than all others, it would be motocross. It's a sure thing your going to get hurt at the MX track, only question is, how bad? All forms of motorcycles carry a certain risk factor, but that's part of what makes it fun. You do your best to minimize the risk factor by maximizing skill.
And as Steve Martin (Superbike racer, not comedian) said one time, "you can't get scared too easily in this business".

Thanks Tom. Yes i used to race Alot of MX and yes i got banged up pretty bad a few times. I did do a MX Race in 2012..that was wild at 62.
Didn't crash...that time. Now i do trail riding only...and i feel that i am a pretty good at it. I took one pretty hard digger in the first week or so of owning it....none since in 2 years and 60 hours on the ODO readout. My main point about whats safer [ street vs Dirt ] is in the dirt you are pretty much are in control of you own destiny...riding within your means and all the gear on. Street though....you never really know..Dear scare me to death. And the unpredictable cagers.

 

[Busashot]

If you've never rode a boosted Busa, you don't know what you are missing.

That's just it, I have ridden two boosted Busas and a boosted ZX14. One made 240hp the other 280hp and the ZX14 made 330hp. I know how they run and there is nothing like them......crazy acceleration once you get past 120mph. I've ridden several 200hp litre bikes one being super light and those bikes rip but don't feel like they are fast like the Big bores. I've watched a BMW S1000R take on a 280hp Hayabusa and it was beating it up to 120mph.......I have respect for all of these bikes whether a built litre, built big bore, big nitrous or big turbo......all fun as hell.

 

[mysticblu999]

well i for one have no desire to boost my busa...matter fact?...if someone offered to boost it for free i'd turn down the offer...for a number of reasons...as follows...

1. I like to ride...not just point and shoot.

2. I like to ride...not just abuse my bike 1/4 mile at a time.

3. I like to ride..which includes turns, corners and sweepers..none of which turbo's are condusive to negotiating.

4. I like to ride..bikes that don't have an increased potential of breakdown.

5. With 160 rwhp and close to 100ftlbs of torque?..it's already a sub 10 second bike that can hit 112mph in 1st gear with enough pull to yank my shoulders out of socket and i go through tires way too fast already.

these also may be some of the reasons why i've owned and loved my 10 year old GenI for so long..which leads me to wonder where it would be now had i turboed it a decade ago...probably not in my garage like it is now.

Does that sound like i don't know what i'm missing?..just curious...but hey...different strokes.

Agreed. Different strokes for different folks. But I'm pretty sure I know how to turn, unless you missed my profile pic.

The way I see it, You can't do it all on one bike. Thats why I normally have 3 or 4.

 

[Got-Busa?]

well i for one have no desire to boost my busa...matter fact?...if someone offered to boost it for free i'd turn down the offer...for a number of reasons...as follows...

1. I like to ride...not just point and shoot.

2. I like to ride...not just abuse my bike 1/4 mile at a time.

3. I like to ride..which includes turns, corners and sweepers..none of which turbo's are condusive to negotiating.

4. I like to ride..bikes that don't have an increased potential of breakdown.

5. With 160 rwhp and close to 100ftlbs of torque?..it's already a sub 10 second bike that can hit 112mph in 1st gear with enough pull to yank my shoulders out of socket and i go through tires way too fast already.

these also may be some of the reasons why i've owned and loved my 10 year old GenI for so long..which leads me to wonder where it would be now had i turboed it a decade ago...probably not in my garage like it is now.

Does that sound like i don't know what i'm missing?..just curious...but hey...different strokes.

I would argue that NONE of your points are correct....

1) A Turbo is only point and shoot if you make it that way.

2) A Turbo is not for 1/4-mile only and many do top speed and cross country rides with them.

3) You aren't going to go around a curve any faster with/without a Turbo. The speed in which you can take a corner is the same, a Turbo on the bike doesn't change that... ???

4) If it's installed and setup right it will run just fine. Even then, lack of a Turbo doesn't guarantee you'll never break down or get a flat or whatever...

5) Unless you are re-geared a BUSA will NOT do 112mph in first gear or even close to it...


But I will agree, different strokes for different folks...

 

[captain]

I would argue that NONE of your points are correct....

1) A Turbo is only point and shoot if you make it that way.

2) A Turbo is not for 1/4-mile only and many do top speed and cross country rides with them.

3) You aren't going to go around a curve any faster with/without a Turbo. The speed in which you can take a corner is the same, a Turbo on the bike doesn't change that... ???

4) If it's installed and setup right it will run just fine. Even then, lack of a Turbo doesn't guarantee you'll never break down or get a flat or whatever...

5) Unless you are re-geared a BUSA will NOT do 112mph in first gear or even close to it...


But I will agree, different strokes for different folks...

Good to see you posting up sir, it's been awhile...

 

[mysticblu999]

FYI I have 37k miles on my turbo bike. Turbo'd at 8k

 

[Got-Busa?]

Good to see you posting up sir, it's been awhile...

Howdy Capt!

Hope all is well with you and the family.

Life has just been to darn busy for me lately...

 

[GMbusa]

I had a turbo Busa. The boost was great, that's about it. Biggest freaking headache I ever had with any of my vehicles. My bigbore busa was WAY WAY WAY better. I will never turbo another bike. Ever.

 

[The Big Red One]

I would argue that NONE of your points are correct....

1) A Turbo is only point and shoot if you make it that way.

2) A Turbo is not for 1/4-mile only and many do top speed and cross country rides with them.

3) You aren't going to go around a curve any faster with/without a Turbo. The speed in which you can take a corner is the same, a Turbo on the bike doesn't change that... ???

4) If it's installed and setup right it will run just fine. Even then, lack of a Turbo doesn't guarantee you'll never break down or get a flat or whatever...

5) Unless you are re-geared a BUSA will NOT do 112mph in first gear or even close to it...


But I will agree, different strokes for different folks...

Bill, I have to agree with Got on all these points. If you ever get the chance to ride a big bore turbo you'll see they do everything the same as a stock bike.....except they accelerate a WHOLE LOT faster My zx14 turbo is stock height and wheelbase, it does everything EXACTLY the same as it did stock, except the mind warping acceleration. And a well set up turbo bike, treated responsibly, can be very reliable and last a very long time.
A guy on bikeland used his turbo 14 as a touring bike, he had 40,000+ trouble free miles and counting last time I saw his mileage, which was a couple years ago. He recently bought a new ZX14R, but still has and rides his turbo bike. I need to ask him what mileage he's up to now

Sometimes I find it hard to believe all the pre-concieved (and wrong) notions about turbo bikes
Honestly I think everyone should ride one at least once in their life....they really are a very special experience. You'd go away thinking a whole lot different about them

After my first ride I was/am hooked for life...I'll NEVER get rid of my turbo 14 :no:

 

[The Big Red One]

I had a turbo Busa. The boost was great, that's about it. Biggest freaking headache I ever had with any of my vehicles. My bigbore busa was WAY WAY WAY better. I will never turbo another bike. Ever.

I remember, but you got somebody elses headache to start with didn't you? Shoulda did the 14
Honestly tho, I built my 14 myself from a new bone stock bike....left the motor stock and run reasonable boost for about 270 to the rear wheel. Its been flawless But I also treat it like a normal street bike, no land speed or quarter mile racing...it gets ridden exactly the same as my 04 busa :yes: and its been just as reliable since 07

 

[JINKSTER]

Bill, I have to agree with Got on all these points. If you ever get the chance to ride a big bore turbo you'll see they do everything the same as a stock bike.....except they accelerate a WHOLE LOT faster My zx14 turbo is stock height and wheelbase, it does everything EXACTLY the same as it did stock, except the mind warping acceleration. And a well set up turbo bike, treated responsibly, can be very reliable and last a very long time.
A guy on bikeland used his turbo 14 as a touring bike, he had 40,000+ trouble free miles and counting last time I saw his mileage, which was a couple years ago. He recently bought a new ZX14R, but still has and rides his turbo bike. I need to ask him what mileage he's up to now

Sometimes I find it hard to believe all the pre-concieved (and wrong) notions about turbo bikes
Honestly I think everyone should ride one at least once in their life....they really are a very special experience. You'd go away thinking a whole lot different about them

After my first ride I was/am hooked for life...I'll NEVER get rid of my turbo 14 :no:

That's cool BR1..and don't get me wrong here..i'm happy to hear those who have them are tickled with'em..but i've put most of my focus, energy, time and money attempting to achieve the smoothest throttle response possible..no lags...no hits..no stumbles or soft spots...just ultra smooth and extremely predictable throttle response...butter smooth throttle response..which suites the type of riding i like best..from the high speed sweepers of florida to the dragons of 128 and the wolves of 180..and everything inbetween...and i'm not saying that a turboed bike can't go fast with the right rider in such venues but..it's just not for me..and of the 3 aqquaintances i've ridden with (over the years) who've boosted their busa's?..2 of them wound up with grenaded engines..and me being an old family kinda guy?..before i'd drop $3-4 grand on a turbo for Oren?..i'd stable another bike..(just missed an RC51 a couple weeks ago for that kinda money) or take the family on a cruise! LOL!