Biden sends you money to the Palestiniase

Hi Now we are sending your money to the Palestinianses. Yes they do need money to help the people that are hurt. BUT Harmas will only use your money to buy more guns and rockets!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY HATE US.
 
Hi Now we are sending your money to the Palestinianses. Yes they do need money to help the people that are hurt. BUT Harmas will only use your money to buy more guns and rockets!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY HATE US.
Hi Biden had sent the Palestiniase 100 million this year and now this year they are shooting rockets into Israel. How do you think they spent the money? Do you think they use the money to help there people? Or maybe to buy rockets?
 
As a "superpower" the US has taken on the responsibility to aid the less fortunate around the world. Many other countries contribute as well but the US has generally taken the lead.

The US also gains a pile of money when it comes to the sale of arms and war materials, this amount of revenue far surpasses any funds given to aid agencies.

There is a huge difference between the Hamas and the regular everyday Palestinian people the same as in every other country the US provides aid to (Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc), where ISIS, Alqaeda and the rest of that bunch of zealots...

When the US pulled out of providing world aid, it lost quite a bit of respect the world over...
 
The Palestinians are under occupation by Israel. They are being kept in a state of perpetual poverty and this leads to a revolt, as it did in France, Spain, Italy, and yes America. The conflict between Israel and Palestine is a proxy war between the East and the West, much like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc.

We give money to both sides to keep some level of stability between the 2 sides. If either side gets too desperate, they will strike out violently. Even the millions we invest in this situation are a drop in the bucket if hostility breaks out in an area so critical to the world economy. Trump's completely one-sided pro-Israel stance has left things extremely unbalanced, so violence was sure to follow. Throw in a currently dysfunctional Israeli government and you have a potential war.

It's not clear who is firing the rockets. Hamas is notorious for using the Palestinian people as expendable human shields for their aggressions. They are a proxy for the Arab nation's hatred of the Jewish state.

Quite the mess. I think this time it may be real and war is inevitable.
 
The Israelis have been a stable member of the nuclear weapons community since I was born. I sure don't want to see them overrun by anyone. What if Hamas gets their hands on the nukes? It's unfortunate that Palestine is beat up by both Hamas and Israel but sometimes logic has to take presidence over compassion. I guess that's what defines war and this is a war. We're not in it but we do have a stake in who wins.
 
There are several nuclear states in the middle east. Saudi Arabia probably has them through oil agreements with Pakistan. Iran may or may not have them. Interestingly, nukes are a pain in the arse to have. The maintenance costs are crazy, and the risk of a mistake is grave. No one can actually explode one without severe consequences (like N. Korea). So the drain on a smaller country's resources to possess a nuclear weapon that is strategically un-usable is a bit silly.

I don't know what you mean by "stable". Trump was as reckless as it gets (i.e. pulling out of SALT and the Iran agreements, and the world watched the leader of the "arsenal of democracy" lead an insurrection) and Netanyahu is in all kinds of hot water from looming indictments and he is unable to establish a governing coalition.

I think we have to support Israel, but we need to reel them in so they stop oppressing their neighbors while claiming the world wants to do away with them. The Palestinians deserve a homeland just like the Jews do. This is why no thinking president has acknowledged Jerusalem as the capital. In moving our embassy to Jerusalem, Trump basically said to Israel you are free to do what you want.

Remember, this is not the first time we had the rocket problem. Previous Presidents told Israel to not escalate the situation and then we paid Hammas to knock it off or we let Israel off its leash. A very cheap solution in the grand scheme of things.
 
@fallenarch by "stable" I mean Israel possessed nuclear weapons from the start and has only kept them in defense of itself under the mutual destruction strategy. My concern is that a terrorist group might launch them immediately or threaten to do so if they can get their hands on them. Terrorists are "do or die." They have nothing to loose and everything to gain. Mutual destruction doesn't mean a whole lot to a terrorist, they destroy themselves and their own people in acts of war and the bigger the better. We've seen it over and over. I believe it's in our best interest to be on good terms with the nuclear superpowers and do everything we can to keep the rest of the world out of the club.
 
@fallenarch by "stable" I mean Israel possessed nuclear weapons from the start and has only kept them in defense of itself under the mutual destruction strategy. My concern is that a terrorist group might launch them immediately or threaten to do so if they can get their hands on them. Terrorists are "do or die." They have nothing to loose and everything to gain. Mutual destruction doesn't mean a whole lot to a terrorist, they destroy themselves and their own people in acts of war and the bigger the better. We've seen it over and over. I believe it's in our best interest to be on good terms with the nuclear superpowers and do everything we can to keep the rest of the world out of the club.
I think you may be looking at this through the "those terrorists are crazed maniacs" paradigm. That is a Hollywood version of reality. Desperate people do act in desperation. But no group or state would benefit from exploding a nuclear weapon in a major western city. Osama Bin Laden found out a major terror strike has the opposite effect to what you might think. It just gives the people in power an excuse to issue "terminate with extreme prejudice" orders.

The real weapon now is hacking. That's what we should be worried about.
 
I think you may be looking at this through the "those terrorists are crazed maniacs" paradigm. That is a Hollywood version of reality. Desperate people do act in desperation. But no group or state would benefit from exploding a nuclear weapon in a major western city. Osama Bin Laden found out a major terror strike has the opposite effect to what you might think. It just gives the people in power an excuse to issue "terminate with extreme prejudice" orders.

The real weapon now is hacking. That's what we should be worried about.
That's a fact right there.....the bad guys are getting more tech savvy and have found force on force combat is not to their advantage...
 
We take a look into Afghanistan and see the Taliban stepping up attacks on soft targets in a bid to keep NATO troops there....lots of money comes with the influx of foreign troops.

Before the US announced they were withdrawing (which prompted the other nations to follow suit), the Taliban were at the peace table. Once they found out their 'cash cow' was pulling out, they stepped up attacks...

I have (uninformed) people telling me they are sickened that NATO is pulling out and leaving those poor Afghan people at the mercy of the Taliban...I told them there was a time when NATO had almost 500,000 troops on the ground and were still unable to quell the Taliban so the 7500 NATO troops which are still there would almost be invisible...the precision air strikes will be missed I'm sure...
 
We take a look into Afghanistan and see the Taliban stepping up attacks on soft targets in a bid to keep NATO troops there....lots of money comes with the influx of foreign troops.

Before the US announced they were withdrawing (which prompted the other nations to follow suit), the Taliban were at the peace table. Once they found out their 'cash cow' was pulling out, they stepped up attacks...

I have (uninformed) people telling me they are sickened that NATO is pulling out and leaving those poor Afghan people at the mercy of the Taliban...I told them there was a time when NATO had almost 500,000 troops on the ground and were still unable to quell the Taliban so the 7500 NATO troops which are still there would almost be invisible...the precision air strikes will be missed I'm sure...
The Russians were in there for years, wasting money. They learnt the lesson that it was a mute cause much faster than we did though.

We can’t change tribalism and teach peoples with different cultures to respect life or our ways of living. Sometimes one has to let nature take its course.

Just about every time the US intervened in the Middle East, the results were disastrous.
 
The Russians were in there for years, wasting money. They learnt the lesson that it was a mute cause much faster than we did though.

We can’t change tribalism and teach peoples with different cultures to respect life or our ways of living. Sometimes one has to let nature take its course.

Just about every time the US intervened in the Middle East, the results were disastrous.
...Amen to that....
 
It took them about a month after they knew the money was coming in. This started on April 7. Israel sure does seem like a lot better choice for an ally.

Weird how jews went through so much during ww2 only to turn around and become the same thing as pretty much nazi's, occupying a country for religious reasons? How long till they open up concentration camps? It's obvious both sides can't get along but to support the Israelites is pretty much supporting any extremist religion. Watch Louis Theroux zionist documentary you'll see how crazy fanatical they are.
 
Weird how jews went through so much during ww2 only to turn around and become the same thing as pretty much nazi's, occupying a country for religious reasons? How long till they open up concentration camps? It's obvious both sides can't get along but to support the Israelites is pretty much supporting any extremist religion. Watch Louis Theroux zionist documentary you'll see how crazy fanatical they are.
I don't think I'd be referencing the plight of a beleaguered people at the hands of a fanatical regime such as the nazi party who murdered millions of people to the Israeli nation.

The war in the middle east has been waged ever since mankind has been around-long before organized religion and WW2.

Israel is a nation, not a religion, they have been plagued by the Hamas terrorist group for many decades. The biggest difference between them and other nations is the Hamas occupy a region close to their borders within Palestine...the PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) were and still are a well documented terror group.

What is going on in that region is more contained than what went on in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan all of which had NATO support and funding along with proxy support and funding by Iran, Russia and China...

Who do you think funds the Hamas and PLO?
 
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